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    Socialism is not the norm in the modern game. It is a notion conjured upo solely in Wengers mind, where it is quite okay to piss other peoples hard earned down the drain while delivering the bare minimum in return

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    Arsenal 2010/11 season: With Cesc, Nasri; 68 pts. Last season: With RVP, Song; 70 pts. This season, with this squad: 73 pts #OneArseneWenger

    Just saw this on twitter. Didn't realise we had improved each year with a worse squad the the year before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Socialism is not the norm in the modern game. It is a notion conjured upo solely in Wengers mind, where it is quite okay to piss other peoples hard earned down the drain while delivering the bare minimum in return
    What's socialism got to do with the wage bill, the state of the wage bill is quite the opposite of socialism it shows the worst excesses of capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    Just saw this on twitter. Didn't realise we had improved each year with a worse squad the the year before
    It's all relative though....the points total is largely determined by the other teams around you.....when there is only ten points between 8th and 17th and then a gap of 12 points between 7th and 8th it doesn't speak highly for the quality of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's all relative though....the points total is largely determined by the other teams around you.....when there is only ten points between 8th and 17th and then a gap of 12 points between 7th and 8th it doesn't speak highly for the quality of the league.

    It's not relative at all. He gets more points with worse squad each year. That's impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    It's not relative at all. He gets more points with worse squad each year. That's impressive
    It goes to show that we've been top heavy for too long and the defence has always been a problem area. We had to grind out a lot of 1 nil results and hang on by a goal advantage. In previous years we'd buckle during injury time and we'd have lost if we're not up by 2 or 3 goals.

    If it wasn't for the defence, we'd have been in serious trouble this year and after the Spurs debacle we needed to refocus and get the defence organised. It was neglected for far too long and the sort of mistakes we saw this year were common regardless of personnel. Impressive from Wenger but I also think he's working closely with Bould and their ironing things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    It's not relative at all. He gets more points with worse squad each year. That's impressive
    My point being is that if you look at the teams in the premier league this season far fewer of them have been able to get a big scalp than in previous seasons. If you look at the sides in the top 5, they would go to teams outside the top 7 expecting to get all three points and more often than not they did.
    We gained 10 away wins in the league, half of which came against in the last ten games most of which were teams in the lower half of the table....don't get me wrong i am not trying to belittle what Wenger has acheived with the average squad (without doubt the worst since he became manager) but these things need to be looked at in context.

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    A 5 point increase in 2 seasons is minimal improvement at best and we also finished a position lower this season. Taking into account our performance in other competitions over that time as well, I'm not sure I'd class anything we've done overall as an improvement.

    What it is, is pure stagnation. However it does show Wenget is very good at getting his squad to be at a certain level despite losing his key men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    It's not relative at all. He gets more points with worse squad each year. That's impressive
    A league table is by definition, relative.

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    I wonder if he's rated higher by opposition fans than he is by many Arsenal fans. If this place is anything to go by. Which is probably quite foolish.

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