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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    WHo starts in the fa cup final as striker then?

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    Is Sanogo's loan finished now? If so...
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    Pressurising Walcott through praise and expectation whilst contract talks are talking place. Wenger probably thrives on being called out on stuff, driving him to prove people wrong, he won't care about these comments if he acts otherwise. Remember, he has said similar before now about his position. I just can't see him picking Fio ahead of Bif for most games. Although, I think a key part of Walcott staying is going to be about being played as a striker. If he doesn't believe that will happen, he'll be off. To be fair he has a point too. The stat thrown up at the end of the game was he has scored the last three prem hat tricks for us. The boy can score goals, he is only so effective on the wings because he'll never be a guy that can beat a man with skill and composure.
    I'm sure Wenger thrives on proving people wrong.....we all do, but I think it is probably a stretch to suggest that he thrives on being openly and impudently questioned about what he does, so much so that he would contrive a way to encourage it.

    I am a Theo fan and grow tired at the revisionist attitude to doing him down many have taken to this season......However, he isn't going to walk into any top club worth being at and dictate playing through the middle. So it would be foolish for him to walk on that basis. He re signed last time because he got a better deal and came to agreement with the club and that was without forcing anyone's hand about playing through the middle.

    In pre season he was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'Can't wait till me and Sanchez can play together down the wings......Arsenal will be a force...blah blah blah'. I suspect he has made some peace with playing wide, even if it isn't his ideal situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I'm sure Wenger thrives on proving people wrong.....we all do, but I think it is probably a stretch to suggest that he thrives on being openly and impudently questioned about what he does, so much so that he would contrive a way to encourage it.

    I am a Theo fan and grow tired at the revisionist attitude to doing him down many have taken to this season......However, he isn't going to walk into any top club worth being at and dictate playing through the middle. So it would be foolish for him to walk on that basis. He re signed last time because he got a better deal and came to agreement with the club and that was without forcing anyone's hand about playing through the middle.

    In pre season he was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'Can't wait till me and Sanchez can play together down the wings......Arsenal will be a force...blah blah blah'. I suspect he has made some peace with playing wide, even if it isn't his ideal situation.
    Best way for Theo to guarantee a starting spot at centre is to make it impossible for the manager to do anything else. It's up to the player ultimately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I'm sure Wenger thrives on proving people wrong.....we all do, but I think it is probably a stretch to suggest that he thrives on being openly and impudently questioned about what he does, so much so that he would contrive a way to encourage it.

    I am a Theo fan and grow tired at the revisionist attitude to doing him down many have taken to this season......However, he isn't going to walk into any top club worth being at and dictate playing through the middle. So it would be foolish for him to walk on that basis. He re signed last time because he got a better deal and came to agreement with the club and that was without forcing anyone's hand about playing through the middle.

    In pre season he was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'Can't wait till me and Sanchez can play together down the wings......Arsenal will be a force...blah blah blah'. I suspect he has made some peace with playing wide, even if it isn't his ideal situation.
    I wouldn't say he'd contrive a situation just for that to happen but going by the last five years (or more) he is certainly happy to slap down his experience card over anyone who questions his worn out methods. Of course, we're all just a bunch of mongs carping on about the perfect scenario whilst he lives and breathes it everyday but he hasn't earned the WUMger tag without reason (it doesn't just exist on this forum).

    Theo would do best to stay here as you say, although I do think either of the Manc clubs would take him - and ironically probably play him wide too. In our team he can score from wide right but the problem is like nearly everyone else, he wants to come inside far too often and while that suits Wenger's idea of how football should be played, it's just another facet of our current style that prevents us from pushing on. Given the choice I'd rather keep him but I think he'll he off this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I'm sure Wenger thrives on proving people wrong.....we all do, but I think it is probably a stretch to suggest that he thrives on being openly and impudently questioned about what he does, so much so that he would contrive a way to encourage it.

    I am a Theo fan and grow tired at the revisionist attitude to doing him down many have taken to this season......However, he isn't going to walk into any top club worth being at and dictate playing through the middle. So it would be foolish for him to walk on that basis. He re signed last time because he got a better deal and came to agreement with the club and that was without forcing anyone's hand about playing through the middle.

    In pre season he was quoted as saying something along the lines of 'Can't wait till me and Sanchez can play together down the wings......Arsenal will be a force...blah blah blah'. I suspect he has made some peace with playing wide, even if it isn't his ideal situation.
    Stick around here a bit longer. By next season you'll get the same fans questioning Theo's worth to the team. Happens all the time when he's had a spell out. He needs to stay fit. Been saying for year's we should be playing him as striker so he can get used to the different challenges. On games like today, he's lethal and we haven't got a striker in the squad capable of putting relentless pressure on a defence like that.

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    Good time for Wilshere to finally get sharp. Gives us a chance to sell the talentless little shit to Man City. That's if he hasn't smoked his way there already. Hahahahahahahahahaahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Best way for Theo to guarantee a starting spot at centre is to make it impossible for the manager to do anything else. It's up to the player ultimately.
    I just don't reckon he will be able to. I still think it is too much to ask a player of his relative stature in the modern game these days. It is almost unprecedented at the top level.

    That is not to say that if he played as a striker an entire season he would not get 15-20 league goals though. I suspect that like today he would fill his boots with certain teams and really struggle with others. So the question comes, whether or not that is acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Stick around here a bit longer. By next season you'll get the same fans questioning Theo's worth to the team. Happens all the time when he's had a spell out. He needs to stay fit. Been saying for year's we should be playing him as striker so he can get used to the different challenges. On games like today, he's lethal and we haven't got a striker in the squad capable of putting relentless pressure on a defence like that.
    If we had started bif today. I can almost guarantee the result would have been the same as the last couple of home games, struggles to score, bif looming hapless and west Bromwich growing in confidence as the game goes on. Theo took his goals.realy well and his striker's instinct is still there after a year out


    I'd start him in the final.

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    I seriously don't understand how people's opinions about players can turn on a sixpence after one off good or poor performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I seriously don't understand how people's opinions about players can turn on a sixpence after one off good or poor performances.
    Because, unlike the manager, people understand form and momentum and how they affect the players and the results.
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