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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    Yeh, I'm sorry but for me it seems like we are happy to plod along in the league now to focus solely on the CL. That's inexcusable IMO based on where we should be at at this stage of the process. It's also not something I personally find acceptable, we should be able to manage some kind of show of strength in more than one competition.
    Which would all be a fairly reasonable view if we were still in with a shout of the title.
    But we aren't.
    Maybe you think we should be which is an opinion I can get on board with, given the last couple of seasons. But the injuries this season have really (and literally) hobbled us.
    And while I don't think there's any great anti-Arsenal conspiracy we have been completely fucked over by referees this season while Liverpool have been getting the rub of the green.
    How many penalties is it for them now? 9?
    Given the title was all but over before Feb was out and given we were still in the CL it was absolutely the right thing to prioritise the latter.
    If we'd completely fallen apart and fallen out of the top 4 (as some feared we might) then I'd find that acceptable, but we haven't.
    Let's just get this season over with now, it's been a slog. We have a big summer coming up, I think next season is Arteta's last chance to deliver a big trophy, unless we do somehow with the CL which seems unlikely but we should get to the semi-final and at that stage you have to believe we have some chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Which would all be a fairly reasonable view if we were still in with a shout of the title.
    And while I don't think there's any great anti-Arsenal conspiracy we have been completely fucked over by referees this season while Liverpool have been getting the rub of the green.
    How many penalties is it for them now? 9?
    Last season you had 10.

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    Letters post has me thinking.......

    If we are able to pull off winning the CL this season (50-50 for me) and next season we ended up with another sub standard performance in the league and probably not advancing past the initial knockout stages in the CL (QF at best), with no other domestic trophies either... would we all be happy to take our unlikely CL win and insist Arteta stays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Letters post has me thinking.......

    If we are able to pull off winning the CL this season (50-50 for me) and next season we ended up with another sub standard performance in the league and probably not advancing past the initial knockout stages in the CL (QF at best), with no other domestic trophies either... would we all be happy to take our unlikely CL win and insist Arteta stays?
    If we buy the attacking players we should get I don’t see any reason why we would have a poor season in the league, this season has clearly been defined by a lack of goals and I don’t see us as being deficient defensively.

    But would winning the champions league give him the good will, yes quite probably. I don’t expect major trophies every season. But at the same time I’d have cause to wonder what the fuck went wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    If we buy the attacking players we should get I don’t see any reason why we would have a poor season in the league, this season has clearly been defined by a lack of goals and I don’t see us as being deficient defensively.

    But would winning the champions league give him the good will, yes quite probably. I don’t expect major trophies every season. But at the same time I’d have cause to wonder what the fuck went wrong
    Probably agree....one shouldn't expect to win trophies every season.

    Though if it ended up being a Newcastle or Villa that wins the league next season my opinion would be drastically different on cutting him some slack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss View Post
    Last season you had 10.
    So?
    Ok, so maybe things went for us last season.
    They haven’t this year.
    What’s your point, caller? Even you have admitted you’ve had some things go for you this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Letters post has me thinking.......

    If we are able to pull off winning the CL this season (50-50 for me) and next season we ended up with another sub standard performance in the league and probably not advancing past the initial knockout stages in the CL (QF at best), with no other domestic trophies either... would we all be happy to take our unlikely CL win and insist Arteta stays?
    Of course the coach who delivers our first ever CL win would deserve every opportunity to get it right in the league. It wouldn’t just be a Di Matteo fluked win either, it would be a lot more meaningful given the work done to take us out of the gutter to this point now where we can talk about possibly achieving meaningful things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Of course the coach who delivers our first ever CL win would deserve every opportunity to get it right in the league. It wouldn’t just be a Di Matteo fluked win either, it would be a lot more meaningful given the work done to take us out of the gutter to this point now where we can talk about possibly achieving meaningful things.
    Well also, this wouldn't be a Ten Hag situation for 2 reasons. Firstly the CL is a much, much bigger prize than the FA Cup. Secondly as disappointing as our league season has been by the standards we have set for ourselves, we're still pretty likely to finish 2nd. Certainly Top 4. It's not the utter mess Ten Hag oversaw last season before they stumbled to the FA Cup. And even then remember they let a 3-0 lead vs Coventry slip and were a VAR call away from exit and humiliation.


    All this said, this is all supposing we win the CL which I am still finding it hard to believe we will. Which will render this a disappointing and frustrating season. Next season feels like last chance saloon for Arteta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I’m not sure that they’d have felt that way if we had played the kids and lost by several goals….plus that’s the kind of thing that can get you heavily fined by the FA or the premier league.
    Oh cut the faux sensibility will you, we all know what someone means when they say play the kids, I don't literally mean play the under-18s (or not all of them anyway ) and I've already said my main issue is his playing Martinelli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Which would all be a fairly reasonable view if we were still in with a shout of the title.
    But we aren't.
    Maybe you think we should be which is an opinion I can get on board with, given the last couple of seasons. But the injuries this season have really (and literally) hobbled us.
    And while I don't think there's any great anti-Arsenal conspiracy we have been completely fucked over by referees this season while Liverpool have been getting the rub of the green.
    How many penalties is it for them now? 9?
    Given the title was all but over before Feb was out and given we were still in the CL it was absolutely the right thing to prioritise the latter.
    If we'd completely fallen apart and fallen out of the top 4 (as some feared we might) then I'd find that acceptable, but we haven't.
    Let's just get this season over with now, it's been a slog. We have a big summer coming up, I think next season is Arteta's last chance to deliver a big trophy, unless we do somehow with the CL which seems unlikely but we should get to the semi-final and at that stage you have to believe we have some chance.

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