Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

[fakeyank]

I think shooting outside the box is largely an exercise in wasteful shooting, don't get me wrong we carry it to ridiculous proportions with people not shooting even when they are in the box but the vast majority of goals scored in football are inside the box and it's about trying to work your way in behind the defence rather or pressing and attacking at pace rather than pissing about in their third and trying to thread an eye of the needle pass through the centre.

Do I think players should never shoot from distance?. No that would be ridiculous, football is still entertainment and fans love to see screamers and its worthwhile working on placement and power in training but it certainly has to be very much regarded a secondary route to goal.

Direct goals from long range shots may not always be the 'end goal'. A long range shot may result in a corner or a hand ball or a deflection from the keep into the path of the striker. It should be a secondary route, but that should change based on how a game is going. If we are finding it difficult to penetrate an opposition teams defense, start taking shots from distance.. have a plan B and may be even a plan C!

[Power n Glory]

The answer to why we're so predictable and teams can just camp inside their own box.

NQ - we had this discussion before with Ozil and you might be right. Even though Wenger has challenged him to score more goals, how has he told Ozil to go about it?

Maybe this is advice just for Elmo but it's crazy considering the banger he scored against Barca. Let him develop that weapon.

[rodders]

We always prefer to pass rather than shoot!!!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Direct goals from long range shots may not always be the 'end goal'. A long range shot may result in a corner or a hand ball or a deflection from the keep into the path of the striker. It should be a secondary route, but that should change based on how a game is going. If we are finding it difficult to penetrate an opposition teams defense, start taking shots from distance.. have a plan B and may be even a plan C!

Isn't referring to it as a secondary option the same as calling it a Plan B or C, I can't help but think we are quibbling over terms.

I think it's about getting players to use the correct judgement rather than being obsessed over style of play, if a tangible pass is not on than shooting from distance is an option to consider rather than haphazardly trying a pass that leads to ceding posession at least with shooting the worst that will happen is that you concede a goal kick.

The most efficient route to scoring a goal is from inside the box, but yes I agree it's not the only route.

And Elnenys comments are very telling.

[Power n Glory]

Isn't referring to it as a secondary option the same as calling it a Plan B or C, I can't help but think we are quibbling over terms.

I think it's about getting players to use the correct judgement rather than being obsessed over style of play, if a tangible pass is not on than shooting from distance is an option to consider rather than haphazardly trying a pass that leads to ceding posession at least with shooting the worst that will happen is that you concede a goal kick.

The most efficient route to scoring a goal is from inside the box, but yes I agree it's not the only route.

And Elnenys comments are very telling.

Would you say players are judging it well? We've hardly scored from outside the box this season and we've struggled against teams that defend deep and in numbers. We've heard Wenger bemoan teams that set themselves up to park the bus, more recently with that Geoff interview in fact, but it doesn't look like he wants to try anything new. The emphasis is still on patients and passing even though it hasn't worked in years against certain set ups.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I'm trawling through this because i'm marking time until my working day is done

No i don't think our players used their judgement well at all, either they have poor judgement or they are sticking to a rigidly implemented system

If players at Arsenal can't decide for themselves when to shoot and when to pass, they don't belong at the club.

[Nayan]

I like Arsene wenger but his influence has waned and after two decades he is more problem than solution.

Mourinho, Ferguson at their peak would've done titles with the squads weve had. And our teams always bottle it when the pressure is really on the to move into contention. he is great at doing just enough to sneak into s champions league he will never win.

no we will never wi the league under wenger.

I still have my season ticket and didn't go to a single game this season.

[Kano]

Nayan is back from the dead.

[Nayan]

hello

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Yes. Cole's exit was a catalyst as was Wengers complacency... And just when we're closing in again...Fabregas led an exodus with himself, Nasri, vp, song,... if we can keep this group fit and together and add a world class forward and CB we have a chance for sure.