Clichy has left. And Nasri in talks with Citeh.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't really disagree with that and I'm not blaming City for anything.
Just saying their success will be tainted by the way it was achieved. Their idiot fans probably won't care, our stupider fans wouldn't care if it happened to us. But the more discerning would surely see the difference.

If I didn't have this enduring image of a bunch of despicable shits quaffing champagne in our boardroom and celebrating the rise in their fortunes as ours and the team's plunge down the shitter then I might agree. But I'd rather we get laughed at by all for buying success than see those fuckers in the boardroom make a penny more. Frankly I'm not really thinking about football any more, I just want the board to die, tbh.

[cricketsi]

Do we have any players left now that have ever won anything at Arsenal? Anyone at all?

I know it was probably rhetorical, but Cesc and RvP both played in 2005 FA Cup final (Clichy didn't, btw, and Almunia was on the bench)

[Kano]

You seriously think a club with limitless resources should be commended for spending their way to success?

clichy doesn't think so

'I really believe if you are a player who thinks only about money then you could end up at Manchester City,' The French full-back told The Sun.

[Niall_Quinn]

Footballers really are stupid.

And people advocating City's method of obtaining success have given themselves up as glory hunters. If all you're bothered about is how Arsenal's glory/non-glory refelects upon you, then why even bother following a team? Instant, manufactured success is not sport. And if that's what you want, then the next Football Manager or FIFA games would be recommended.

I bet it would be hard to find any established poster on here that has advocated massive expenditure in an attempt to buy the league. You'll find a lot of posters who are sick to death of Wenger's penny pinching though, his refusal to spend just a fraction of what our rivals spend to shore up the team and give us that little bit extra we've lacked for so many years. On occasions the margin has been as slim as £2mill and Wenger wouldn't spend it.

It's a bit of a tiresome argument coming out of Arsenal and from some of the Wenger faithful. Those who complain about lacking the ambition to do more than secure a CL spot are accused of pretending the club has been relegated. Those that want to spend a few quid buying a desperately needed GK or CB are accused of wanting to be Man City. Silly really and shows how weak the Wenger argument is and how shallow the apologies some offer up for his failure.

[Niall_Quinn]

I know it was probably rhetorical, but Cesc and RvP both played in 2005 FA Cup final (Clichy didn't, btw, and Almunia was on the bench)

So just RvP then?

[Power n Glory]

Footballers really are stupid.

And people advocating City's method of obtaining success have given themselves up as glory hunters. If all you're bothered about is how Arsenal's glory/non-glory refelects upon you, then why even bother following a team? Instant, manufactured success is not sport. And if that's what you want, then the next Football Manager or FIFA games would be recommended.

You still have to play to win something. Real Madrid spent millions on their current team and they haven't won the league or champs league yet. Years back they spent silly money on that Galatico team and they couldn't win anything with them until the team was broken up. It's not as simple as buying success.

[Letters]

It's a bit of a tiresome argument coming out of Arsenal and from some of the Wenger faithful. Those who complain about lacking the ambition to do more than secure a CL spot are accused of pretending the club has been relegated. Those that want to spend a few quid buying a desperately needed GK or CB are accused of wanting to be Man City.

None of that is true.
EVERYONE thinks Wenger should have spent more and his stubborn refusal to do so has stopped us winning trophies.
But some of the moaning on here. I've seen people say "it can't get worse". Do me a favour.
I've seen people write about Wenger as if he's a bumbling idiot. Clearly not true. His stubborness is maddening but you don't keep a team in the top 4 without having some nous.

[Xhaka Can’t]

What's more, now there's a gap in the team Wenger had better move fucking fast to fill it (as in tomorrow considering he must have known Clichy was going) or else the zero-ambition message to the other players increases in volume.

It would be utter madness to act like this during the waiting period.

[Letters]

You still have to play to win something. Real Madrid spent millions on their current team and they haven't won the league or champs league yet. Years back they spent silly money on that Galatico team and they couldn't win anything with them until the team was broken up. It's not as simple as buying success.

Would Chelsea have done what they've done without all the money?
Would City be in the top 4 without it?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Don't think money was the issue here, lack of belief in the idealistic policy and lack of success were probably more relevant.

Wenger thinks he can keep the better players by getting 4th place every season.

Well it does, i mean we can offers for alot of top players truth be told but we will always be stuck on the wages we can give them. Hence why we will miss out.

we can't afford to offer clichy what city are given him can we.

Until we pay off the stadium we are never getting world class stars end off. We have to accpet were not a big club anymore and the best we can hope for is 4th sadly