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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    The thing is though, if you look at his transfers over last few windows, thats exactly what he has done. Cech, Ozil, Sanchez are genuine world class players. Gabriel so far has looked a very good player (perhaps its time he replaces Per in the line up for good but thats another debate). Ospina is a good back up, i like the look of Chambers but admit he's raw but as fourth choice its fine. Debuchy again is good back up. I don't think Schneiderlin is better then Coqulein and at 25 million, not sure its worth it, Wanayama isn't the best so again its signing for the sake of it even as back up. Vidal would replace Ramsey and that wouldn't happen, no point benching Ramsey and vidal wouldn't come unless first choice.

    Wenger in his mind has over the last 3 years developed a squad that he thinks is good enough to challenge/win, although he tried for a world class striker, but that failed. Its a lot easier to take a punt on a squad with players like Ozil, Sanchez, Cech in it then ones with Song, Denilson, Bendtner.
    Fair points but we have a lot of catching up to do after many lean years. This summer was not the time to pause, it was the time to build on what your rightly point out as a more positive and developing trend. Just two more players and I believe we would have had a serious chance at this title and maybe even a run in Europe. A whole summer to plug one of those holes. This is a major fuck up which can only be put right if somehow he manages to drag 12 more points out of the same squad that couldn't compete last year - bar a keeper who may save a few points for us but won't be up the other end scoring.

    Why Wenger does this to himself is anybody's guess. After a slow start every setback will be jumped on as further evidence of how he's screwed this window. Giroud is under immense pressure now and he doesn't seem the sort to handle pressure very well. It's fingers crossed that Coquelin can stay fit and ban free. And £200mill sitting in the bank. It makes zero sense. We can all try to figure out why Wenger has chose to do this, but the fact remains he didn't have to because there was a much better alternative available to him for months.
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    And another thing to consider which Wenger really ought to get a whole lot more stick for. If Coquelin hadn't fortunately fallen in his lap we'd be stuck with an ageing Arteta and past it Flamini. It's pure fortune Coquelin is here at all, Wenger didn't see it. So it makes you winder if he is even qualified to judge the top, top, top quality that has breezed past him this transfer window. You would have thought he'd build on that fortunate turn of events and reinforce his good luck with some cover for Coquelin. But not Wenger. Arteta and Flamini will do, players who can not shift a kid Wenger was all set to get rid of until he proved the manager 100% wrong.

    Wenger is wrong again by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Ah. Fair enough. Not convinced Henry would make a good coach in any case, for the reasons I outlined. if he's got a bit more to his insight that he's hiding from the sky cameras then fine. He comes across as a thick twat on there though. Would sooner listen to Neville.
    Youve got to be thick to say he comes across as thick.

    Hes just not an analytical thinker regarding football, like most flair players across the sports. His grasp of English is better than most Brits in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    And another thing to consider which Wenger really ought to get a whole lot more stick for. If Coquelin hadn't fortunately fallen in his lap we'd be stuck with an ageing Arteta and past it Flamini. It's pure fortune Coquelin is here at all, Wenger didn't see it. So it makes you winder if he is even qualified to judge the top, top, top quality that has breezed past him this transfer window. You would have thought he'd build on that fortunate turn of events and reinforce his good luck with some cover for Coquelin. But not Wenger. Arteta and Flamini will do, players who can not shift a kid Wenger was all set to get rid of until he proved the manager 100% wrong.

    Wenger is wrong again by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Youve got to be thick to say he comes across as thick.

    Hes just not an analytical thinker regarding football, like most flair players across the sports. His grasp of English is better than most Brits in the game.
    I think Thierry would be alright. Simple little tricks and tips will go long way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I think Thierry would be alright. Simple little tricks and tips will go long way.

    Who better to school a youngster on strike play. Bergkamp? That guy could barely score half a dozen goals in a season ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Top players don't necessarily make good coaches. Many examples but take Tony Adams. Henry seems like bit of an idiot, unfortunately. Talks a ridiculous amount of shit. Understandable, it came very naturally to him but he's not going to be someone who can teach limited players like Welbz to get to their best.

    If we're going ex-players, the one who usually talks intelligently about the game is Keown. Important to have some extra perspective that the Sky clowns don't have and he is a lot more insightful. Would like to see him take on management/coaching elsewhere first.
    Talking 'intelligently' about the game doesnt mean shit btw. Alex Ferguson could barely string two words together.

    Nobodys trying to listen to damn Keown. Even Senderous turned his nose up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    The thing is though, if you look at his transfers over last few windows, thats exactly what he has done. Cech, Ozil, Sanchez are genuine world class players. Gabriel so far has looked a very good player (perhaps its time he replaces Per in the line up for good but thats another debate). Ospina is a good back up, i like the look of Chambers but admit he's raw but as fourth choice its fine. Debuchy again is good back up. I don't think Schneiderlin is better then Coqulein and at 25 million, not sure its worth it, Wanayama isn't the best so again its signing for the sake of it even as back up. Vidal would replace Ramsey and that wouldn't happen, no point benching Ramsey and vidal wouldn't come unless first choice.

    Wenger in his mind has over the last 3 years developed a squad that he thinks is good enough to challenge/win, although he tried for a world class striker, but that failed. Its a lot easier to take a punt on a squad with players like Ozil, Sanchez, Cech in it then ones with Song, Denilson, Bendtner.
    Whilst I accept that Wenger has bought fairly well over the past few years he still has a tendency in the market to be the "kid in the candy store" picking up what he likes and not what the team actually needs. Seriously, was Ozil really needed? He's a good player, he adds quality to our team but not star quality. We all know what we needed that summer and we managed to completely screw up.

    Wenger has had 2 Summer Windows to buy a striker and he has failed, it would be a sackable offence at any other big club in Europe, they absolutely wouldn't put up with it.

    Wenger has clearly improved the squad, that isn't up for debate, what is up for debate is that he is mismanaging windows and leaving gaping holes in the squad. He has a stack of money to sort out these issues out. It's gross negligence.

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    Arsenal needed two players : A quality striker and a defensive midfielder as a cover in case Coquelin is not available .

    1) Striker : we need a top quality striker . An upgrade of what we always have and not just a striker . Two only were " in the market "
    Karim Benzema and Edison Cavani .

    Real Madrid made it clear they were not going to sell and they meant it . Why would they have sold in the first place ? They are the best club in the world and still need their player . Wenger made a bid and failed . Is that his fault ? Wenger wins here .
    PSG asked for 50M + with a huge wages for a player turning 29 very soon . Is there any guarantee he would have hit the ground running straight away ? I am not really sure .But he would have needed time to adjust and by that time he would have been 30 or 31 near the end of his career and investing 50 M here wouldn't have been wise .Wenger wins again .
    2) Defensive midfield : we have Francis Coquelin as our rising star . He is doing his job superbly .Would it have been wise to stop his " momentum" with another player ? No really . we have two experienced cover in Arteta and Flamini who have had a limited game time because of Coquelin . Are we thinking in case of suspension or injury to the Coq ? Why would we be so negative about our own player ? Wenger wins again here .
    I wish we had bought one or two top players if they were available but I understand why Wenger did not buy anyone on this occasion . The next thing would be for the whole team to step up and work twice as harder . Buying new players or not , only hard work will pay off .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    And another thing to consider which Wenger really ought to get a whole lot more stick for. If Coquelin hadn't fortunately fallen in his lap we'd be stuck with an ageing Arteta and past it Flamini. It's pure fortune Coquelin is here at all, Wenger didn't see it. So it makes you winder if he is even qualified to judge the top, top, top quality that has breezed past him this transfer window. You would have thought he'd build on that fortunate turn of events and reinforce his good luck with some cover for Coquelin. But not Wenger. Arteta and Flamini will do, players who can not shift a kid Wenger was all set to get rid of until he proved the manager 100% wrong.

    Wenger is wrong again by the way.
    The thing is though, there is always an element of luck in football. It looks like now that Bellerin is first choice right back, clearly Wenger knew he had talent, but it took for Debuchy to suffer a long term injury in January for him to get a long run in the team. You always get an element of luck when players are injured and suddenly others take their chance. I dont think there is any doubt that luck was with Coquelin but he took his chance and has earned his place. However, if he had failed, I think we would have signed Schnderlein, given previous interest.

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