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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander View Post
    I do like the way he bangs on about price/quality/stability in the media. The media dont give a shit, the media are a massive hype machine, they want BIG NAMES! BIG MONEY! BIG SUCCESS! MASSIVE FAILURES! its what they thrive on. They dont thrive on stories of old man spends a tiny amount on an unknown player.
    Wenger is still banging his own drum but less and less people are listening or care, they are just moving along in the (now mental) world of football, doing what everyone else is doing to try and compete.
    Not sure if you are complimenting or condemning Wenger. I see his as Icarus, banging on at British Airways about their unnecessary expenditure. Just before he does his latest cliff jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Not sure if you are complimenting or condemning Wenger. I see his as Icarus, banging on at British Airways about their unnecessary expenditure. Just before he does his latest cliff jump.
    Sorry, condemning him. He is a record stuck on repeat, that nobody is listening too anymore.

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    The thing is you have to look at it in its timing, we are probably not going to sign a striker and Wenger appears to be baulking over a fee for Mustafi. So it's a ready made excuse, I've not strengthened the squad but look at this ridiculous money here, there and everywhere.
    The Pogba reference a few weeks earlier is oft misquoted as he said it's a crazy fee unless you can afford it, which was just a general reflection on how the money in football makes the crazy seem reasonable.
    Today it's a "I haven't fucked up I'm just a victim of circumstance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The thing is you have to look at it in its timing, we are probably not going to sign a striker and Wenger appears to be baulking over a fee for Mustafi. So it's a ready made excuse, I've not strengthened the squad but look at this ridiculous money here, there and everywhere.
    The Pogba reference a few weeks earlier is oft misquoted as he said it's a crazy fee unless you can afford it, which was just a general reflection on how the money in football makes the crazy seem reasonable.
    Today it's a "I haven't fucked up I'm just a victim of circumstance"
    Alexander is right. The man's talking to himself now. I just laugh when he opens his mouth. It used to be upsetting that he's made a laughing stock of the club but it has gone on for so long now that even that's unremarkable. The only thing of value that Wenger could say is goodbye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Alexander is right. The man's talking to himself now. I just laugh when he opens his mouth. It used to be upsetting that he's made a laughing stock of the club but it has gone on for so long now that even that's unremarkable. The only thing of value that Wenger could say is goodbye.
    Let's be fair, what difference does it actually make if Wenger is manager or not. This idea that any manager will any kind of ambition would want to come here. Wenger is detached from reality, he is in his own little bubble where he makes the rules and answers to no one. No one is going to want to assume the responsibilities Wenger assumes because he is too hubristic to realise he can't, and the board aren't going to want to assume any extra footballing responsibility themselves because they don't care about football.
    The difference between Wenger and a new manager, is that Wenger chooses not to spend money so no one has to tell him he can't.

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    Continuously not buying players in positions you need them is tantamount to saying 'we don't have the money to compete for the obvious top players of class....and we don't have the scouting nous or expertise to sign the un-obvious players of top quality'.

    I want a manager who can.

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    LeClown at it again, seriously this guy needs his head read, moreover why don't Arsenal tell him to shut the f*ck up?

    “If you want to make everybody happy, then just buy 20 new players and everybody is full of hope until the first game starts and then we’re back to reality,” Wenger says coolly

    He resists the idea that new personnel are needed for the sake of shaking things up and bringing a freshness to a squad. “Vibrancy doesn’t make you win games,” he says. “What makes you win games is the quality of the performance and the quality of your football. You have to focus just on that. It is very difficult in the modern game. There is always demand for new – but new is just new. After six months it’s not new anymore. If every time you don’t win you throw everything out, it is not the best way to win.”

    Easily-found guaranteed brilliance doesn’t fall off trees, so he is pinning his hopes on the players he knows growing and finding more to give. “You come in and you feel you can improve as a player, you feel you can win things together, you can share things with people who live inside the club,” he says. “What is new makes news. But apart from that it makes noise. But the noise is not necessarily always quality.”
    You can only hope this guy gets what's coming to him and is embarassed and made to look like the delusional man he is, sure it won't be great for us this season, but does it really matter when we know we won't compete.

    Interest in our season is certainly lacking, thanks to his lack of ability as a manager. He's talked about stability recently, but all that does it protect his position of course, he wants stability as the guy doesn't want to be out on his ear as he should be, time and time again he fails and time and time again he fails to acknowledge the problems.

    If Mustafi doesn't happen incidentally, we're being linked with that Barca reject who is 32 and can't defend, definitely a Wenger type signing so wouldn't surprise me.
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    Giroud's been our main striker for four years. 'New is just new for 6 months'

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    I understand his sentiment but no one, absolutely no one is telling him to buy for the sake of it. That's what he never has and never will understand.

    Someone needs to cart him off to the loony bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I understand his sentiment but no one, absolutely no one is telling him to buy for the sake of it. That's what he never has and never will understand.

    Someone needs to cart him off to the loony bin.
    yes they are, that's exactly what we are all doing, by asking him to identify key areas in the squad that need strengthening and spend the money the market demands for those players rather than imposing his own ideas of what a player is worth we are telling him to buy for the sake of it.

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