Going by what you said above regarding Kante/Le Coq, I'm not sure what the point would be.Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Going by what you said above regarding Kante/Le Coq, I'm not sure what the point would be.
Doesn't really matter who WUMger signs because he'll set up the same way regardless of the talent at his disposal. It's pot luck as to who flourishes in the system and who doesn't.
Even if next season is his last I don't really expect much change in his approach and how aggressive he is in the transfer market. I'd have a cheeky tenner on Giroud leading the line in August.
He said it all in the article about Kroenke being ready to splash the cash.
"We want to attract players that want to play the way we play, and have the qualities to do so"
Something along those lines anyway. He has no intention of ever changing anything and we will carry on the same way regardless of who we have here.
Fuckin Messi would be shit under Wenger too.
The question you have to ask is whether it is better to improve the current system by getting better players or try to improve by getting players who are better but play in a different system?
Put another way, in my opinion, do you want to try and improve the current system that has brought such success or risk everything by rejecting the current system and trying something new? Yes, he former choice has not yielded the results you require over the last few years. However, there is no guarantee that the latter choice will result in anything except mid-table mediocrity or worse.
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Success? I think we are a million miles from success in sporting terms. Nowhere near. We are like a safe investment fund, it will yield unspectacular but solid results and you'll be able to retire old and decrepit. Financially a tiny minority involved with the club are successful, thanks to the money being hoovered out of the fans' and sponsors' pockets. In terms of sport though, we have no success. You can't call Mike Tyson beating up a kid a success and you certainly can't call the shit we are shovelling any form of success because we got wasted by the kid, the kid punched our lights out to the tune of 10 points. Success?
Wenger needs to go. That's the only way because he'll never admit he's been wrong for a decade and he'll never change a damn thing. For as long as he's steering the ship onto rocks season after season it really doesn't matter what players are out there provided a minimum standard is maintained and we all know Wenger excels when it comes to delivering the bare minimum. He'll do the same in the transfer window this summer. Absolute bare minimum he can get away with.
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The problem is how to truly define success. If success is only measured by winning trophies every year, then Arsenal are not there yet. If success is being better than the huge majority of other clubs, I would posit that Arsenal are successful. Are they as successful as they should be? As a fan, the answer is definitely no.
What I was trying say was that abandoning the style and direction that the club has established over the last decade for another style and direction is very risky; if not, a recipe for disaster. I believe that the platform for an even more successful decade or more has been established. The critical questions that need to be answered are (1) whether Wenger is the right person to make that next step (I do not think so); (2) who is the right manager to take over for the next step; and (3) whether that manager will be the right person to maintain the improved success after the step up?
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As soon as you change the manager, the style will change. No doubt, No one else in world football is stupid enough to coach his players not to shoot. If Wenger was a boxing coach he would have a policy of no heavy punches. Better to put on a great show and jab the opponent into submission.
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Success is the whole club firing in tune to deliver 100% effort in the pursuit of a sporting goal. We don't do any of that. I would rate our level of success on a scale of 1 to 10 as zero. Not every club can win a trophy, so what else can you be in the sport for? The entertainment and enjoyment and pursuit of excellence I'd say. Money is what most of those creaming it from the game would say. Success for me is defined by an Arsenal counter-attack with Henry, Freddie and Bobby pelting up the pitch and Bergkamp picking the pass that ices the entire defence. You watch that and you know what football is supposed to be about. When you achieve that then you have succeeded.
Look at our game today. We are a million miles away from football success. A terrifically successful business though, but I don't give a shit about that as somebody who enjoys football.
I know what you were saying. But the horrible reality is it just doesn't matter. Wenger is staying here until he's good and ready to leave. So talk of change (of any sort) is theoretical at best, a sick tease the rest of the time. But in hypothetical land where football clubs like Arsenal give a shit about the football, Koeman would do for me. Simeone would be ideal. I think both could do a job with Arsenal's resources. Bilic would be fine, I think he's going to be a top manager. Almost anyone really, we are so desperately in need of a change. Even if we go backwards it will be positive, like a car getting unstuck from the mud. I Agree, it's all there if the right man can be brought in to use it.
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You are right. With Wenger in charge there really is no point. We will just have to wait him out.
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Any one of those three would be good, although I am still uncertain about Simeone. I would add De Boer to that list; the benefit would be that Bergkamp might be part of the package. However, I do not believe that anyone would do. Mind you, it might be necessary to have a sacrificial lamb for a couple of seasons.
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