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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    6 times, actually.
    Pfft, I bet LOADS of managers have won it 6 times.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Enjoy the scone but reconsider who is doing the patronising. If you don't appreciate that one then maybe this will help you understand plus it has the bonus of being genuinely patronising.

    Letters needs to get from his house (point A) to his job (point B) every morning. It's a long drawn out journey so he takes the bus.

    On day #1 the bus turns up, the drivers smiles and he conveys Letters from A to B in double quick time.
    Same thing happens on day #2
    Same thing happens on day #3 and for the whole week the journey keeps getting faster and faster. Excellent service. Well worth the money.

    Next week comes along, Letters takes the bus as usual, driver smiles, puts his foot down and off we go. However, over the weekend roadworks have been set up, there's a hole in the middle of the road. So a small diversion is in place.

    Problem is, the bus driver ignores the diversion and continues up the road past all the warning signs. Straight into the hole. Everyone survives and a few passengers grumble about the shitty bus driver who can't follow simple warnings. Letters writes it off as a lapse in concentration. After all, this driver did the business the week before.

    Day #2 of the new week dawns. Letters hops on the bus, same driver (a bit patched up but still with a cheery disposition), off we go.

    The fucker ignores the signs and drives the bus into the hole. WTF? Everyone survives and more of the passengers have a grumble - what is WRONG with this arsehole? Just follow the bloody sign! A few decide they will walk.

    Day #3, on the bus, ignore the sign, bang. In the fucking hole.

    Day #4, in the hole, Day #5 in the hole. By day #6 Letters finds he's the only passenger remaining. The driver is in casts and bandages, hardly recognisable but still smiling and chatting as if nothing has happened. But still, bang, in the fucking hole.

    Letters asks the driver, what's up with that fucking hole? The driver replies, I am the bus driver - how many buses have you driven? He also notifies Letters the fares are being doubled from tomorrow.

    Day #7 dawns.

    Now then, what does Letters do?

    Does he:

    A: Get on the bus and wait until the end of the journey to judge things?
    B: Ring the bus company and ask for a better driver?

    Yes of course, he gets on the bus. Can anyone predict what happens next?
    OMFG NQ , you didn't have to take it there ....the bloke had only gone to have his scone
    'WHEN HE HAS A PLAN, WE BACK HIM, WHEN HE DOESN'T......WE KEEP QUIET'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Enjoy the scone but reconsider who is doing the patronising. If you don't appreciate that one then maybe this will help you understand plus it has the bonus of being genuinely patronising.

    Letters needs to get from his house (point A) to his job (point B) every morning. It's a long drawn out journey so he takes the bus.

    On day #1 the bus turns up, the drivers smiles and he conveys Letters from A to B in double quick time.
    Same thing happens on day #2
    Same thing happens on day #3 and for the whole week the journey keeps getting faster and faster. Excellent service. Well worth the money.

    Next week comes along, Letters takes the bus as usual, driver smiles, puts his foot down and off we go. However, over the weekend roadworks have been set up, there's a hole in the middle of the road. So a small diversion is in place.

    Problem is, the bus driver ignores the diversion and continues up the road past all the warning signs. Straight into the hole. Everyone survives and a few passengers grumble about the shitty bus driver who can't follow simple warnings. Letters writes it off as a lapse in concentration. After all, this driver did the business the week before.

    Day #2 of the new week dawns. Letters hops on the bus, same driver (a bit patched up but still with a cheery disposition), off we go.

    The fucker ignores the signs and drives the bus into the hole. WTF? Everyone survives and more of the passengers have a grumble - what is WRONG with this arsehole? Just follow the bloody sign! A few decide they will walk.

    Day #3, on the bus, ignore the sign, bang. In the fucking hole.

    Day #4, in the hole, Day #5 in the hole. By day #6 Letters finds he's the only passenger remaining. The driver is in casts and bandages, hardly recognisable but still smiling and chatting as if nothing has happened. But still, bang, in the fucking hole.

    Letters asks the driver, what's up with that fucking hole? The driver replies, I am the bus driver - how many buses have you driven? He also notifies Letters the fares are being doubled from tomorrow.

    Day #7 dawns.

    Now then, what does Letters do?

    Does he:

    A: Get on the bus and wait until the end of the journey to judge things?
    B: Ring the bus company and ask for a better driver?

    Yes of course, he gets on the bus. Can anyone predict what happens next?
    The driver doesn't have change of a tenner so Letters has to walk?

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    Letters drives now anyway.

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    Not very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Not very well.
    With handbreak on?
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Little bit

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    Without reading through the whole thread the question I'd ask....is, if your recruitment process is effective and you have a worthy successor, why do you want rid of him in 3 years time?

    Like players, managers come and go, but unlike players it is not unreasonable for them to take 3 or even 4 years to properly settle or get their role depending on the situation they are coming in to...

    ...by which point you're then looking to show them the door as they are just getting it and the cycle continues and a part of what has just been built becomes obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Enjoy the scone but reconsider who is doing the patronising. If you don't appreciate that one then maybe this will help you understand plus it has the bonus of being genuinely patronising.

    Letters needs to get from his house (point A) to his job (point B) every morning. It's a long drawn out journey so he takes the bus.

    On day #1 the bus turns up, the drivers smiles and he conveys Letters from A to B in double quick time.
    Same thing happens on day #2
    Same thing happens on day #3 and for the whole week the journey keeps getting faster and faster. Excellent service. Well worth the money.

    Next week comes along, Letters takes the bus as usual, driver smiles, puts his foot down and off we go. However, over the weekend roadworks have been set up, there's a hole in the middle of the road. So a small diversion is in place.

    Problem is, the bus driver ignores the diversion and continues up the road past all the warning signs. Straight into the hole. Everyone survives and a few passengers grumble about the shitty bus driver who can't follow simple warnings. Letters writes it off as a lapse in concentration. After all, this driver did the business the week before.

    Day #2 of the new week dawns. Letters hops on the bus, same driver (a bit patched up but still with a cheery disposition), off we go.

    The fucker ignores the signs and drives the bus into the hole. WTF? Everyone survives and more of the passengers have a grumble - what is WRONG with this arsehole? Just follow the bloody sign! A few decide they will walk.

    Day #3, on the bus, ignore the sign, bang. In the fucking hole.

    Day #4, in the hole, Day #5 in the hole. By day #6 Letters finds he's the only passenger remaining. The driver is in casts and bandages, hardly recognisable but still smiling and chatting as if nothing has happened. But still, bang, in the fucking hole.

    Letters asks the driver, what's up with that fucking hole? The driver replies, I am the bus driver - how many buses have you driven? He also notifies Letters the fares are being doubled from tomorrow.

    Day #7 dawns.

    Now then, what does Letters do?

    Does he:

    A: Get on the bus and wait until the end of the journey to judge things?
    B: Ring the bus company and ask for a better driver?

    Yes of course, he gets on the bus. Can anyone predict what happens next?
    Gold!

    We need this one stickied, best post of the year.

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    The analogy doesn't stack up of course, but for comedy value I'd agree.

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