Wenger won't change philosophy

[Master Splinter]

i was joking you big tart dont wet yourself ffs

[GP]

Where did he say that? End of last season he was very clear that defence was a problem.
Whether he'll actually DO a anything about it this summer remains to be seen and I'm skeptical (it's not the first time he's cited it as a problem and failed to address it) but I wouldn't expect him to suddenly change our set up to be defensive nor would I want him to.

Good post

[Cripps_orig]

Where did he say that? End of last season he was very clear that defence was a problem.
Whether he'll actually DO a anything about it this summer remains to be seen and I'm skeptical (it's not the first time he's cited it as a problem and failed to address it) but I wouldn't expect him to suddenly change our set up to be defensive nor would I want him to.

This set up is shit defensively and lets be honest here, its pretty shit offensively as well. How many times over the last few seasons have we lacked killer instinct in games we should win piss easily?

Change is needed from top to bottom, from board level to players, formations and tactics.

What we are doing now has failed and badly.

[Letters]

He's always been more interested in attack than defence, thing is once upon a time he had quality at the back that could organise itself, in recent years he's bought cheap and never found any organisers/leaders.

Agreed. Although we were a little unlucky that Vermy was injured all last season because he is the one player in our defence who I think might just be able to organise them.

I'm amazed you don't want him to change the setup though,

I don't want him to radically change our attacking philosophy. I don't want to go back to 1-0 to the Arsenal. You may think our football now is dull, it is at times but it's still far better than some of the stuff we used to play when I started going to Arsenal. My dad was very close to giving up our season tickets one year it was so dull.
What I do want is for him to get them organised so we stop conceding stupid goals from set pieces and long, straight balls all the time. I don't think we need to radically change our style or buy a complete new defence to achieve that.

you must be happy with giving away 4 goal leads and never looking safer even when 2-3 goals ahead.

That's far too stupid to respond to, so I won't.

You'll never win a thing without a decent defence.

Agreed.

[Letters]

This set up is shit defensively and lets be honest here, its pretty shit offensively as well.

Only Utd scored more goals than us last year. Stop being silly.

[Cripps_orig]

Only Utd scored more goals than us last year. Stop being silly.

Youre happy with the pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, theres an opening for a shot but fuck that, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, give the ball away, other team go on their first attack of the game, we are 1-0 down. We take kick off. pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass and so on?

Must be the only Arsenal fan that is.

If Arsenal were a football player, We'd be Dimitar Berbatov. When we play well, we look good. Same as him. When we dont, we dont have the work rate to give a fuck. Same as him. Also we score our goals in bulk in a part of the season but not throughout the season. Much like Berbatov.

Our lack of killer instinct cost us the title in 07/08 and its not really improved since. Back then though we had a decent defence. Dont even have that anymore.

I like Vermaelen as do most gooners but how many like him more for his goals than his actual defending cos he hasnt pulled up any trees with it so far.

[Letters]

We overplay at times and we do move forward too slowly too often when we need more pace.
But you think the 2nd top scorers in the title are 'shit offensively'? Really? Behave yourself.
We only failed to score in 6 league games last year (Utd failed to in 5, for comparison).

[Power n Glory]

Where did he say that? End of last season he was very clear that defence was a problem.Whether he'll actually DO a anything about it this summer remains to be seen and I'm skeptical (it's not the first time he's cited it as a problem and failed to address it) but I wouldn't expect him to suddenly change our set up to be defensive nor would I want him to.

Wenger made out as if our defensive record wasn't that bad last season. Djourou even started talking that same bs and tried to make out as if the media had made the whole thing up. his defiant attitude is no good to anyone. It pisses off the press, the fans and even his own players. I hope the defence haven't been taken in by his delusional statments. Djourou looked to have fallen under his spell last season with his silly comments. It's harmful stuff. These guys need to know where they're at and what they should be aiming for. He needs to tell them exactly how shit they are and how they need to improve. But that's a side note. The point is, Wenger has stop with this pig headed defiant attitude. It's rubbing people up the wrong way. He could have just said we'll improve on defending but the philosophy will remain the same. We'd all be fine with that. But he has to go further. Letters, it takes you a very long time to see problems in Wenger's methods and your usually the last one. I've remembered countless seasons where you're willing to give Wenger The benefit of the doubt and see little wrong with what he does. In Cup games we'd lose, you'd say Wenger was right to pick a weak side, we've gone 6 years without a trophy now and now it's finally starting to Dawn on a few folks that we maybe should have taken those games more seriously. I remember having the same silly debate about his team selection during the Wigan game. We just beat Chelsea and Wenger then decides to make wholesale changes to the first team and we end up dropping two points. You thought Wenger was right then as well! It may get a little tiresome hearing people dig at Wenger, but it really has been tiring listening to guys constantly covering for his mistakes over the past 6 years and telling others to pipe down when they've been right from morning! Maybe you should chillax. Yeah, you've finally come around to thinking we need a change, but this is well late into the game and it's pretty insulting to hear you popping at guys when you've been wrong for a very long time.

[Boss]

Wenger made out as if our defensive record wasn't that bad last season. Djourou even started talking that same bs and tried to make out as if the media had made the whole thing up. his defiant attitude is no good to anyone. It pisses off the press, the fans and even his own players. I hope the defence haven't been taken in by his delusional statments. Djourou looked to have fallen under his spell last season with his silly comments. It's harmful stuff. These guys need to know where they're at and what they should be aiming for. He needs to tell them exactly how shit they are and how they need to improve. But that's a side note. The point is, Wenger has stop with this pig headed defiant attitude. It's rubbing people up the wrong way. He could have just said we'll improve on defending but the philosophy will remain the same. We'd all be fine with that. But he has to go further. Letters, it takes you a very long time to see problems in Wenger's methods and your usually the last one. I've remembered countless seasons where you're willing to give Wenger The benefit of the doubt and see little wrong with what he does. In Cup games we'd lose, you'd say Wenger was right to pick a weak side, we've gone 6 years without a trophy now and now it's finally starting to Dawn on a few folks that we maybe should have taken those games more seriously. I remember having the same silly debate about his team selection during the Wigan game. We just beat Chelsea and Wenger then decides to make wholesale changes to the first team and we end up dropping two points. You thought Wenger was right then as well! It may get a little tiresome hearing people dig at Wenger, but it really has been tiring listening to guys constantly covering for his mistakes over the past 6 years and telling others to pipe down when they've been right from morning! Maybe you should chillax. Yeah, you've finally come around to thinking we need a change, but this is well late into the game and it's pretty insulting to hear you popping at guys when you've been wrong for a very long time.

Sensational post.

(even if when I read it there was some spacing going)

[Letters]

I'm not getting into the Wigan debate again, I said what I said at the time and stand by it.
We dropped 2 points because of a stupid defensive mistake of the type we made all last season no matter who was playing.

And it's not true to say I've always defended his choices. When we got dicked at Old Trafford in the FA Cup a couple of years back I was fuming about his selection in such an important game. In other games I thought he was right to mix it up given the fixtures list.

I don't mind people having digs at Wenger and, again, I have done so myself. What is tiresome is people taking ANY excuse to have a pop NO MATTER what he says. Sheesh.