Scroting no doubt
Scroting no doubt
Bournemouth is a good pick for him, IMO - I think he needs to go somewhere and be the big fish for a while, and this will give him the chance to not only be the creative fulcrum for a side, but will also give him plenty of chance to practice the defensive side of his game. Personally speaking, I think he needs to be targeting that slightly deeper Cazorla role (which is the role I always felt Rosicky should have played for us) - for me, it's the best fit for his particular skill set and playing style. Plus you have to be thinking that Santi is going to be 3 months shy of 33 by the start of next season - things could line up nicely for Jack, if manages to prove his fitness and rediscover his sharpness and swagger in the middle.Originally Posted by Chippy
Two caveats to that though...
1. Jack has to take this loan seriously and work towards what is best for his Arsenal future - if the extent of his thinking is that he can have a good old time by the beach with his best mate Benik, then I would imagine that will be his Arsenal career done.
2. Obviously our intention has to be to loan him out with a view to bringing him back - if we're just putting him in the shop window, then I guess there's really not much point in us worrying about where he goes, or how he does?
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I think we've seen the last of Jack in an Arsenal shirt, regardless of whether or not Wenger is manager next year.
If Wenger puts you out on loan, he is done with you, no matter how well you do - Campbell being a case in point. The only way around that is if the stars are all aligned and you end up being his only option because Wenger failed to manage circumstances that arise each season. For Jack however, given our stockpile of MFs, he is in the wrong position.
Also, a new manager will likely want to wield the axe, particularly with an injury prone liability with discipline issues.
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I don't know, Ramsey was sent away on loan to a couple of places after his injury and I think this is a similar move. Coquelin too (even though he was a last option, Wenger wouldn't have recalled at all if he didn't believe in him). Gibbs went out on loan before becoming first choice for a while and Gnabry would've had a shot this season but I think he wanted to play more games and wouldn't sign the contract Wenger mentioned the other week. Bellerin was out on loan too at Watford but injuries, as usual, meant he came back earlier.
I'd be surprised if Wilshere sees out the season, having made a name for himself on the south coast and doesn't come back. Wenger's invested a lot time and energy into him, allowing squad space for a serial crock. If he finally overcomes that on loan, I reckon he'll be back in the squad next season.
Ramsey was 20 years old though. I think this is very different.
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Only because of the amount of injuries he's had. I get the feeling Wilshere pushed for this and if he hadn't, Wenger would've kept him in the squad. Otherwise he would've probably gone on loan a lot earlier this season if Wenger was looking to let him go. Jack probably realised a few games in that being a sub was the best he's going to get for now. We'll see anyway. Likelihood is he'll pick up yet another injury.
The journos said Wenger pushed for it
Ornstein even said that when Milan came to Arsenal with the loan offer plus a chance to purchase at the end of the season, Wenger was okay with that. It's just that Milan came too late.
I think Wenger is done with Wilshere unless Wilshere ends up being the best player in the premiership at Bournemouth.
Fair enough. Either way it's his last chance to show if has a future near the top of the game.
Hard to see him making the most of that though.
That doesn't mean Wenger initially sought the loan option himself. I think Wenger is open minded about it particularly as his own future is uncertain.
He truly is the definition of average. And £30 million for a Championship player is about right?
Cut it out, no he's not, he's a good player on a team that's not good enough for the top flight.
He's far from a championship player, he's a bona-fide top flight player
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