Winter Transfer Speculation

[Niall_Quinn]

Fuck. I knew you’d come back with a long(ish) one. You bastard. Although, to be honest, you could’ve just referred me back to all your other posts about Wenger.

A few months back you were saying that we had a good enough squad but it was because of the manager it wasn’t being maximised and inturn we should we killing the league (and don’t drag me back down that rabbit hole from earlier in the week). So if the squad is good enough but it is just the manager holding us, then the purchases have been ok. Certainly Ok enough to be way ahead of the current state of our opposition. But if the squad isn’t good enough, based on the poor purchases in recent seasons that you highlight above, then we are where we should be right now. It can’t work both ways.

We do have a good enough squad to win this league, it's not much of a league tbf. But that's not the same thing as making sure the squad is as strong as it can be with the resources we have at our disposal. It'd be great to win the title this year, even better if we can win it the following year too rather than dropping back to 4th.

It's just a bad habit of Wenger's to always be leaving us one or two key players short. He won't change.

[Niall_Quinn]

Who is the ideal Vieira replacement or would have been? He was one of a kind.

Indeed, Vieira is one of a kind and I'm not saying we'll find a carbon copy of him. I mean let's get with the program and find the closest player we can to being able to fill that role in the middle. Vidal certainly had that potential. A tough, hard working bastard who links the play excellently and can look after himself when the game goes all Cattermole. 35 goals in 120 appearances for Juve too. Why not? Depending on who you listen to we're talking around £25mill. How could we have not even stuck a bid in? He might have said no, it might never have happened, but it's the fact Wenger doesn't seem remotely interested in filling these big holes in the squad that have been there for years. Okay, finally even he twigged we needed a keeper so I suppose there's still some hope he'll eventually spot the other obvious stuff too.

[Özim]

Talksport vid



ffs

With Wenger in charge, you never know I guess

So typical of some Arsenal fans, just because we sign someone immediately assume he's going to be great even when he's made up!

[Niall_Quinn]

If we win the league then he can't have f***ed up that badly.

That's not automatically true. Ferguson fucked up in his last years by letting the quality of his midfield fall off a cliff, but he still dragged a title out. We could win it this year, but that doesn't means Wenger's fuck-ups in the transfer market can be justified or excused. This would all be so, so much more worse if Coquelin hadn't stepped up. Coquelin's endeavour, which has fuck all to do with Wenger, has saved the manager from looking like the penny pinching, obsessive old goat that he is.

[Letters]

I think we all agree Wenger should have done more last summer. It seemed he tried to and while signing top players isn't like going down the shops, that's why he gets the big bucks. But as strange as this season feels, it's only Chelsea who have really collapsed. The other clubs in the top 6, including us, are not a million miles away from where they were at this stage last season. If we win the league then while not absolving Wenger of blame, it'll maybe show he's not quite as flawed as some on here make out. Not that he doesn't have his flaws of course, but so do all managers.

[selassie]

If there ever was any hope of a God existing, now is the time to prove it:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ertrand-traore

You gotta laugh at Chelski, they break all the rules to bring in youth and then refuse to promote them into their first team, it's comical!

[selassie]

I think we all agree Wenger should have done more last summer. It seemed he tried to and while signing top players isn't like going down the shops, that's why he gets the big bucks. But as strange as this season feels, it's only Chelsea who have really collapsed. The other clubs in the top 6, including us, are not a million miles away from where they were at this stage last season. If we win the league then while not absolving Wenger of blame, it'll maybe show he's not quite as flawed as some on here make out. Not that he doesn't have his flaws of course, but so do all managers.

Wenger tried last summer? He had no intention of adding outfield players, he said so himself many times, I'll try and dig out the quotes.

[Letters]

Wenger tried last summer? He had no intention of adding outfield players, he said so himself many times, I'll try and dig out the quotes.

He's hardly going to say "we're screwed if we don't sign any outfield players", is he?
I don't believe he wasn't trying to sign anyone.

[Kano]

Wenger tried last summer? He had no intention of adding outfield players, he said so himself many times, I'll try and dig out the quotes.

This essentially covers it

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ave-big-impact

He realises he cocked up in the summer now, which is why we have Elneny. Vidal, yes we should've gone in for but someone of Elneny's level would have been far easier to source back in the summer but he chose not to. Wilshere/Coq/Arteta/Flam were seen as enough. Just like a striker on a similar level to Giroud, if better wasn't available.

But fuck it. Going back over this ground again and again is pointless. We are where we are now. That's what we have to deal with until the end of the season.

[Özim]

I think we all agree Wenger should have done more last summer. It seemed he tried to and while signing top players isn't like going down the shops, that's why he gets the big bucks.

I don't think he tried hard enough, you've got 3 months to sign players, everyone else seems to manage it, I don't understand why a club of our resources can't manage it. There's no excuse for not doing the necessary.

His transfer policy is flawed, we have similar issues in most transfer windows.