you keep ignoring that he got 6 goals in 8 CL games, as well as the 54 goals in 52 games for in the Portuguese league.Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
He clearly has an Ian Wright-type killer instinct for goal, given his suppliers would be Odegaard, Rice, Martinelli, White, Saka, etc he's going to get plenty of opportunity I'd suggest - even if he got half that tally we would call it a good buy right?
Last edited by Mac76; 09-06-2025 at 05:58 PM.
And of these six goals three were in one game (and two of those were penalties)
As I said he could prove me wrong, but acting like it’s a sure thing he’d make it in the premier league….especially when so many other Portugal based strikers have been utter flops
Also our problem this season hasn’t just been a lack of goal scorer it’s been a lack of consistently creating good goal scoring opportunities (but that’s a different discussion entirely)
I’m not convinced by Gyokeres…as I’ve said a lot of his goals come from having more space than he’d get in the league and if he goes to Man United, it will be the case that a lot of other big clubs will have shown similar reservations.
So you mark him down for getting a CL hat trick, the guy can't win can he
I’m not marking him down I’m putting things in perspectiveSo you mark him down for getting a CL hat trick, the guy can't win can he
That hat-trick included two penalties as I’ve said
You all are claiming that he’s a super star striker that we must be mad to pass up on, all I’m saying is the vast volume of his goals come in a deeply inferior league and it also seems that a lot of top clubs are passing on him.
Sesko got four goals in the champions league league stage, and in terms of non penalty goals he got one fewer than Gyokeres
My preference for Sesko is a) he’s played at a higher level than Gyokeres b) I genuinely prefer us to get in younger players that can be moulded and have a big scope for improvement
If Gyokeres had played in Germany and got even half the goals he managed in Portugal, I’d be a lot more positive about him
The joke is you accuse me of being too certain in my opinion of things, where as I’m pushing back slightly on other people’s certainties. Could he make it in the premier league? I don’t know but yes it’s certainly possible, but I’m personally more confident of Seako’s ability to make it here
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 10-06-2025 at 07:16 AM.
Played at a higher level? You just compared what they did in the Champions League, am I missing something.
Also if you mean because Sesko plays in the Bundesliga given so few forwards have performed hugely well coming from Germany, unless they're the ones signed by Man City so I'm not sure where you get the confidence from.
But like I said before, Sesko means more Havertz starting in my mind.
As for players that can be moulded that's exactly what I don't want - don't want to see idenitkit players playing in the same way, doing the same things.
That's what leads to our predictability.
The majority of football is domestic, the German Bundesliga represents a far higher level than Portugal, and there’s a lot more in terms of success stories from that league to the premier league.
Confidence is relative…Ive never said it’s a sure thing that Sesko will be better than Gyokeres. However I’ve seen enough of him to see vast potential. Plus I don’t get why people are so confident Gyokeres will be a success. My preference as I’ve stated was to buy two strikers, one for the here and now and one like Sesko. I don’t like signing players over the age of 25 full stop (unless it’s a cheaper signing like Jorginho) but if we were to do that, I’d much rather go for someone like Lautaro Martinez
End of the day, nothing you or I say will make a difference to the way we play. I think we need to buy another creative midfielder but it’s not going to happen, because that will facilitate creating more space against obdurate opponents especially at home.
I think when the time comes for Arteta to make way, I’d much rather have a young striker with bags of potential in the team than someone who could well have flopped and will become impossible to get off our books. If we really want a sure thing, arguably neither Sesko or Gyokeres are the answer.
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 10-06-2025 at 08:15 AM.
That's what bothers me too - if Sesko is going to be Artetered then he'll be no use to us
He had a year left on his contract and refused to sign an extension. Napoli sent him away out of spite. He was the star of that season with them. They refused all bids and had to let him leave on leave. I think he is now available on a free
Make 2mrw better than 2day
I think the problem with Osimhen is greed and the perception that he is an unsavoury character.
we should go for who we can get, if Osimhen, for whatever reason, is available right now then buy* - we've enough funds to get a Sesko or Gyokeres or even a Watkins as well if we want
*(EDIT - actually if what MO says is true then maybe not...
what we don't need is Sane, I'm willing to bet he's getting past his peak
In general I'm not sure LW is such a priority, for me Leo and Martinelli are fine, they just need someone in the middle more reliable than Havertz
Last edited by Mac76; 10-06-2025 at 08:54 AM.
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