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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Pellegrini is average manager, if you look at the squad and cash at his disposal and they got their nuts whipped with a wet towel by Leicester on Saturday and he just sits there looking like one of the things in terra hawks.

    Wenger is incredibly frustrating and makes ridiculous elementary mistakes time and time again but no doubt currently better than Pellegrini or Van Gaal.
    Yep, totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    You want Pelligrini, but are turning your nose up at Simeone and Tuchel?

    Simeone has built a great team/squad at Atletico, he's like Wenger was pre-Emirates days, the amount of young talent he's bringing through is insane and they are all special talents too, the likes of Oblak, Oliver Torres, Saul Niguez, Gimenez, Carrasco, Correa etc. Simeone's record in the market with young talents is near flawless.

    Him not speaking fluent English is a negative but it's the only one IMO, he's an Elite coach.

    Tuchel is doing a great job at Dortmund, they were a mess last season and he's slowly bringing them back to their former level. Bayern are in a league of their own TBH, so any team/manager that finishes above them would have done an amazing job. Tuchel is a young manager too, he did good work at Mainz considering they had pretty much no budget to spend on players.

    Dortmund are still very much challenging for the Bundesliga and have looked very solid this season IMO.

    Pelligrini? He's a good coach but I see too many flaws in him and I don't believe him to be an upgrade on Wenger. He's also getting on a bit, I would prefer us to hire a young manager when Wenger finally throws in the towel.
    Yeah, Pellegrini is a dinosaur. He's only ever won the title with City and has no major trophies to his name. No thanks.

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    Don't they get win bonuses? They certainly don't get any less money if they win stuff. If you get to the level these guys have got to then you must be pretty competitive, why settle for 4th place when you have a shot at 1st? Witness the celebrations after the FA Cup wins, these guys enjoy winning.
    Of course they enjoy winning, but players don't have to win to bank a fortune these days. Not just our lot, but any of the players at the top level. Some don't even need to play. The drive to win must be diminished by the ease at which "success" can be had today in comparison to the past. Half a decent season and you're on your way to gypo land for £50mill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Pellegrini is average manager, if you look at the squad and cash at his disposal and they got their nuts whipped with a wet towel by Leicester on Saturday and he just sits there looking like one of the things in terra hawks.

    Wenger is incredibly frustrating and makes ridiculous elementary mistakes time and time again but no doubt currently better than Pellegrini or Van Gaal.
    Pellegrini has fucked up just as badly as Wenger this season. Worse in some respects as he has such a powerful squad at his disposal that has two internationals for every position (sometimes three) and yet we listen to excuses about Kompany being injured. So what, in a billion quid squad? Obviously he'd be better than Wenger tactically, that would be true of any manager though. But as the guy to take on Guardiola and Maureen next season he'd be out of his depth considering he can't take on Leicester or the spuds this year. He may still go on and scrape the title, but it will be a scramble and a crawl to it rather than a stride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Pellegrini has fucked up just as badly as Wenger this season. Worse in some respects as he has such a powerful squad at his disposal that has two internationals for every position (sometimes three) and yet we listen to excuses about Kompany being injured. So what, in a billion quid squad? Obviously he'd be better than Wenger tactically, that would be true of any manager though. But as the guy to take on Guardiola and Maureen next season he'd be out of his depth considering he can't take on Leicester or the spuds this year. He may still go on and scrape the title, but it will be a scramble and a crawl to it rather than a stride.
    Yep, when I heard Pellegrini complaining about injuries earlier on this season I had a good old chuckle.

    He's basically not really improved them, their only buy who has been a success over the past few seasons has been De Bruyne. He's wasted millions on dud CB's too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Don't they get win bonuses? They certainly don't get any less money if they win stuff. If you get to the level these guys have got to then you must be pretty competitive, why settle for 4th place when you have a shot at 1st? Witness the celebrations after the FA Cup wins, these guys enjoy winning.
    When you've got a stack load of money you've never really had to work that hard for in the 1st place, you're not too bothered about having to work to get a bit more as it's too much hassle as you're already comfortable enough as it is.

    Our players have largely been handed millions without having to achieve anything, it's not really a surprise they lack hunger, the fact Wenger isn't a motivator just makes it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Pellegrini has fucked up just as badly as Wenger this season. Worse in some respects as he has such a powerful squad at his disposal that has two internationals for every position (sometimes three) and yet we listen to excuses about Kompany being injured. So what, in a billion quid squad? Obviously he'd be better than Wenger tactically, that would be true of any manager though. But as the guy to take on Guardiola and Maureen next season he'd be out of his depth considering he can't take on Leicester or the spuds this year. He may still go on and scrape the title, but it will be a scramble and a crawl to it rather than a stride.
    Pellegrini has done a terrible job, agreed he's better than Wenger tactically but he's a small time manager suited to managing players who don't have big egos much like Wenger to be honest, he has no place managing a top club because he just doesn't have the skills.

    I'm not a fan of Guardiola but he can manage egos and will probably get the best out of the City squad and sign a few more stars to boot.

    The title has literally been offered to us on a plate this season, but Wenger has turned his nose up at it and been as complacent as he has always been in the last 10 years, hard to tell whether his first few years were just down to having an advantage in the market due to his knowledge of French players or actual mangerial ability, he was clearly a good scout, he's not even that good at that anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    You want Pelligrini, but are turning your nose up at Simeone and Tuchel?

    Simeone has built a great team/squad at Atletico, he's like Wenger was pre-Emirates days, the amount of young talent he's bringing through is insane and they are all special talents too, the likes of Oblak, Oliver Torres, Saul Niguez, Gimenez, Carrasco, Correa etc. Simeone's record in the market with young talents is near flawless.

    Him not speaking fluent English is a negative but it's the only one IMO, he's an Elite coach.

    Tuchel is doing a great job at Dortmund, they were a mess last season and he's slowly bringing them back to their former level. Bayern are in a league of their own TBH, so any team/manager that finishes above them would have done an amazing job. Tuchel is a young manager too, he did good work at Mainz considering they had pretty much no budget to spend on players.

    Dortmund are still very much challenging for the Bundesliga and have looked very solid this season IMO.

    Pelligrini? He's a good coach but I see too many flaws in him and I don't believe him to be an upgrade on Wenger. He's also getting on a bit, I would prefer us to hire a young manager when Wenger finally throws in the towel.
    100%

    Pellegrini is Wenget without the financial acumen, and political know how ...a poor man's Wenget imho

    Diego Simeone on the other hand would be my preferred choice. Top calibre coach who I think is very much underestimated by a lot of people. If given the resources he can take on the big boys and beat them, heck he's done it with less resources. He is young, tactically very astute and builds his teams around a strong spine with great complimentary young talent. Most of all though he absolutely hates losing, does not suffer fools and players must toe the line and deliver, consistently giving high output ...or they simply won't stay in the team or ultimately will be moved on out of the club. I'd make every effort to get him in, I'm convinced he'd give everything he's got and will expect the same from the players and the club.
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