Mikel Arteta Thread

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

What the feck are you talking about, mate? Where are your comprehension skills? Can anyone else make sense of this?

This isn’t even a dispute about the type of player he is. We both pretty much agree on his type of role in the squad. You’ve pulled this ‘controller’ phrase out from your ass somewhere, nobody in football would describe a creative midfielder, deep laying playmaker, maestro…whatever as a ‘controller’ but I get what you’re saying and the role you’re trying to describe. In one word, you’d call him a ‘midfielder’ in footballing terms but as the game has become more sophisticated and complex, we need more words to fully describe a players role and attributes.. That’s not even an issue, so answering that one question you keep harping on about is bloody irrelevant in this ‘debate’. You can describe him as a controller if you want but my main point is he doesn’t make a very good one.


Of course it’s not when we’re talking about what we require to get better as a team. Heck, we had Cesc and I mention Rosicky. These are his peers and it’s far from ridiculous, especially when people on here are saying he had better stats than Xavi and Pirlo the season before. Should I compare him to Denilson? Would that help?

Next to a DM/destroyer, I doubt Arteta would flourish because we saw him play alongside Song and instead of hunting for the ball and conducting play, trying to make things happen in the same way a player like Cesc, Rosicky do, he took a backseat and opted for the more defensive role. If we bought a DM, played Arteta as a CM with Cazorla or JW at the top of that trio, I think we’d still struggle because we’d need someone that has better awareness, able to cope under pressure and see the pass before he’s received the ball. Arteta just doesn’t have that sort of awareness in his locker. That’s the main point you should be looking at.




This is a contradiction my friend. Yes, you said he was excellent next to a DM, then denied you said it. But forget that, I disagree with him being excellent next to a DM. See point above.

it took you 1059 posts with me to be able to make a structured argument. well done. i finally understand your waffle. hoorah!

now you've been able to speak proper english i can see what your saying and agree with most of it. i do think you're being harsh on him when he played with song though. if arteta pushed forward more often we would have seen fewer assists from song that year and in the end it proved crucial. he was a good cover for song in that sense, picking up the pieces when that idiot raced forward.

song was a weird one, he was the DM and the closest thing we had to a 'destroyer' but he also deserted his duties leaving arteta at the back. in the end they switched; when one went up, the other stayed back. i liked the balance arteta gave us that year but according to you he's been crap all his arsenal career so each to their own.

[Power n Glory]

Why so aggressive in the first place? Why the insults? From my opening posts I made my position clear but it's like you saw red, consumed by rage and decided to just start throwing insults and take offence. Maybe it was the heatwave.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

i wasnt. you were the one getting annoyed and fabricating things

[Power n Glory]

Really? This was necessary?

i think you'll find i was the one who just said he was better next to a DM instead of as the DM. in other words, he shouldnt be played out of position.

read posts properly before you comment and try to debate with someone who is actually agreeing with you

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

telling you to read posts properly so you dont end up wasting time debating with someone who agrees with you? yes it was necessary, it's common sense man!

[Power n Glory]

But we don't agree, dude!

I got what you said the first time and just disagree with it. Have you misread something?

Feck it.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ffs get a room you two.

[Power n Glory]

Just killing time. Not much else to discuss this summer.

But to open things up to everyone else, I still think it doesn't matter where Arteta players, he won't do the job we need. He lacks the agility, sharpness and awareness to play further up field alongside a DM. It looks like he's struggling as a DM...but he seems to have good leadership qualities.

I have no idea what Wenger is planning this summer, but Arteta, Wilshere and Cazorla as the trio doesn't work. He has to buy someone because we're still missing that edge. The passing isn't as crisp and we look to run out of ideas and passing options quickly. Only when Rosicky plays do we look better or that one time against Liverpool when Diaby was fit! Hard choices this summer but maybe we'll see an improvement after pre season.

[Injury Time]

It's a cult classic. Fast and Furious ripped it off!

That chase scene....same director as Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty.

75% of those letters are correct...

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Just killing time. Not much else to discuss this summer.

But to open things up to everyone else, I still think it doesn't matter where Arteta players, he won't do the job we need. He lacks the agility, sharpness and awareness to play further up field alongside a DM. It looks like he's struggling as a DM...but he seems to have good leadership qualities.

Hence why he was never able to make it in any team of note.

He's averageness personified and should never have been bought when we hit panic mode 2 seasons ago after the manc humiliation. Our most embarrassing defeat in our history and the signings that followed have to be ranked among our worst bit of transfer dealings ever.

Arteta.

Benayoun.

Santos.

Park.