Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Niall_Quinn]

We should also put in stupid money bids with huge wage offers for Suarez and Aguero. Say £60mill plus £300K per week. At the very least see if we can trigger a contract re-negotiation and unsettle the player. Make them spend big, fuck with them, piss around and waste their time, use every dirty trick in the book. Worst that could happen is the player would agree and we'd have to pay. But so what. In a couple of years £300K will be standard for top tier strikers, and even for wildly overrated players like Cavani. Everyone plays filthy with us and we should be giving it back big time. Press leaks, fake third party out of window tapping up that can't be traced back, nasty rumours put amongst the fans, the whole bag.

[fakeyank]

What we need is pace in the team. We need people ready to take on opposition defenders and run past them. We need more than one player attacking the box from crosses. We need a complete overhaul of our style of play. We need to have different plans for different teams, we need different tactics for different situations.

Look at the above and ask yourself if Wenger is going to do any of that? History says no. So the most important signing we can make this summer is a new manager with fresh ideas. I do not believe we will get the best out of most top players with our style of play and management. Once we can make this happen, I believe the rest will fall into place by itself.

[fari]

What we need is pace in the team. We need people ready to take on opposition defenders and run past them. We need more than one player attacking the box from crosses. We need a complete overhaul of our style of play. We need to have different plans for different teams, we need different tactics for different situations.

Look at the above and ask yourself if Wenger is going to do any of that? History says no. So the most important signing we can make this summer is a new manager with fresh ideas. I do not believe we will get the best out of most top players with our style of play and management. Once we can make this happen, I believe the rest will fall into place by itself.

thing is, wenger gained so much success with players who possessed those gifts (Anelka, Henry etc) that the shift to a slow player like giroud seems very strange. I get that he was bought to partner/sub for rvp but how come no one was bought last summer?

anywho, one of the guys that i had thought were worth a punt-Adrian Ramos from hamburg (3rd in bundesliga scoring table)was just bought by Dortmund. They've also signed Sahin on a perm deal. Swift, decisive action.

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thing is, wenger gained so much success with players who possessed those gifts (Anelka, Henry etc) that the shift to a slow player like giroud seems very strange. I get that he was bought to partner/sub for rvp but how come no one was bought last summer?

anywho, one of the guys that i had thought were worth a punt-Adrian Ramos from hamburg (3rd in bundesliga scoring table)was just bought by Dortmund. They've also signed Sahin on a perm deal. Swift, decisive action.

Rumour has it we've already signed that Dr. Mic lad for 8m (or less), who was 2nd in the bundlesliga scoring table? Will have to see if that ones true or not...

[fari]

Rumour has it we've already signed that Dr. Mic lad for 8m (or less), who was 2nd in the bundlesliga scoring table? Will have to see if that ones true or not...

Drmic? hm...the plot thickens

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Drmic? hm...the plot thickens

Well that's what everyone in Germany keeps insisting anyway? You sound like you watch a bit of German football - any good? I've only seen a few YT clips, but I thought he looked pretty good for a 20 year old at a weak club...

[AFC Leveller]

With Bendtner leaving we'll need at least 2 strikers this summer (assuming Giroud isnt sold) and i dont think we'll sign two world class players as Wenger doesnt do that. a player i really like is Bony at Swansea, he's a beast. I think he'd be a very good second choice/back up to whoever we sign as first choice. Bony for me anyway, is betetr than anyone we currently have and that in itself is an improvement.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Watched Draxler a few times and he appears to be a decent player. That's all, we're not talking Messi or even RvP. I know he's young and has time to fulfil his potential, question is do we have the time to wait? We'll just see the players jumping ship again if we don't mount a proper challenge next season. And to do that we'd be better off with ready made talent.

I should think so as if he was of that level we would probably not be in the running. It is clear though, as you've already suggested in another thread we will need more than 1 player this season anyway.

If we accept that we need a few in, it is probably fair to say we won't be expecting 3 Suarez' to walk through the door..... Lord knows getting one through the door is tricky enough. I would surmise the way to go would be to sign 1 x world class player, 1 x top class player and perhaps 1 x good/top player with world class potential.

One of those players can easily be Draxler, though if your arguing that it is too much of the budget on a player of his ilk right now, I agree. The problem is, there are no real obvious candidates left any more of world class quality (beyond Costa who's been brilliant) so we do need to be a little street savvy in the market now.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

RE Draxler, it's the wrong signing for me, players should be signed according to a teams need not based on the fact they have talent, we don't need any CM does that mean we should sign one anyway if a top class one comes along?

We need a striker not a wannabe striker (not really fair as it's probably Wenger that thinks he could be a striker).

You also have to look at the players individual skill set if you want to be forward thinking and integrate him into a new team. I think I heard gunnerblog say a stat about Draxler having the highest number of completed dribbles in Europe or something. Other than Chamberlain we are rather lacking on players who will really run at the opposition directly and have the finesse to be able to get beyond them. I know Walcott has escaped our attention somewhat due to his injury but he is more a runner than dribbler.

Part of the reason Bayern are so good is because their wide players are that potent and their midfielders ghost into advance positions from midfield.

I would welcome Draxler here with open arms on the basis of his skill set alone. It's a bit of a stereotype too but the German talents tend to be well balanced players, not least as a result of a well balanced league and generally having a good attitude and approach to being a pro. Give me more well balanced, talented mentally strong players here any day.

To rubber stamp the point we would all welcome Tony Kroos here with open arms even though he is a central player because he is that bloody good and his skill set means he can always get you a goal and is very good with the ball under pressure.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'd have no problem with Draxler being signed - provided there was still £70mill odd left in the pot for some ready made firepower and creativity. No more transition periods please.