January Transfers -- Speculation & Shit?

[Özim]

Ox Chamberlain, has talent that much is clear, the question is were we in a position to spend 12 million on a player who will take time to develop? IMO not, we need to use that money towards buying some ready to go and proven, if you've got a great team and are looking to the future that's fine, if however your team isn't so good you need to think about the present.

I'm a fan of Oxo, the fact remains that he's not developed enough to have a big enough impact at the moment, that will probably change in a few years but once again we have to wait around for a player to come good, Wenger has been spending money on the future for 7 years now with little to show for it.

[Maestro]

Rubbish just rubbish. We had a better team then, Theo was not forced straight into action like Ox has been, Theo was allowed to learn if players like Cesc, Th14, RVP etc. Ox is learning and playing with shite.

Easy for Theo to look good when he was playing with a better team.

excuse me Charlie, but it seems you are in total agreement with what Ach said ...???

sorry maybe i should butt out, none of my business. what with the galactic wars on here ..ain't getting caught in no crossfire

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah I didn't get it either. Charlie disagreeing and agreeing with me on the same thing. Anyway no war going on here. When you are right as often as I am, its hardly a war

[Olivier's xmas twist]

excuse me Charlie, but it seems you are in total agreement with what Ach said ...???

sorry maybe i should butt out, none of my business. what with the galactic wars on here ..ain't getting caught in no crossfire

Nah you good. Feel free to have you say.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah I didn't get it either. Charlie disagreeing and agreeing with me on the same thing. Anyway no war going on here. When you are right as often as I am, its hardly a war

I was not agree with you, my point was, Theo was much of a Gamble as Ox. We still had to wait for him to develop which he was allowed time too. Ox has not had that time. So to call him a Choker is our of order. At least wait till he gets to Theo's age and make that call.

[Maestro]

I was not agree with you, my point was, Theo was much of a Gamble as Ox. We still had to wait for him to develop which he was allowed time too. Ox has not had that time. So to call him a Choker is our of order. At least wait till he gets to Theo's age and make that call.

Fair play I get that, and I'm sure so does Ach. However Ach is saying Ox has turned up when our trophy years are almost a decade ago and a bit of a fading memory ...essentially patience has run out on the part of most fans. In other words he's coming to a more hostile environment and as unfair as it is on him, it is what it is ...poor lad

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Fair play I get that, and I'm sure so does Ach. However Ach is saying Ox has turned up when our trophy years are almost a decade ago and a bit of a fading memory ...essentially patience has run out on the part of most fans. In other words he's coming to a more hostile environment and as unfair as it is on him, it is what it is ...poor lad

Thats fine, but i don't see the need for him to call him a choker. Its his second season with us and its not like he has played a lot of games to choke in. Yes Ach has a point maybe that tag of being that next special kid has put pressure on him.

[Cripps_orig]

I was not agree with you, my point was, Theo was much of a Gamble as Ox. We still had to wait for him to develop which he was allowed time too. Ox has not had that time. So to call him a Choker is our of order. At least wait till he gets to Theo's age and make that call.

Difference is we could be patient with Theo as he came in not as a first teamer as we had a decent first team then. We don't now hence we need Ox to deliver and he's not I'm sorry to say. Age means little to me. If you are in the first team then perform or GTFO. Don't expect him to play well all the time but one good game v Mancs in January is not good enough. Haven't seen him play that well since.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

NQ or a Charlie who love it when Theo for examples has a bad game and they can point score on here. That aint me. I want to be wrong about players I critisise. Would love nothing more. Alas my record is pretty much perfect

Rubbish don't speak for me please, just like you with Ox im happy when Theo can prove me wrong and do what he does best. I don't need to point score with anyone on here. End of the day if Theo plays shite its Arsenal thats loses and that hurts. I have said a million times i want him to sign a new deal and stay.

Unlike you i don't right players off without given a couple of seasons to play with us, so i can come on here and point score.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Difference is we could be patient with Theo as he came in not as a first teamer as we had a decent first team then. We don't now hence we need Ox to deliver and he's not I'm sorry to say. Age means little to me. If you are in the first team then perform or GTFO. Don't expect him to play well all the time but one good game v Mancs in January is not good enough. Haven't seen him play that well since.

Maybe cause he has hardly played. I get your criticisms of Arteta, not that i agree with them all the time. But with him you can judge him cause he has hit his peak. But Ox just think he needs more time, yes we need him to do a job now but we must be patient with him.

No one expected him to come in and be a world beater and we still don't.