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    Quote Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead View Post
    kronke has killed the Colorado Avalanche by penny pinching and the same will happen at Arsenal.
    This is absolutely not true. He has invested in every team he owns when there is a need for it. He is a big believer of continuity within the squad so his main flaw is that he persists with the coach/manager for the longest time possible. In our case, unfortunately we have a donkey as the manager of AFC.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead View Post
    We don't have any debts to pay off now! That line used by the club wore thin a long time ago. But yeah when it comes to actually playing a game of football we're bloody terrible.
    I'm not one for swallowing the corporate line, but even with the new commercial deals, when did the stadium loans/debt get finally paid off? Its news to me - thought we were at least 1-2 years away from doing so?

    In February Wenger said this:

    “I am surprised that you are surprised," he said at Friday's press conference. "Do you think the target of the Club is to lose money? That cannot last a long time. The target is to make a profit. It looks normal for any company in the world, so I don't know why it is surprising.

    “We want to pay the debt we owe from the stadium we built, that's around £15 million [per year]. So it's normal that at the start, we have to make at least £15 million or we lose money.”

    Wenger insists he does not feel that his hands are tied in the transfer market due to the financial requirements of the Club.

    “I accept one basic principle for every company; that you can spend the money you make,” he said.

    “It always looks like a massive surprise that I have to convince you of that. I think it is just natural common sense and logic.

    “It is mathematical logic that what goes out has to equal what comes in. If that does not work then the company loses money.”

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...r-stadium-debt
    If its true, I'd be willing to expect some years without being title contenders, getting 4th for the CL money, as long as on the pitch the tactics, motivation and defensive organisation were there, and we really went for the cups. If Liverpool can pick up a CC then why can't we? But we can't even win the cups now so its all a bit depressing really. I'm thinking another manager might win us the cups, but would another manager get us 4th on the budget we are on? Being as sick of this "4th place trophy" as its become, if it helps us pay off the debt quicker then its obviously a necessity.

    Without the debt there can be no more excuses, as the stadium would now generate the funds it was intended for, propelling us into the big league of earners. But on the pitch there's clearly something very wrong with the basics and it has been like that for YEARS, something which, as mentioned, stems from the manager. Its a complex and immensely irritating situation.
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    Woke up this morning and saw the result and though 'poo' - looked at the teamsheets and thought W T F!
    Did not see the match but by reading the posts there obviously is no need to.

    I take Ollies points and can relate a lot. . .my initial reaction to the score was our B team got done and Wenger has no excuses. . .as now, more than ever is a time to take an scrap seeiously but the team he put out showed that he wanted this and for this I think the players need to shoulder a lot of the feckin blame because they are a feckin joke.

    On the other side of the fence is Wenger and even though I blame the multi millionaire players that ran out on the pitch, he is very much part of that team and should be standing up with them, bowing his own head in shame. It sounds as if he got it massively wrong again last night, Ramsey os not a winger and Gerv is not the tip of diamond formation, in fact a diamond formation is not what we should be playing. Feck,we know that, why doesnt he?

    He makes the decisions, sold our best players, telling us the ones he brought in could deliver. . .deliver what? feckin milk? might have been so when that Mickey Mouse tin pot was named after the feckin stuff!

    I dont think we have bad players, but they have some serious issues with consistency. . .I truely believe Wenger has lost the changing room and when this happens, the wruiting is on the wall, has been for a while to be fair and it is a real fecking shame, I am actually sad writing this but for the sake of the club. . .but the players also have to share the responsibility. !
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    Is he still here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8 View Post
    I have no axes to grind with RVP. He was the reason we finished 4th and if we as fans are so angry and fustrated, how can you blame RVP for leaving the club to go to Man Ure, as much as it pains me, they are a proper football club with one agenda, WIN WIN WIN. Their phillopshy is if you finish 2nd nobody cares, thats why I have the utmost respect for the Glaser family and Fergie, they are making a ton of money but also spending it to stay ahead and win championships and cup finals. If only that **** Kroenke and Arsene Wanker followed the same model.
    We finished 3rd.

    I post this, not to pull you up or undermine your point.

    I only reference this because the scrum running our Club have made 4th place ingrained in the whole psychology of the Club, right down to the fans.

    And this is why we are the pathetic embarrassing shambles we are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    This is absolutely not true. He has invested in every team he owns when there is a need for it. He is a big believer of continuity within the squad so his main flaw is that he persists with the coach/manager for the longest time possible. In our case, unfortunately we have a donkey as the manager of AFC.
    You are wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. I've posted many times about his stewardship of the Avalanche. They were a premiere club in the NHL, with massive attendances, won a Stanley Cup the second year he owned them, before all their stars left because he has them at the salary cap floor.

    They are in the same division as the Calgary Flames, and we used to fear them, now they are a banker result and they stink up the league while somehow still retaining the loyalty of fans.

    Sound familiar?

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    Time to go now.

    When your last expenditure was £50 MILLION on Giroud, Podolski, Santos and Mertesacker you know the game is up.

    Wenger's gift was spotting talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn View Post
    Look at this **** journo already. He has no fucking clue what the status of Wenger's job is yet he knows there are fingernails involved. That's the only mention of this shock revelation in the rest of the slimy cock wart's excrement smeared across tomorrow's back pages.
    he does know our board right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Jingling All Over View Post
    Woke up this morning and saw the result and though 'poo' - looked at the teamsheets and thought W T F!
    Did not see the match but by reading the posts there obviously is no need to.

    I take Ollies points and can relate a lot. . .my initial reaction to the score was our B team got done and Wenger has no excuses. . .as now, more than ever is a time to take an scrap seeiously but the team he put out showed that he wanted this and for this I think the players need to shoulder a lot of the feckin blame because they are a feckin joke.

    On the other side of the fence is Wenger and even though I blame the multi millionaire players that ran out on the pitch, he is very much part of that team and should be standing up with them, bowing his own head in shame. It sounds as if he got it massively wrong again last night, Ramsey os not a winger and Gerv is not the tip of diamond formation, in fact a diamond formation is not what we should be playing. Feck,we know that, why doesnt he?

    He makes the decisions, sold our best players, telling us the ones he brought in could deliver. . .deliver what? feckin milk? might have been so when that Mickey Mouse tin pot was named after the feckin stuff!

    I dont think we have bad players, but they have some serious issues with consistency. . .I truely believe Wenger has lost the changing room and when this happens, the wruiting is on the wall, has been for a while to be fair and it is a real fecking shame, I am actually sad writing this but for the sake of the club. . .but the players also have to share the responsibility. !

    More like he's lost the plot, its hard to see a man like what he was become like he has. Its like Clough all over again. The longer Wenger stays the more he makes a fool of himself and no one wants to see that.

    Top post though agree 100%
    "I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post

    More like he's lost the plot, its hard to see a man like what he was become like he has. Its like Clough all over again. The longer Wenger stays the more he makes a fool of himself and no one wants to see that.

    Top post though agree 100%
    Shit just read my own post, spelling is awful. . .fat finger syndrome kicked in at the wrong time

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