Could be a new thread - Who goes 1st - Letters or Wenger. One is a bumbling, arrogant, megalomaniac that will never listen to reason & fails every year to change with the times & learn from previous mistakes - the other one is French.Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
There is plenty of data to show that he will try to fit square pegs into round holes. His inability to change, alter formations, play players in their positions CANNOT be related to money. Give him a billion dollars spending money and he will still play players out of position and have little tactical nous.
Money is not the issue, our manager is.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
Correct - we have £200 mill sat in the bank & yet we have strikers that would struggle to impress at Stoke.
Wenger has his faults but those faults were there when we were winning titles, they were there for the last 2 years when we've won 2 cups.
We've got a squad good enough to properly challenge this year. If we don't then sure, #WengerOut.
But let's not pretend that the next manager will come in and we'll suddenly be sweeping all before us. With the two billionaire sticking their oar in it's harder than ever to win the league these days and it's no coincidence that the only 3 sides to do so since we last did are the 3 sides with bigger resources than us.
If a new manager came in & like the rest of the footballing world, saw the need for us to improve in key areas - went out & bought Vidal & Benzema as well as playing the likes of OX, Ozil, Cazorla in their correct positions - we may very well "clean the board" - not necessarily the C.L. but we'd have a much better chance. In recent years teams winning the league haven't been too impressive. Chelsea stumbled home last year, Liverpool could & should have won it the year before - all the way back to Fergie's last title which was a poor Utd team - we've hardy been up against any modern day invincibles.
Your dismissal of someone new coming in & being able to achieve what Wenger hasn't for the past decade is wierd. I'm not saying someone new guarantees us the league but I certainly can't say we woudln't win it.
What I'm dismissing is the idea (which may not be people's view, but sounds like it sometimes - especially when you hear some of the names of potential replacements for Wenger) that Wenger is a bumbling incompetent ™, can't see what the rest of us can see and that any idiot would come in and do better.
A new manager would mean an effort to make a change. Please dont mistaken by criticism of Wenger to be because of trophies... sometimes trophies are won and lost by the smallest margins. My displeasure is that we do not even challenge, and when it does look like we can challenge, Wenger takes his foot off the pedal.
What astonishes me about Wenger is his lack of common sense in so many situations. It was not rocket science to figure out that our center was soft, yet the only way that problem was solved was because of injuries last season. Ditto for defensive vulnerabilities, lack of width, having a plan B etc. Money can only mitigate these issues partly but you cannot compete if you are stubborn in your ways and do not want to change.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
But unfortunately that view of Wenger is down to him. Is it any co-incidence that since he ( for the first time ever ) bought actual world class in Ozil & Sanchez, that we have gone on to win a trophy. Not only that but climb to 3rd last year when really a slightly better finish would have got us 2nd. Even I, after the Cup final performance, was thinking - come on Arsene, give yourself a treat - we've got the money now, go on & buy a couple of worldies to give us a further chance next year. The whole of the footballing world have suggested that with a better goal-scorer we have a chance. Even Thierry gave his thoughts on this.
But no, Arsene won't be told. Instead trying to prove everyone else wrong. "It is not the answer to go & buy new players after a defeat" he says - Well what did he do after the 8-2 Utd defeat & then the Villa one 2 years ago.
If he can't see that we are probably only a serious goal scorer a way from really challenging because he want to have faith with players he bought - then we will go nowhere. He has a history of playing mediocre players for too long even when the home crowd & media were questioning the quality of these players, Dennilson & Eboue for example. Now we have the same situation with Giroud & Welbeck. Neither will EVER be the consistent finisher we need, not now or in 5 years time. When you have realised this - get rid. It may take us 3 or 4 strikers to find the next Aguero but if we keep Giroud & Welbeck just because Wenger doesn't want to be proved wrong about them, then we don't find the next Aguero - somebody else does.
We all know deep down he's not an idiot but in many ways his actions make him look it. Even an idiot has the ability to learn from his mistakes. If Wenger isn't an idiot but doesn't learn from his mistakes then that would suggest he is knowingly making the wrong decisions for other reasons. If these reasons are based on his arrogance & not wanting to change his ideals, then it becomes personal & Arsenal Football Club should not be allowed to be Wenger's toy.
I genuinely think he's surprised when things go wrong. He's not an idiot, but he will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, and blame anything but himself. It's not because he is unwilling to accept he's wrong, it's just that to his mind it SHOULD have gone right, rather than wrong.
He doesn't understand why it's gone tits up, because balance of probability should have won him that game vs West Ham. What Wenger doesn't understand is the game itself. He sees it as a mixture of art and maths, rather than sport. In sport you have to respect your opposition, and not assume pureness wins over all.
He's a fucking lunatic is what he is. It's sad, because it must eat him up inside. He hates losing to himself basically.
Last edited by LDG; 14-08-2015 at 03:50 PM.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
We will be respectful to our game, yes.
If there is a chance to be obstinate and inflexible, we will do it.
Are there internal solutions to improve our game? I don't know solution.
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