Wenger Referendum IV

[Niall_Quinn]

Patient? Restrained? Do you read the posts on here?! It's that sort of thing I'm talking about.

Have you been reading what Wenger has been saying about the fans? What does he expect? He needs to take some responsibility. He's been given fair credit for the win yesterday and the new records he's set, but he also needs to own the other stuff too and not be looking to palm that off.

[Letters]

Well, he's said that it's been hard at times playing in a hostile atmosphere - obviously true, but it has to be acknowledged that our and his ineptitude at time caused that atmosphere.
And he's saying now he thinks the level of disrespect has been disgraceful - I agree with that.
We've failed to challenge for the biggest prizes but he's won 3 FA Cups in 4 seasons, it's not been all bad and I think the level of criticism has been OTT at times.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Again the term OTT is your opinion and I don't agree but your entitled to it

Disgraceful? Please evidence what you find disgraceful. Whether I agree with everything that is said is one thing but there aren't any heavily personal comments about the guy, it's all directed at how he does his job.

What I find disgraceful is eight defeats in eighteen league games and four defeats in a row away from home, with two 5-1 drubbings to Bayern Munich to boot.

The FA cup is without doubt a nice trophy to win, and I haven't seen any Chelsea fan even pretend not to care that they lost yesterday. But there is something fundamentally very wrong with the way Wenger is managing the club. And what's abundantly clear is that he has far too much power for one man, and seems to resent the club trying to check his power.....that can't end well.

The run from late January to April really made you wonder if he'd lost the dressing room and whether wholesale changes were needed to playing personnel

Whatever happens on Tuesday there needs to be an inquest about what happened for about three months, and Wenger blaming other people for uncertainty over his future as well as the fans is simply not acceptable.

[Letters]

Disgraceful? Please evidence what you find disgraceful. Whether I agree with everything that is said is one thing but there aren't any heavily personal comments about the guy, it's all directed at how he does his job.

Come on. There has been loads of stuff like this:

No leaders, because they are a threat to the Mighty CUNT Wenger, no hope, because the inspirational CUNT Wenger smashed that years ago. We all know what happens when a Wenger inspired team with Wenger spirit comes up against a half decent opponent, or even a well organised pub outfit. Wenger has not only destroyed this club, he's destroyed each individual in it. He's a fucking cancer. Virulent. Remorseless. Everything he toucthes turns to shit.

You're saying that isn't personal? There's been talk about how he doesn't love the club, is only in it for the money or to protect the board. Some of it has been pretty personal about his character.
And I agree, our results at times have been pretty disgraceful given our squad and resources. It seems something has gone on in the club this year, one day I'm sure we'll read his autobiography and maybe that will reveal more.
I have consistently said I still think Wenger should go. He has failed to challenge for the biggest prizes - I could forgive that when the stadium repayments were hampering us but we're past that now and while the FA Cups have been nice we have repeatedly failed in the PL and CL. I hope he goes now on his own terms with 3 FA Cups in 4 years which surely seal his legacy as our best ever manager. If he doesn't and we fail AGAIN to challenge in the PL then on his own head be it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Again over the top but not disgraceful

I don't think he's motivated by money either but to question whether that is a motivation when it appears at time he's not doing everything in his power to push the club on is not an unfair statement.

Plus like I say this is a message board, I don't think you can expect the kind of high brow discourse all the time sometimes it's a good vent for frustration...and there is no one more frustrating than Arsene Wenger. The FA cup yesterday was frustrating, because it's like if you are capable of playing like that, what the fuck has been wrong with you the rest of the season?

[Niall_Quinn]

Are you saying Wenger has been scanning forums and Twitter? Don't talk shit.

What he means by "disgraceful" is fans holding up banners and directing lasers onto building, or flying planes above the stadium. Wenger is 100% detached from the fans, you can easily tell that from the shit he talks about them. And it's THAT shit which he is shovelling that has caused people to lose all respect for him. Wenger started this, not the fans. The real issue here is his total refusal to take responsibility for his ongoing fuck-ups and his disgusting tendency to blame the fans for his own failings.

It's beyond belief you (or anyone) would fall into his little sob story after another season where his team got annihilated in both major competitions. Not just beaten, but annihilated. Total, utter failure. And what has he said? The fans are to blame and it's disgraceful that people are pissed at him after all these seasons of him fucking up.

Give me a break.

This guy needs to go right now, while he has somehow managed to salvage an ounce of credibility. But he won't go. So this is all going to get a whole lot worse and it is 100% his fault.

[Niall_Quinn]

No leaders, because they are a threat to the Mighty CUNT Wenger, no hope, because the inspirational CUNT Wenger smashed that years ago. We all know what happens when a Wenger inspired team with Wenger spirit comes up against a half decent opponent, or even a well organised pub outfit. Wenger has not only destroyed this club, he's destroyed each individual in it. He's a fucking cancer. Virulent. Remorseless. Everything he toucthes turns to shit.

That sounds like me, but just in case it isn't, I agree with it 100%

[Niall_Quinn]

I spent maybe 5 years avoiding calling him a cunt. But as soon as he started with his fan shite, he became a cunt. And so I now address him by his proper title.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Some people take the last 7-10 years of continuous disappointment and failures far more personally than maybe, they should.

Maybe you should take it with more of a pinch of salt though letters? People are entitled to have their say, and say what they like.

Maybe you shouldn't take it so personally yourself.

[Niall_Quinn]

Some people take the last 7-10 years of continuous disappointment and failures far more personally than maybe, they should.

Maybe you should take it with more of a pinch of salt though letters? People are entitled to have their say, and say what they like.

Maybe you shouldn't take it so personally yourself.

He's been defending Wenger all along. His tactic is to say, I agree he should go, and then he dives in and starts on anyone who says he should go. Covers his arse and then sticks his tongue right up Wenger's hole.