Good Bye RVP!

[Cripps_orig]

And when they buy Higuain and Cavani too he will play less.

And i never said Aguero would flop.

Hes better than both of them as well

Yes you did.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Hes better than both of them as well

Yes you did.

I said he might struggle in this league, hardly the same as flopping.

he might be better then both does not mean he start more games then them.

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Why does everyone say they can understand RvP going and he deserves silverware etc.

Yeah hes a great player, but this was his FIRST full season of playing for us. Before that it has been injury after injury and we've stood by him. He should show a bit of loyalty to us, if his fitness had of been a bit better over the years I think we would've won a lot more.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Why does everyone say they can understand RvP going and he deserves silverware etc.

Yeah hes a great player, but this was his FIRST full season of playing for us. Before that it has been injury after injury and we've stood by him. He should show a bit of loyalty to us, if his fitness had of been a bit better over the years I think we would've won a lot more.

Spot on.

Ive said before, he owes the club big time.

Dont care how good a player he is, the club stuck by him when others would have flogged him on to some obscure backwater pub team, like stoke or somewhere.

I know we are supposed to be classy arsenal fans and all that, but ffs, lets dump the soppy, romantic shit. RVP signs or he fucks off with two fingers up from every fan to wave him goodbye!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why does everyone say they can understand RvP going and he deserves silverware etc.

Yeah hes a great player, but this was his FIRST full season of playing for us. Before that it has been injury after injury and we've stood by him. He should show a bit of loyalty to us, if his fitness had of been a bit better over the years I think we would've won a lot more.

That line of thought predicates on there being no fault of the medical staff/physios at the club and personally, I would see that as unlikely.

If he is to stay it will be because he is 'the man' here and probably won't be anywhere else he'd realistically go to and also, that his kids and Bouchra are settled.

[Özim]

I said he might struggle in this league, hardly the same as flopping.

he might be better then both does not mean he start more games then them.

Surely struggling = flopping?

Anyhow he's a top talent and his first season has been pretty good.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Surely struggling = flopping?

No.

Struggling would mean that he could still score goals but find it difficult to maintain over a full season and maybe say as much.

Flopping would mean that he was complete shite and couldnt score for toffee.

There is a clear difference.

[IBK]

That line of thought predicates on there being no fault of the medical staff/physios at the club and personally, I would see that as unlikely.

If he is to stay it will be because he is 'the man' here and probably won't be anywhere else he'd realistically go to and also, that his kids and Bouchra are settled.

We all know that football is only the last season. Noone (least of all RVP's agents) will remember anything prior to August 2011. You are spot on re his reasons for staying. If he stays, it'll be because RVP has taken a conscious decision to stay at a club where he is unlikely to win a league title, rather than becasue we are likely to win anything.

Our big problem is that with Citeh; Real Madrid; Juve - RVP is more or less guaranteed to win things.

Being our captain has IMHO improved RVP's game, but he is such quality that I think he would prosper more or less anywhere.

I think that its more likely than not that he will leave us, and I think that that may well be the main reason we sorted Podolski so early. If he doesn;t sign and we get offers circa £20M I can see the club holding him to his contract - given the turmoil that was last Autumn. But if thelikes of Citeh offer £30M Arsenal will bite their hand off.

[Özim]

No.

Struggling would mean that he could still score goals but find it difficult to maintain over a full season and maybe say as much.

Flopping would mean that he was complete shite and couldnt score for toffee.

There is a clear difference.

Someone who cost that much but didn't score much would be considered a flop to be honest, just like Torres has been for Chelsea.

[Letters]

Ive said before, he owes the club big time.

I'd say delivering CL football for us repays a lot of that.