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Thread: The Arsenal v Bournemouth, Saturday 3 May, 5.30pm, Emirates Stadium (and on TV somewhere if people can be bothered to watch)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I wonder whether he will survive another season without a trophy. I don’t mean this year, I mean next. They have backed him financially with very little return.
    Big summer coming up.
    Yeah one more trophyless year and there will be big questions asked, if I was Arteta I might look for a move this summer before his bubble bursts entirely

    And if we win the CL he might jump ship anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Because we didn’t lose to Palace, Everton, Brentford

    And you’ve been crying out for us to play a significantly weakened team for weeks
    Different doesn't necessarily mean weaker

    If the first team is tired and saving themselves for a 'bigger' game that leads to a 'weakened' team anyway doesn't it?

    Especially compared with 'fringe' players who'd jump at the chance to get a start and do their damnest to keep their place in the team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Different doesn't necessarily mean weaker

    If the first team is tired and saving themselves for a 'bigger' game that leads to a 'weakened' team anyway doesn't it?

    Especially compared with 'fringe' players who'd jump at the chance to get a start and do their damnest to keep their place in the team
    The idea that the players were saving themselves for Wednesday is supposition.

    And yes it does mean weakened if you’re replacing first team players with those from the academy. Players who even if they were good enough have next to no experience at this level.

    The first team was played in more or less its entirety because we needed to win because the teams around us are closing in.

    The nerves I’ve mentioned are because the only team in the league we’ve beaten in over a month is Ipswich town. We can’t hold onto leads so a 1-0 lead made us nervous, we are as I’ve said a confidence team so we make mistakes when we are nervous.

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    As for fringe players. Who exactly

    Jorginho is injured, Calafiori is injured, you detest Zinchenko, Sterling im sorry but we really have persisted with him and it’s getting no better…his legs have gone…he’s finished at this level. So then we are left with Nwaneri…well no quarrel there id have played him today instead of Odegaard

    We don’t actually have that big a squad after the summer because we wanted to lighten the wage bill

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    ...and they have little experience because they're never given a chance, so it becomes a self-fulfiling prophecy

    If I was a manager I'd be rotating and switching things regualarly, giving everyone .minutes and keeping the opposition guessing

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    As for fringe players. Who exactly

    Jorginho is injured, Calafiori is injured, you detest Zinchenko, Sterling im sorry but we really have persisted with him and it’s getting no better…his legs have gone…he’s finished at this level. So then we are left with Nwaneri…well no quarrel there id have played him today instead of Odegaard

    We don’t actually have that big a squad after the summer because we wanted to lighten the wage bill
    Tierney, Nwaneri, NBO, Setford, Kabia, M'Hand, Nichols...

    I also wouldn't have loaned out Vieira, or certainly would have brought him back in January

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    Apparently Timber may not be fit for Weds, White got burned a few times today, don't fancy 90 mins of that v PSG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    ...and they have little experience because they're never given a chance, so it becomes a self-fulfiling prophecy

    If I was a manager I'd be rotating and switching things regualarly, giving everyone .minutes and keeping the opposition guessing
    And you’re not a football manager (and probably for good reason too….not to say I’d be any better)

    The reason Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri were promoted was because they were ear marked as being top players, a lot of the others on the bench only make the bench because of how thin the squad is

    And even with those two, it’s buttressed by them being surrounded by first team players. If you have a team of half fringe players and half academy players it’s the blind leading the blind

    Don’t get me wrong Arteta doesn’t rotate enough, but there’s degrees and when Claudio Ranieri was called the Tinkerman it wasn’t a moniker of respect (and ironically the biggest thing he won in his career was done with a largely settled XI week in, week out)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Tierney, Nwaneri, NBO, Setford, Kabia, M'Hand, Nichols...

    I also wouldn't have loaned out Vieira, or certainly would have brought him back in January
    That rather illustrates my point somewhat doesn’t it. Apart from Nwaneri who I’ve already said id have played…the only fringe player who you’ve listed is Tierney, the rest are all Hale Enders who have next to no first team experience (and I can’t help but feel that they only appear on the bench because of the amount of injuries we have, they are the unintended).

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    Excellent result. Because we also did badly in our other games before CL matches, it means we'll do really well on Wednesday. Bloody glad we didn't win this. It wouldn't do to carry a string of wins into the most important game of the season. Far better we are off form, losing matches.
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