Luis Suarez thread

[Niall_Quinn]

the suarez links accumulated after higuain. we spent nearly 2 whole months on higuain, spoke to his reps, agreed terms with him, spoke to madrid numerous times, and he ended up at napoli. we cocked it up. we could have had a world class player embedded into the team and we could have diverted our attention to a DM or CB with plenty of time left for other targets. this would have had little effect on the team going into the new season. but once again we're going into the new season in tatters, relying on one player to come and relying on negotiations with a club we've already pissed off. Shambles.

This is correct and this is how any half sane group of people tasked with building a title challenging squad would behave. But the arseholes at our place are incompetent at anything and everything bar building the financial value for shareholders, that's all the cunts do. Ten days until we kick off and then go into potentially tough CL qualifiers and they are still pissing around on a transfer that is 50/50 even in wildly optimistic estimates. Shambles is a very precise description of what's going on.

And by the way, even if we do land Suarez he can't play until October. Astounding incompetence.

[Grebbo]

the suarez links accumulated after higuain. we spent nearly 2 whole months on higuain, spoke to his reps, agreed terms with him, spoke to madrid numerous times, and he ended up at napoli. we cocked it up. we could have had a world class player embedded into the team and we could have diverted our attention to a DM or CB with plenty of time left for other targets. this would have had little effect on the team going into the new season. but once again we're going into the new season in tatters, relying on one player to come and relying on negotiations with a club we've already pissed off. Shambles.

1. I don't see how we cocked it up. RM jacked up the price of Higuain and we ultimately thought it made more sense to pay an extra £10m and go for Suarez instead.

2. Higuain is not world class. Better than Giroud, sure, better than Suarez? No way.

Ultimately when we don't buy Suarez we're going to be left trying to buy a striker as good as or better than Higuain. If we don't then I guess you can say we cocked it up then.

[selassie]

the suarez links accumulated after higuain. we spent nearly 2 whole months on higuain, spoke to his reps, agreed terms with him, spoke to madrid numerous times, and he ended up at napoli. we cocked it up. we could have had a world class player embedded into the team and we could have diverted our attention to a DM or CB with plenty of time left for other targets. this would have had little effect on the team going into the new season. but once again we're going into the new season in tatters, relying on one player to come and relying on negotiations with a club we've already pissed off. Shambles.

Though I don't think Arsene has any serious intentions of buying a DM, I think he would like one but only at a price that meets his "valuation", same applies to a CB. This for me is one of the reasons why we are so slow in the market.

[Özim]

1. I don't see how we cocked it up. RM jacked up the price of Higuain and we ultimately thought it made more sense to pay an extra £10m and go for Suarez instead.

2. Higuain is not world class. Better than Giroud, sure, better than Suarez? No way.

Ultimately when we don't buy Suarez we're going to be left trying to buy a striker as good as or better than Higuain. If we don't then I guess you can say we cocked it up then.

You don't think people are going a bit over the top with Suarez seeing as he's really only had one very good season in England, whereas Higuain has scored a tonne of goals for Madrid consistently?

[Niall_Quinn]

1. I don't see how we cocked it up. RM jacked up the price of Higuain and we ultimately thought it made more sense to pay an extra £10m and go for Suarez instead.

2. Higuain is not world class. Better than Giroud, sure, better than Suarez? No way.

Ultimately when we don't buy Suarez we're going to be left trying to buy a striker as good as or better than Higuain. If we don't then I guess you can say we cocked it up then.

We should have three new signings in key positions bedded in after a good pre-season and ready for the kick off in 10 days. Instead we have Wenger moaning on about it being tough this year and asking for patience. Patience after 8 years of shite. Nah, I for one am just fucked off now. Enough is enough, this lot aren't fit to run a tap never mind a football club that's supposedly challenging for honours. We'll have to wait till they all fuck off, Wenger included, before anything has a chance of changing.

Just for once, why couldn't they give the fans, the players, football in general something positive connected to the club rather than the usual comedy material?

[Özim]

the suarez links accumulated after higuain. we spent nearly 2 whole months on higuain, spoke to his reps, agreed terms with him, spoke to madrid numerous times, and he ended up at napoli. we cocked it up. we could have had a world class player embedded into the team and we could have diverted our attention to a DM or CB with plenty of time left for other targets. this would have had little effect on the team going into the new season. but once again we're going into the new season in tatters, relying on one player to come and relying on negotiations with a club we've already pissed off. Shambles.

Completely agree and not only would we have a world class player integrated in the team and been able to focus on signing other players, but we'd also have a player available from day one of the new season.

[Özim]

We should have three new signings in key positions bedded in after a good pre-season and ready for the kick off in 10 days. Instead we have Wenger moaning on about it being tough this year and asking for patience. Patience after 8 years of shite. Nah, I for one am just fucked off now. Enough is enough, this lot aren't fit to run a tap never mind a football club that's supposedly challenging for honours. We'll have to wait till they all fuck off, Wenger included, before anything has a chance of changing.

Just for once, why couldn't they give the fans, the players, football in general something positive connected to the club rather than the usual comedy material?

Spot on, it's been a joke of a summer even if we get Suarez, where's the planning and logic in this?

We've not go anyone integrated into the squad, no players getting use to their surroundings and getting to know their teammates, instead we've put all our efforts into a chase for a troublemaker banned for 6 games who will probably leave in a year or two and who will cost megamoney, very clever.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

1. I don't see how we cocked it up. RM jacked up the price of Higuain and we ultimately thought it made more sense to pay an extra £10m and go for Suarez instead.

2. Higuain is not world class. Better than Giroud, sure, better than Suarez? No way.

Ultimately when we don't buy Suarez we're going to be left trying to buy a striker as good as or better than Higuain. If we don't then I guess you can say we cocked it up then.

1. i told you how we cocked it up. we had everything in place then it went tits up, that's cocking it up. as NQ says, there is no systematic plan to our transfers. it was a case of 'bid for him and him, oh and him... oh hang on... he's also available... fuck it back out of them and just go for him'. no thought went into the current squad, the effect it would have on them going into the new season with no new players etc. sure madrid slammed £10m onto the price at the end but there's ways of negotiating around that i.e. instalments, persuasion techniques. you dont just walk away from negotiations when someone revalues a good, you offer to negotiate further. but of the things i read we completely backed out. literally packed our bags and walked away, giving room for other teams like napoli to negotiate and get the player in an instance. its funny how we do the ground work for players then for one 'reason' or another it never works out, only for other teams to swipe in and get them. mata another example, a complete cock up. and why the hell did it take so long to finally negotiate terms? if we done it in a few weeks i doubt madrid would have hiked the price. they saw there was no movement in europe and that every top team needed a striker so thought 'you know what, we'll increase his price because demand + supply warrants it'. they are entitled to do that. if you wrap the deal up early july you dont leave room for the market to dictate terms.

2. higuain is world class. they are both world class. you dont have to devalue one to make your argument better. suarez has more to his game but you can't say higuain is not world class. look at his world class record. would i rather have suarez? sure. but id rather have higuain + fellaini than suarez. if we sign suarez we wont sign anyone else, the whole lot is blown.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

We should have three new signings in key positions bedded in after a good pre-season and ready for the kick off in 10 days. Instead we have Wenger moaning on about it being tough this year and asking for patience. Patience after 8 years of shite. Nah, I for one am just fucked off now. Enough is enough, this lot aren't fit to run a tap never mind a football club that's supposedly challenging for honours. We'll have to wait till they all fuck off, Wenger included, before anything has a chance of changing.

Just for once, why couldn't they give the fans, the players, football in general something positive connected to the club rather than the usual comedy material?

bang on.

[Power n Glory]

Unless Wenger pulls off some Michael Corleone, Godfather finale, taking care of business in one day swoop movement, this summer has been a disaster. It seems as though there has been no planning or strategy involved at all. It's like we have one man and his briefcase taking care of all transfer dealings and can only do one deal at a time. Signing Suarez will amount to nothing if we're hit with injuries that cripple our defence. I'd expect the Suarez deal to be drawn out but it doesn't excuse the lack of movement in other key areas.