Samir "The Weasel" Nasri - The Epitome of Wenger's Failings!!!

[gunsofashburtongrove]

What's the load o crap? The fact that we didn't tie up his contract earlier and act earlier when he was stalling? The fact that we've seen this happen in our team before and that we've actually captialised off players delaying contract talks ourselves? The player is scum, no doubt but how many times can you get done like this before you start putting procedures in order to make sure it doesn't happen again? We knew Nasri had potential and is worth a bit on the Market, so shouldn't we make sure we protect our major assets? On the pitch he may be lukewarm at times but his Market value is pretty high. At least £15m but with a year left on his contract we've screwed ourselves. Even from a business sense it's naive.

The club did try to get him to sign a contract, there is not much that the club can do and the contract will be signed only if the player wants. The club can however sell him to cash in, but this can be done only when the window opens which is now. Don't think the club could have handled this particular case better. however the fact that we developed an image of a club that will not win anything equipping players to bargain for insane wages or leave for clubs who guarantee trophies. Looks like every time we resist big investment we are digging ourselves into a bigger hole.

[Power n Glory]

The wage structure is like some communist regime. Pay everyone a similar wage so everyone feels equal and no one feels like their being mistreated. It's supposed to enhance team harmony! It does the opposite.

[AKBapologist]

I'm almost certain that if we got a new manager, not only would he have to continue the same wage policy, Wenger at his new club (assuming it was a big one) wouldn't. We're pretty much clinging on to the hope of UFEA's fair play rules evening the playing field. If it doesn't, we're fucked.

[Cripps_orig]

Why is everything that goes wrong with Arsenal always Wengers fault.

Whats he supposed to do, force him to sign a contract? Maybe Wenger should get a little credit for finding Nasri for less than we sold Hleb for, who most ppl on here thought was our best player for most of last season, and made it into the PFA team of the season.

It would suck to lose Nasri but he's hardly acted as badly as alot of premiership players recently (Rooney anyone?). I think he'l sign eventually but it aint Wengers fault if the guys a cunt.

Because hes the manager.

Force him? No but you can see why players want to leave and not play under a manager who doesnt have a clue. Nasri had a good couple of months indeed and then disappeared.

Is this the same Rooney who signed a new contract at Man Utd and is going to stay there for quite some time? Good comparison

[Power n Glory]

The club did try to get him to sign a contract, there is not much that the club can do and the contract will be signed only if the player wants. The club can however sell him to cash in, but this can be done only when the window opens which is now. Don't think the club could have handled this particular case better. however the fact that we developed an image of a club that will not win anything equipping players to bargain for insane wages or leave for clubs who guarantee trophies. Looks like every time we resist big investment we are digging ourselves into a bigger hole.

Do you think we left Cesc with a year to go on his contract? Was Rooney down to his last two years when Manure were trying to get him to sign a new one? If we started negotiating early before he hits the 24 month mark and he didn't want to sign, you sell him because another year won't make a difference. Unless, you think winning a trophy will change his mind. We took a major gamble and we really should be signing players to 4/5 year deals instead of 3.

[selassie]

I'm almost certain that if we got a new manager, not only would he have to continue the same wage policy, Wenger at his new club (assuming it was a big one) wouldn't. We're pretty much clinging on to the hope of UFEA's fair play rules evening the playing field. If it doesn't, we're fucked.

It's Wenger's policy, it wasn't enforced on him. He wouldn't get away with it anywhere else.

[AKBapologist]

Do you think we left Cesc with a year to go on his contract? Was Rooney down to his last two years when Manure were trying to get him to sign a new one? If we started negotiating early before he hits the 24 month mark and he didn't want to sign, you sell him because another year won't make a difference. Unless, you think winning a trophy will change his mind. We took a major gamble and we really should be signing players to 4/5 year deals instead of 3.

And when they flop AW inevitably gets blamed for it too? Can't really win tbh.

This wouldn't be a problem if we just went ahead and replaced Nasri with Hazard - but we can't, we slide backwards for a season or two and that's the bigger problem imo and if you want to blame AW for anything, this is it.

[AKBapologist]

It's Wenger's policy, it wasn't enforced on him. He wouldn't get away with it anywhere else.

It's a policy agreed between him and the club. AW's regularly talked about how we wouldn't mind freely spending money - AST all say financial restrictions are imposed on the board.

[gunsofashburtongrove]

My two pence on what happened with Tavez,Cronaldo at Manure. Along with Rooney they had three forwards who all had to be regular first teamer, which was not possible unless they played three upfront all the time(they tried doing that for most part of that season). Add to that the ego that top players have. For all top team you need at least 3 players for each position and in the team you need to mix it with players who are at their prime, a bit past it and the young ones. Unless you do this there will always going to be players who want to leave. That said when Tavez and Cronaldo left Red nose handled it well, he got the dope and then went and bought an often poor Berbatov (being the top scorer this season) and Valencia, and augmented it further with technically average goal machine in Hernandez.

[selassie]

It's a policy agreed between him and the club. AW's regularly talked about how we wouldn't mind freely spending money - AST all say financial restrictions are imposed on the board.

I don't see the link between our current policy and freely spending money/financial restrictions. Nobody is asking for the club to bring in players who all want huge wages.

At the end of the day the money is distributed the way it is. There's no difference between paying 1 player 124k per week or 2 players £62k per week, give or take bonuses etc.

Wenger has a budget for salaries and distributes it the way he wants to. What's stopping him from shipping out 2 or 3 non playing under performers who are on healthy salaries in order to bring in 1 quality player on a good salary?

Our squad is bloated as it is, and bloated with a lot of dross might I add.

Why did we even need to change our wage structure? To secure the best young talent maybe? What other reasons?

As P&G stated, albeit with sarcasm...our wage structure it's like some communist regime.