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    Squad Analysis

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    http://www.premierleague.com/page/He...094341,00.html


    Information derived from a list of sources including
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal...rst-team_squad
    http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players
    http://www.premierleague.com
    http://www.skysports.com/football/tr...201107,00.html

    (strike outs donate players who have declared there intentions to, or are likely to leave this season, grey indicate players who are speculated to leave.)
    Homegrown players over the age of 21
    Nicklas Bendtner
    Denilson
    Johan Djourou
    Cesc Fabregas
    Vito Mannone
    Gael Clichy
    Alex Song
    Carlos Vela
    Theo Walcott
    Armand Traore
    Kieran Gibbs

    Non homegrown players
    Manuel Almunia
    Andrey Arshavin
    Marouane Chamakh
    Abou Diaby
    Emmanuel Eboue
    Lukasz Fabianski
    Laurent Koscielny
    Samir Nasri
    Tomas Rosicky
    Bacary Sagna
    Robin Van Persie
    Thomas Vermaelen
    Sebastien Squillaci

    Under 21's looking to break into the first team (Age by Jan 1st 2012, Players with a first team contract in bold)
    Benik Afobe (18)
    Chuks Aneke (18)
    Kyle Bartley (20)
    Ryo Myachi (18)
    Francis Coquelin (20)
    Craig Eastmond (21)
    Jay Emmanuel-Thomas (21)
    Emmanuel Frimpong (19)
    Conor Henderson (20)
    Gavin Hoyte (21)
    Henri Lansbury (20)
    Aaron Ramsey (21)
    Wojciech Szczesny (21)
    Sanchez Watt (20)
    Jack Wilshere (19)
    Carl Jenkinson (19)
    Welington (18)
    Ignasi Miquel (18)

    (of note)
    Hector Bellerin (16)
    Jon Toral (16)


    Home Grown Players Total: 11 (At least 8 is required in a 25 man squad)
    Home Grown Players minus likely departures: 7

    None-homegrown players: 13 (17 is the limit)
    None-Homegrown players minus likely departures: 9

    Current Squad size: 24
    Current squad size minus likely departures: 16


    Size?
    Last season, we were 4 senior players short of our quota, relying on players like walcott and whilshire for major parts of the season. In addition, Vermaelen was out for the entire season reducing the effective senior squad size to 20, far, far less than our rivals. For me, this more than anything else (metal strength, experience etc etc) was the reason why we ran out of steam towards the business end of last season.

    This season could potentially see us lose 10 from our senior squad! That is the worst case scenario, but even if only half that many left, it would be Arsenals biggest overhaul of the senior squad in a single season during the EPL era.

    It's a tricky picture to balance, one the one hand - if you wanted to be as ruthless as possible, you would make sure you filled your 25 senior squad members. But at Arsenal, we have to consider the 5 who will no longer be under 21 before the start of the 2012/2013 next season, 4 of which are on senior contracts already and two of which are first team regulars.


    What's the maximum number of players we could buy this summer?
    With the current squad size of 24, and with Ramsey and Szczesny a season away from joining the senior portion of the squad, we'd realistically have to sell 2 players before we could receive any new additions.

    However, with the list of leavers this season anywhere between 4 and 8 players long, there could certainly be room for a whole host of signings. For instance, given the now, very likely scenario of Bendtner, Denilson, Fabregas, Clichy, Almunia and Nasri, our squad could comfortably afford room for 4 new signings.


    What do we need to strengthen?
    There is no real easy answer to this. The questions you must first ask before producing priorities include, Quality or Quantity? How will we be set up to play? How will we rotate? Who from the reserves or under 21's can you realistically count on to do a job? Most of these questions are highly subjective however consensus does points towards a darth of quality in two key areas:
    - A defender with EPL experience, good in the air and potentially an improvement over any we currently have.
    - A striker, as good as RVP or better.

    With likely departures considered however, it's likely we'd need to strengthen in every area of the pitch.

    In addition, if many reports are deemed to believed, AW may be either changing or adding to the style of play, with wing play, crossing and pace being a higher priority. Which may explain our interest for players such as Mata, Gervinho, Hazard, Willian, De Costa and Falcao, who either play as advanced wingers, or with them.


    All in all, AW must not, and probably can not use the lack of departures this season as an excuse for not signing quality players. Players that no longer desire to remain at the club may as well be ushered out, as beyond squad harmony, we are unable to strengthen without player departures. And then age old question remains however - will AW bring in the required quality in a transfer market gone mad?

    In less than 6 weeks we will find out.
    Last edited by AKBapologist; 03-07-2011 at 02:34 PM.

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    Less than 6 weeks.

    We need our transfers done and dusted asap cos with the start we have, we'll need them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Less than 6 weeks.

    We need our transfers done and dusted asap cos with the start we have, we'll need them
    0 point in 3 games, you can bet your house on it.
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    I guess reasoned, researched analysis is wasted on you lot here in GW.

    Meanwhile, clichy pretty much backs up the main thrust of the above.

    Former Gunner Gael Clichy says it was the lack of squad depth that cost Arsenal the chance of silverware last season.

    Speaking to Manchester City’s official site, Clichy spoke about his final season at the Emirates, saying, “It started well, just like the team, but then it just collapsed at the end of the season after the cup final”.

    And he attributes the failure to lack of competition for places and an inability to cope with key absences. “That’s why you can see the importance of having a big squad because we had a few players who were out. And of course it’s difficult for a team to cope without Robin van Persie and Cesc Fabregas at the same time.

    “You know, sometimes it’s difficult to have a lot of players, because the competition is hard, but as a team you need a big squad to go all the way, and that’s why I joined City”.

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    Very interesting & youve done some good researching there. It is very worrying if a lot of the players leave, even if we did buy like mad the newbies would have to bed in unless by some miracle they click straight away.

    Wenger is his own worst enemy, if he bought more established players when we needed them we wouldnt have so many 'want aways'!

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    Interesting analysis - that highlights some of the less obvious issues that AW is having to consider ATM. Having said that I am pretty confident that there will be at least a couple of new signings and that at least 5 of the 6 first teamers you have identified will be leaving this Summer...so I think your conclusion will probably be taken on board. Whether the new signings will be of the quality we need however is anyone's guess.

    As for Clichy's comments. Total B/S. RVP was around for most of the run in. Cesc was missing for some of it - but it was his lack of form when he did play rather than his absence that was more of a factor. Our squad was plenty big enough last season. The players just didn't perform, is all.
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    Nah, strength in depth was lacking. Our subs were v poor for the entire season and rarely inspired a change in performance unless large numbers I'd the 1st 11 where on the bench. Eg CC vs Leeds, huddesfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    Nah, strength in depth was lacking. Our subs were v poor for the entire season and rarely inspired a change in performance unless large numbers I'd the 1st 11 where on the bench. Eg CC vs Leeds, huddesfield.
    I disagree. Many of the key games we lost or dropped points in had enough 1st team members to cope. Its your 'go to' guys not your backups that you depend on for inspiration at the end of the day and the likes of Arshavin, Fabregas, Rosicky and for the second half of the season Nasri failed to live up to their reps. So did bendy (compared with his performances the season before) - but at least he can be a bit excused for playing out of position.
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    Nope, a first 11 on it's own won't pull it out of the bag all the time. As united showed, Rooney not doing so well? Throw in Berbatov, Hernandez or Owen as they did countless times coming back from behind.

    We haven't had that strength in depth in our attacking lineup since edwardos legs where snapped.

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    I agree, our strength in depth is non-existent. We have a big squad but the simple fact is that there is no one outside the first 11 who is capable of making an impact when needed, whether that is by making the most of sub appearances, or by stepping in for 3-4 games due to injuries or suspensions. When we bring on shite like Bendtner, Chamakh and Rosicky you don't really hold any hope of a game turning around.

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