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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    You lot.
    You lot!
    I’m not even in a “lot”

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    The thing I’m least looking forward to over the next four years will be the media obsessiveness on silly things

    For example, no one believes Elon Musk did a Nazi salute. Why has it gained so much coverage? The only slight bit of relevance is that it confirms that the worlds richest man is a weird socially awkward guy who needs to knock off the ketamine and at least try to get six hours of sleep a night. What was far stranger to me was how he moved about on stage in such a stilted way, he looked like a Gerry Anderson puppet

    This is the kind of banal stuff that’s fit for discussion on here, not to be focused on by CNN, BBC News etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    This is the kind of banal stuff that’s fit for discussion on here
    Ooh good. Thanks!
    I mean...it was a weird gesture but weird is his whole thing, so...
    I do think Trump is a wannabe dictator, but he's not going to be able to pull it off in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Ooh good. Thanks!
    I mean...it was a weird gesture but weird is his whole thing, so...
    I do think Trump is a wannabe dictator, but he's not going to be able to pull it off in the US.
    I always think calling Trump a dictator or a wannabe dictator is uncharitable to dictators. The actual work they do in order to keep themselves in power would be admirable if it wasn’t so corrupt and monstrous. Trump is the product of a childhood where he wasn’t hit enough or told No enough. Fascism for example is to create an expansionist military society, for Mussolini who coined the term it was about recreating the Roman Empire (which was unfortunate as Fascist Italy became a puppet state for the Nazis), take away silly things like Greenland and Trump’s philosophy is far more isolationist and not wanting to get involved in what he regards as foreign wars

    Trump comes from the business world where he isn’t restrained by checks and balances, and he’s too ignorant to understand the checks and balances put out by the constitutional and that his executive orders have as much authority as all office Memos.

    Anyone who seeks Power usually seeks it for a Purpose, Trump it’s because he needs to feel powerful

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    I always think calling Trump a dictator or a wannabe dictator is uncharitable to dictators.


    He doesn't have the ability to do it of course. I just mean that yes, as you say he just wants to be powerful. And I think he'd ideally like to be in charge for as long as he wants to be without any of this election nonsense. And as you say he's constantly frustrated by the checks and balances and would like those to be removed if he could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    He doesn't have the ability to do it of course. I just mean that yes, as you say he just wants to be powerful. And I think he'd ideally like to be in charge for as long as he wants to be without any of this election nonsense. And as you say he's constantly frustrated by the checks and balances and would like those to be removed if he could.
    But Im pretty sure that’s probably true of most politicians to an extent, the only real difference is whilst some of them try workarounds of said checks and balances…they ultimately accept why they are in place.

    I’m also not sure Trump wouldn’t want elections, for someone who desperately craves affirmation what better than a popularity contest. Plus The reason why Trump tried to overturn the election was less about having to give up power, it was about having to accept he had lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    “ Trump pardons nearly 1,600 Capitol riot defendants as he signs first orders of presidency”



    Agreed
    But it’s expected that trump would do that and democrats have attacked him, well back in 2020, for abusing the pardons and indeed even over thought he may pardon himself and all family in advance before leaving. Trump didn’t do that but Biden did.

    It means now when trump likely does pardon his family, democrats have little answer as Biden did it not just for his family yesterday but also his own son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    But it’s expected that trump would do that and democrats have attacked him, well back in 2020, for abusing the pardons and indeed even over thought he may pardon himself and all family in advance before leaving. Trump didn’t do that but Biden did.

    It means now when trump likely does pardon his family, democrats have little answer as Biden did it not just for his family yesterday but also his own son.
    OK.
    So both sides abuse an objectively bullshit system - presidents shouldn't be able to unilaterally pardon people like they're sodding emperors.
    It doesn't exactly feed into his promise to "drain the swamp".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    “ Trump pardons nearly 1,600 Capitol riot defendants as he signs first orders of presidency”



    Agreed
    Yeah Trump pardoned people convicted and in prison.

    Biden pre-emptively pardoning people for things they haven't yet been caught doing. If you can't see the difference your even dumber than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    But it’s expected that trump would do that and democrats have attacked him, well back in 2020, for abusing the pardons and indeed even over thought he may pardon himself and all family in advance before leaving. Trump didn’t do that but Biden did.

    It means now when trump likely does pardon his family, democrats have little answer as Biden did it not just for his family yesterday but also his own son.
    Trump has integrity and a respect for the rule of law and judicial system. Biden clearly does not.

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