Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I hate to use the word obtuse again, but ironically for someone who thinks they are playing 3-D chess when the rest of us are playing snakes and ladders…it seems rather crudely on display here
I hate to use the word obtuse again, but ironically for someone who thinks they are playing 3-D chess when the rest of us are playing snakes and ladders…it seems rather crudely on display here
So it's my fault we are selling him?
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Here you go friend, lose yourself in the nostalgia. Don’t concern yourself with a modern game you don’t even watch. Though of course if you take the evidence of the Dullard who thinks he understands the working class because he did a course about them (though I give him credit, that’s the only time he’s ever made me laugh) watching the game gives you no guarantee of understanding the game
I love (not) the way you twist arguments around to suit your latest post - you said I didn't know what working class means (not whether i 'understood' working class people - i do because i'm basically one myself), so in order to pander to your pathetic accusations i produced actual real-world proof that i did
leaving aside I myself grew up in a working class area and went to an inner city state school ofc
Sweet, I'll watch that. Thanks.
Might watch Rice's MOTM performance against the gypos while I'm at it.
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It’s a distinction without a difference, you don’t understand the working class because you seemingly can’t identify them (even with the benefit of a sociology course). But I see we are inching closer to the truth, the belief that if you grow up working class it’s a honorific title you carry throughout your life. Don’t get me wrong my dear Father who is fantastically intelligent in his grasp of maths and science (which he didn’t pass onto me) doesn’t seem to understand that growing up on a council estate in Pentonville doesn’t mean you’re working class when you can buy your own property in an affluent area and work in a white collar job. Yes there is a cultural element to working class as well as the economic one, but again equally my Dad is about as culturally working class as you are (that’s why I thought it was hilarious to get that waste of space Farage to make that video for him)
So yes if by working class you mean people that have come from humble beginnings but seemingly are too silly or burdened with guilt to rejoice in the fact that they’ve managed to gain social mobility so that they have to cosplay and pretend that they are still working class (Ken Loach types) then yes that’s exactly the type of people you might see at Labour Party meetings. Along with types like Tony Benn who spent his life in perpetual mental agony for being born into privilege.
But the fact that you talk about coming from the inner city and going to a comprehensive like it was some immense hardship tells me precisely how middle class you actually are now. It’s like every time you try to prove me wrong about yourself you only provide me evidence for how I was correct to begin with
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 03-02-2025 at 06:01 PM.
Maybe you can compare and contrast that with other games where we struggle to break down teams that don’t give us the space Man City did and identify why our build up play is so slow
TLDR, but the point is still that you're still wrong about Labour members, because if my car was red (which it isn't) I'd know it was red no matter how many times you told me it was green, because it would be outside my front door and I could actually see itIt’s a distinction without a difference, you don’t understand the working class because you seemingly can’t identify them (even with the benefit of a sociology course
So yes if by working class you mean people that have come from humble beginnings but seemingly are too silly or burdened with guilt to rejoice in the fact that they’ve managed to gain social mobility so that they have to cosplay and pretend that they are still working class (Ken Loach types) then yes that’s exactly the type of people you might see at Labour Party meetings. Along with types like Tony Benn who spent his life in perpetual mental agony for being born into privilege.
But the fact that you talk about coming from the inner city and going to a comprehensive like it was some immense hardship tells me precisely how middle class you actually are now. It’s like every time you try to prove me wrong about yourself you only provide me evidence for how I was correct to begin with
So stop wasting your time
In this analogy, it would suggest you were colour blindand
You’re right though I am wasting my time, because I know you’re wrong. Just as I know you wouldn’t admit (probably not even to yourself). Just a bit much when you think you can tell someone who was actually a member of said party that you know better than them the makeup of other members.
I left the party because of Corbyn (well he was last straw) but also because I didn’t like the middle class political hobbyists who cut their teeth watching Ken Loach misery porn (and this was even the case when Blair was leader). The people who as I keep repeatedly telling you identify as working class because like you claimed they came from a family that only had the one car, couldn’t afford to go on holiday abroad and went to a comprehensive.
They aren’t blue collar workers in heavy industry because these jobs don’t exist anymore, they aren’t working in the new working class jobs in hospitality or retail. They are professional classes, civil servants, local elected politicians or people in managerial roles in the charity sector.
So yeah if you see green as red that’s on you
Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 03-02-2025 at 09:55 PM.
Rice is getting some love from Gary Neville and his incoherent scouser mate. Being a true captain he broke up Skelly's disrespectful epic burn of Haaland and Gary approves.
It's nice when one of our players gets some credit so another one of our players can be slagged off for the second day running.
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