What now for Walcott?

[Niall_Quinn]

people are getting wrapped up in this money issue when the rumours seem to revolve around where he is played on the pitch, rather than wages.

So for £100K per week he'll put up with playing wide? Give him £110K and stick him in goal. Give him £120K and ask him to make the tea. Sounds like it's all about the money - he wants to be on par with those steaming turds who get big bucks failing for England. At least that's the tune on the merry-go-round. It's all a mass of lies, bullshit, greed and crocodile tears and cupboard love anyway, isn't it. Not a scrap of loyalty, gratitude or respect for the fans in any of the ****s.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

That was 2 years ago.

Walcott's best position is the position in which we play him.

Pretty much.

[GP]

Pretty much.

:gp:

[gooners]

any better reasons for chamakh and park to be preferred upfront? errrm; no. cant think of any

[Kano]

So for £100K per week he'll put up with playing wide? Give him £110K and stick him in goal. Give him £120K and ask him to make the tea. Sounds like it's all about the money - he wants to be on par with those steaming turds who get big bucks failing for England. At least that's the tune on the merry-go-round. It's all a mass of lies, bullshit, greed and crocodile tears and cupboard love anyway, isn't it. Not a scrap of loyalty, gratitude or respect for the fans in any of the ****s.

probably no loyalty, i wont disagree about that - none of the fuckers have.

but clearly the message from the club about his development has not been mirrored with a change on the pitch, so something has to give, seeing as walcott sees himself as a striker.

there is more substance to that idea than anything to do with money at the moment - at least there is evidence to back the theory rather than media telling us how it is. many many fans criticise the media for being bullshitters, yet will eat it all up when it suits.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

any better reasons for chamakh and park to be preferred upfront? errrm; no. cant think of any

They played in the cups did theo really need to play in the cups no not really.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

probably no loyalty, i wont disagree about that - none of the fuckers have.

but clearly the message from the club about his development has not been mirrored with a change on the pitch, so something has to give, seeing as walcott sees himself as a striker.

there is more substance to that idea than anything to do with money at the moment - at least there is evidence to back the theory rather than media bollocks.

Well maybe him agreeing to stay short term might see him playing upfront.

[gooners]

So for £100K per week he'll put up with playing wide? Give him £110K and stick him in goal. Give him £120K and ask him to make the tea. Sounds like it's all about the money - he wants to be on par with those steaming turds who get big bucks failing for England. At least that's the tune on the merry-go-round. It's all a mass of lies, bullshit, greed and crocodile tears and cupboard love anyway, isn't it. Not a scrap of loyalty, gratitude or respect for the fans in any of the ****s.

i think the money demands are just a way players force a club's hand tbh. Most of the time it is power play.

He probably knows damn well club wont pay him that!

[Kano]

Well maybe him agreeing to stay short term might see him playing upfront.

i think he's been waiting four years for that...

[Xhaka Can’t]

any better reasons for chamakh and park to be preferred upfront? errrm; no. cant think of any

They aren't playing up front.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

[gooners]

They aren't playing up front.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

though they are good for 50k and 70k a week :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

though they are good for 50k and 70k a week :lol:
Any other team and that would be hilarious.

[Power n Glory]

he is realistic enough to realise he won't play there every game (i can't find the quotes but he made them last season) and only wants the chance. i mean ffs, are cham and park that much better? seriously??

he gets it in the neck from everyone in the game, absolutely everyone. even the consistency he showed last season is forgotten very quickly and the lazy old 'he can only run' comments are thrown about.

well great, let's sell him too. sell the lot of em for fuck sake. it's just football manager after all, we'll be winning like barcelona in a couple of games...

That's the frustrating thing about the Theo debate because a lot of comments are made out o ignorance. People forget the important goals and runs very easily. He can be frustrating to watch and that's because he'a not a winger. He's better at finishing moves off as his stats suggest and not taking on his man and creating chances like a typical winger. Now you have people saying he's not good enough on the wings, doesn't deserve the wages yet unwilling to see what he has to offer up front. I think it's in his best interest to leave if he's getting mugged off because this is career suicide. His rep has taken a battering and it's down to how he's been managed. He shouldn't be playing on the flanks.

[Niall_Quinn]

probably no loyalty, i wont disagree about that - none of the fuckers have.

but clearly the message from the club about his development has not been mirrored with a change on the pitch, so something has to give, seeing as walcott sees himself as a striker.

there is more substance to that idea than anything to do with money at the moment - at least there is evidence to back the theory rather than media bollocks.

The media bollocks probably has a lot to do with making Walcott believe he's worth the cash. All that crap started when silly bollocks took a kid to warn the bench for England. Good experience apparently. More like the fast track to being a typical shithead. Whether he said it or not who knows, but the story goes he's worth £100K because that's the going rate for a senior England flop. Not because he's done the business onthe pitch, but because some other fuckwit has managed to swing a deal and Theo wants his. If he wants to play up front he needs to show he has the tools to do that. How many chances has he had? That little cameo for England recently won't have helped his delusions. Play him 100 times and he'll do that job once. Anyway, Walcott and his agent's arm stuck up his arsehole will call the shots, it'll be up to them what happens and it's hard to imagine they won't do what makes most sense financially. That's what it's all about these days.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

i think he's been waiting four years for that...

And yet has not moaned screams un happy player that. Shows he is not a big type player like rooney then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

though they are good for 50k and 70k a week :lol:

None of them get 70K a week.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The media bollocks probably has a lot to do with making Walcott believe he's worth the cash. All that crap started when silly bollocks took a kid to warn the bench for England. Good experience apparently. More like the fast track to being a typical shithead. Whether he said it or not who knows, but the story goes he's worth £100K because that's the going rate for a senior England flop. Not because he's done the business onthe pitch, but because some other fuckwit has managed to swing a deal and Theo wants his. If he wants to play up front he needs to show he has the tools to do that. How many chances has he had? That little cameo for England recently won't have helped his delusions. Play him 100 times and he'll do that job once. Anyway, Walcott and his agent's arm stuck up his arsehole will call the shots, it'll be up to them what happens and it's hard to imagine they won't do what makes most sense financially. That's what it's all about these days.

Spot on and all this he is being mugged off cause he did not got to play in the cc a a striker do me a favour.

[Kano]

The media bollocks probably has a lot to do with making Walcott believe he's worth the cash. All that crap started when silly bollocks took a kid to warn the bench for England. Good experience apparently. More like the fast track to being a typical shithead. Whether he said it or not who knows, but the story goes he's worth £100K because that's the going rate for a senior England flop. Not because he's done the business onthe pitch, but because some other fuckwit has managed to swing a deal and Theo wants his. If he wants to play up front he needs to show he has the tools to do that. How many chances has he had? That little cameo for England recently won't have helped his delusions. Play him 100 times and he'll do that bob once. Anyway, Walcott and his agent's arm stuck up his arsehole will call the shots, it'll be up to them what happens and it's hard to imagije they won't do what makes most sense financially. That's what it's all about these days.
yeah it is but not solely - and lets not forget all of those screaming for stupid money are already playing in their favoured positions. he has played upfront 2/3 times in all these years i think - the most memorable being against chelsea in the cc final way back. he showed the tools there. he obviously showed enough for wenger to keep banging the drum every season about it, so why not give him another go instead of wasting our time with cham and fucking park? there is no justification to that at all. as i said earlier, the least wenger can do is be consistent with his message - he is with everything else when it comes to trying to pull the wolves over our eyes post game.

put it this way, if steven fucking fletcher and that other twat from wolves can move for a combined £20+mill, it's hardly surprising england internationals are fleecing the game.

[Kano]

Spot on and all this he`is being mugged off cause he did not got to play in the cc a a striker do me a favour.

no, fours years of being told he'll be a striker. seriously, did you read anything i posted?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

no, fours years of being told he'll be a striker. seriously, did you read anything i posted?

Yes i did and most of what you said made sense but when you said did i had to look twice.

[Niall_Quinn]

yeah it is but not solely - and lets not forget all of those screaming for stupid money are already playing in their favoured positions. he has played upfront 2/3 times in all these years i think - the most memorable being against chelsea in the cc final way back. he showed the tools there. he obviously showed enough for wenger to keep banging the drum every season about it, so why not give him another go instead of wasting our time with cham and fucking park? there is no justification to that at all. as i said earlier, the least wenger can do is be consistent with his message - he is with everything else when it comes to trying to pull the wolves over our eyes post game.

put it this way, if steven fucking fletcher and that other twat from wolves can move for a combined £20+mill, it's hardly surprising england internationals are fleecing the game.

I get the impression Wenger will say whatever is required to try to keep some semblance of a team together. And sure, eventually there's a cost for doing that. It's just fucking horrible these little pricks have to persuaded to take the wheelbarrows of cash and play in the PL.

[Kano]

I get the impression Wenger will say whatever is required to try to keep some semblance of a team together. A
i think that might need a review. unless his target is a new team every season.

[Mr. Lahey]

Theo does get undeserved shit from fans. He is nowhere near as bad as some make out to be. However he is not a top earning player, he has not shown that he is yet. He has had his moments but not enough. Up front or on the wing, it wont matter. He is not worth what he is asking for that's the bottom line.

[Kano]

He is not worth what he is asking for that's the bottom line.
who is...

[Marc Overmars]

He just wants to be paid what he's comparatively worth in this fucked up sport, nothing wrong with that. He actually wants to stay as well which is refreshing to know, he could easily have done one by now.

He'll stay, I think. Although you can never be sure with the ramshackle operation running our club.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He just wants to be paid what he's comparatively worth in this fucked up sport, nothing wrong with that. He actually wants to stay as well which is refreshing to know, he could easily have done one by now.

He'll stay, I think. Although you can never be sure with the ramshackle operation running our club.

Which is what the club offered him if he thinks he is worth more then he needs to get new Advisers tbh.

[Marc Overmars]

Which is what the club offered him if he thinks he is worth more then he needs to get new Advisers tbh.

If the club knew what they were doing maybe we wouldn't have so players fucking off every year.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If the club knew what they were doing maybe we wouldn't have so players fucking off every year.

That well maybe but that's a diffrent issuse.

[Kano]

apparently adam johnson is or was on 80k a week. now, if he realises his potential he can grow into a better player than walcott but he is not there yet. the odd +1 from the subs bench whilst being too greedy in possession doesn't make him a star yet.

as Overmars said above, it's all relative to the fucked up money being thrown about in the game. a players worth is no longer dependant on what they only do on the pitch but what other clubs are chucking about for lesser players and leeching agents.

i mean, keiron dyer was on £80k+ a couple seasons back ffs!

[Mr. Lahey]

who is...
Too true. but i think Theo can be replaced somewhat easily whereas we are beggning to find out how difficult it is without RVP and Song.

[Kano]

Too true. but i think Theo can be replaced somewhat easily whereas we are beggning to find out how difficult it is without RVP and Song.
as an individual player i'd agree, the same can be said for song. but given the fact we could lose our three most productive players from last season, his departure now would really hurt. we need some players that have been in the team before - gerv missed the second half of last season through form, podol, giroud and cazorla are new. diaby has never played with arteta or caz and vice versa. too many new partnerships, too soon.

if we can pay park for two games, then just give walcott the money and be done. whats the difference? at least theo will be on the pitch and contribute.

can arsenal really be said to be making 'a stand' if we have been paying over inflated wages to so many young players for years?

[selassie]

If Theo buggers off in January I'm pretty sure we'll replace him internally. Already there is talk of Gnarby being a "super talent". Ryo is out on loan, Chambo is already knocking on the door.

Am I happy with our options? No...in fact I think we need to upgrade the wing as it is but that's for another debate.

[IBK]

as an individual player i'd agree, the same can be said for song. but given the fact we could lose our three most productive players from last season, his departure now would really hurt. we need some players that have been in the team before - gerv missed the second half of last season through form, podol, giroud and cazorla are new. diaby has never played with arteta or caz and vice versa. too many new partnerships, too soon.

if we can pay park for two games, then just give walcott the money and be done. whats the difference? at least theo will be on the pitch and contribute.

can arsenal really be said to be making 'a stand' if we have been paying over inflated wages to so many young players for years?

I'd tend to agree. There has to be some consideration of psychological effect. Frustrating thing for me is that although I think Walcott would be no great loss as a winger, he will probably leave without ever having played in his favoured position for us. And i think that that is a great pity.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Stewart Robson believes Arsenal should cash in on Theo Walcott as he’s simply too inconsistent.

The England international looks set for a surprise move away from the Emirates after talks over a new deal at the club became deadlocked.

And ex-Gunners star Robson claims Arsene Wenger should get rid of the former Southampton man.

He told the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast: “If you’re spending £75,000 a week on a player then you need him to be consistent, he needs to be one of your main players. I’m not sure Theo Walcott is that player.

“He’s been too inconsistent during his time at Arsenal. Is he getting better? Is he going to be a top class player? I’m not so sure.

“He’s at his best when the game is stretched and he can come on as an impact player, but you can’t pay an impact player £75,000 a week."

Manchester City and Liverpool have been linked with the 23-year-old and Robson believes the Gunners can cope should Walcott leave the club before the end of the transfer window.

“Arsenal could get a bit of money for him now,” he added. “I don’t think Walcott will be missed if he leaves.

“If I was the manager or on the board, I’d be looking to sell him anyway because I don’t think he’s improved during the time he’s been at Arsenal."
Read more at http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120829/exclusive-robson-arsenal-must-cash-walcott-179734#u2tmHfvLcwsY4jDW.99




Read more at http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120829/exclusive-robson-arsenal-must-cash-walcott-179734#u2tmHfvLcwsY4jDW.99

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Read more at http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120829/exclusive-robson-arsenal-must-cash-walcott-179734#u2tmHfvLcwsY4jDW.99
Sessegnon signs a 5-year contract extension at sunderland....how hard is it...geeez

[Niall_Quinn]

Sessegnon signs a 5-year contract extension at sunderland....how hard is it...geeez

He probably hasn't had his head filled with ideas he's the next Georgie Best.

[GP]

Sessegnon signs a 5-year contract extension at sunderland....how hard is it...geeez

Well Sessegnon is shit so it's not really relevant.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Well Sessegnon is shit so it's not really relevant.

:haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sessegnon signs a 5-year contract extension at sunderland....how hard is it...geeez

True, but with no one coming in for him or likely to he knows he is better of staying at sunderland. Where as our players know if they get a better offer they may as well take it as they see it as they step up and to win something.

[AKBapologist]

Sessegnon signs a 5-year contract extension at sunderland....how hard is it...geeez

:lol:

[LDG]

Well Sessegnon is shit so it's not really relevant.

Wasn't he the guy who looked absolute dog turd against us at the Emirates?

The same guy that people were saying we should buy?

:haha:

Oh dear.

[GP]

Wasn't he the guy who looked absolute dog turd against us at the Emirates?

The same guy that people were saying we should buy?

:haha:

Oh dear.

Those people :haha:

[Joker]

Difficult to look good when the rest of their team are extremely mediocre. Although having said that ideally we should be looking for higher quality players.

[LDG]

Difficult to look good when the rest of their team are extremely mediocre. Although having said that ideally we should be looking for higher quality players.

What like Demp....

Oh wait.

Fuck that shit man.

35mil. Go get Fabregas back.

[Joker]

What like Demp....

Oh wait.

Fuck that shit man.

35mil. Go get Fabregas back.

At this point wouldn't mind Dempsey tbh.

[Syn]

Fuck that shit.

Spend £35m on inventing a drug that brings Wilshere back to life. Only true gooner in football right now. As BOBN would say, Cesc is a fraud.

[GP]

Fuck that shit.

Spend £35m on inventing a drug that brings Wilshere back to life. Only true gooner in football right now. As BOBN would say, Cesc is a fraud.

Cesc :lol:

Have fun warming the Barca bench.

Do not forget they also have Song who can sit there.

[LDG]

Cesc :lol:

Have fun warming the Barca bench.

Do not forget they also have Song who can sit there.

:lol:

[Letters]

Do not forget they also have Song who can sit there.:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Do not forget they also have Song who can sit there.

:haha: Brilliant

[Xhaka Can’t]

Cesc :lol:

Have fun warming the Barca bench.

Do not forget they also have Song who can sit there.

:haha:

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[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has reiterated that he believes Theo Walcott will develop into a striker.

The Frenchman stated when he signed Walcott from Southampton in 2006 that he saw him moving to a more central role in the future, and even suggested in 2010 that the England international was "very close" to making the switch.

However, while the 23-year-old has become a key player for the Gunners in a wide position, he is yet to be given a consistent run by Wenger in the centre.

Comparing Walcott to fellow Southampton academy graduate Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, the Arsenal boss told the club's official website: "They are a different style. I believe that Walcott is more of a striker-type and Oxlade-Chamberlain is a more midfielder-type.

"You could see Oxlade-Chamberlain developing into a central midfielder but you could never with Walcott. I see Walcott developing through the middle as a striker and Chamberlain maybe as a central midfielder."

Ahead of Saturday's meeting with Southampton, Wenger also praised the work their opponents have done to help progress youngsters through the ranks.

"First of all it is [down to] fantastic scouting and they have a good development and coaching programme with young players," he said.

"They started that earlier than anyone else. They have a good reputation with their youth."

As well as Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain, Tottenham star Gareth Bale and current Saints skipper Adam Lallana began their careers at St Mary's.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/09/15/3377138/arsenal-boss-wenger-still-sees-walcott-developing-into

Hes 23 so start playing him upfront ffs

[Penguin]

He's too shit to be our main goal scorer

[Cripps_orig]

He's too shit to be our main goal scorer

Better than Giroud tbh

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Better than Giroud tbh

Maybe had the **** passed to Giroud he would have got his goal.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Maybe had the **** passed to Giroud he would have got his goal.


That really annoyed me, theo was never going to score, all he had was an easy pass but he never looks up. his goal was fantastic but otherwise i didnt enjoy him playing today, thought the effort wasnt really there. it might be because its southampton but he really really needs to up his game otherwise he will be kicked out

[Olivier's xmas twist]

That really annoyed me, theo was never going to score, all he had was an easy pass but he never looks up. his goal was fantastic but otherwise i didnt enjoy him playing today, thought the effort wasnt really there. it might be because its southampton but he really really needs to up his game otherwise he will be kicked out

was you at the game?

[Cripps_orig]

Maybe had the **** passed to Giroud he would have got his goal.

The pass was never on from what i saw although i have seen it once only.

He should have shot but he held it so he could pass to Giroud but the pass was never on.

Dont really care either. Theo scored later on

Charlie :haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

was you at the game?

no i wasnt. i was watching on a stream

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The pass was never on from what i saw although i have seen it once only.

He should have shot but he held it so he could pass to Giroud but the pass was never on.

Dont really care either. Theo scored later on

Charlie :haha:

Funny that all who watched on the stream saw he should have passed it. So if you were at the game and missed that then boy you either need glasses or a nearer seat to the action tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

Funny that all who watched on the stream saw he should have passed it. So if you were at the game and missed that then boy you either need glasses or a nearer seat to the action tbh.

Dont care.

He scored later on

[Cripps_orig]

You have to be shite not to score that goal it was a tap in more or less don't go on likr he scored some amazing goal.
As a great man once said

"Doesnt matter if you score from an inch or a mile, a goal is a goal"

[Boss]

Bench this clown until he signs a new contract.

No point wasting time.

[Cripps_orig]

He has been benched

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: add an extra bench in the changing rooms for him then

good to see walcott and giroud coming on yesterday. shows we have a bit of depth which every team needs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Every player we lose brings us a step closer to Shitmak, so even if Walcott is a greedy little **** who has an over-inflated opinion of his abilities (which he seems to be) then we still need to keep him. Walcott is hugely over-rated and depressingly inconsistent, he's a brain dead player who finds it impossible to learn even the simplest things. As such he is at least 1000 times better than Shitmak and he's one of the better bench players we have at the moment. It's all about keeping Shitmak off the pitch. If he plays then we've hit rock bottom.

[Cripps_orig]

Do you like making things up to back up your arguments?

[Niall_Quinn]

Do you like making things up to back up your arguments?

Which fact are you in denial of?

[Cripps_orig]

Walcott is a greedy little **** who has an over-inflated opinion of his abilitiesWhere do you get this shit from?

I know you cant really critisise him for on the pitch stuff as he constantly throughout the years has made a mockery of you but now to make up stuff like that?

I'd just like to know where it comes from. Clearly its from nothing Theo himself has said cos hes always seemed a level headed. down to earth guy in all the interviews ive read, seen, heard etc

So thats out

Is there some i dont know mythical place where this place comes from? If so, id like to know. Might help when im on the WUM next as you clearly are now

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:popcorn:

[Niall_Quinn]

Where do you get this shit from?

I know you cant really critisise him for on the pitch stuff as he constantly throughout the years has made a mockery of you but now to make up stuff like that?

I'd just like to know where it comes from. Clearly its from nothing Theo himself has said cos hes always seemed a level headed. down to earth guy in all the interviews ive read, seen, heard etc

So thats out

Is there some i dont know mythical place where this place comes from? If so, id like to know. Might help when im on the WUM next as you clearly are now

Why hasn't he signed his contract? Do you think he's getting screwed on £75K PER FUCKING WEEK on what he provides? Do you believe that just because a useless **** like Milner gets way overpaid, Theo is entitled to the same? Which part of that £75K PER FUCKING WEEK offer do you find so offensive on his behalf? Wouldn't you rather have players at the club who actually want to be at the club, minus the moaning and whining? If he's such a down to earth (TM), level headed (TM) good guy, why does he let his agent do this shit? Why is he fucking around with 1 year contracts? Why are you so quick to forgive players who are fucking us up the arse so they can get even richer? For non-delivery.

Make no mistake, Theo is an ordinary player. I agree, ordinary in these days is a big deal because most of the ****s playing are that useless. But why should an ordinary player get paid a fortune to play for the club that gave him his big break, got him in the England team, has persisted with his terrible inconsistency (would he have got the same opportunity at the Chavs?). Be realistic please and tell Theo to be realistic while you are at it.

[milla]

Where do you get this shit from?

I know you cant really critisise him for on the pitch stuff as he constantly throughout the years has made a mockery of you but now to make up stuff like that?

I'd just like to know where it comes from. Clearly its from nothing Theo himself has said cos hes always seemed a level headed. down to earth guy in all the interviews ive read, seen, heard etc

So thats out

Is there some i dont know mythical place where this place comes from? If so, id like to know. Might help when im on the WUM next as you clearly are now

If he is not greedy he would have signed the contract offered to him. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo is trying to pin his own failure to live up to his potential on us. He's in total denial. He thinks he can continue the charade at another club. Good luck with that Theo! A player who was touted to be the next big thing and he's delivered an ordinary output. Who's fault is that? Wenger's for not allowing him to fuck up in a central role :LOL:

Sooner the **** fucks off the better - BUT, we need a replacement to avoid Shitmak who is the equivalent of the Top Gear Allegro.

[Niall_Quinn]

I saw that Cazorla bloke playing yesterday. What an amazing football player. Straight into a new and massively inferior league full of huffers and puffers but he can still produce beautiful and INTELLIGENT football! Theo can only dream. How much is Cazorla on? Is it more or less than Theo wants? And if less, how hard should we laugh at that?

[Cripps_orig]

Why hasn't he signed his contract? Do you think he's getting screwed on £75K PER FUCKING WEEK on what he provides? Do you believe that just because a useless **** like Milner gets way overpaid, Theo is entitled to the same? Which part of that £75K PER FUCKING WEEK offer do you find so offensive on his behalf? Wouldn't you rather have players at the club who actually want to be at the club, minus the moaning and whining? If he's such a down to earth (TM), level headed (TM) good guy, why does he let his agent do this shit? Why is he fucking around with 1 year contracts? Why are you so quick to forgive players who are fucking us up the arse so they can get even richer? For non-delivery.

Make no mistake, Theo is an ordinary player. I agree, ordinary in these days is a big deal because most of the ****s playing are that useless. But why should an ordinary player get paid a fortune to play for the club that gave him his big break, got him in the England team, has persisted with his terrible inconsistency (would he have got the same opportunity at the Chavs?). Be realistic please and tell Theo to be realistic while you are at it.

Fuck knows why he hasnt signed it. Could be for money reasons or it could be he wants to see how the club does after they just sold 2 of our best players from last season. He doesnt want to make a foolish rushed decision which is fine by me.

Further more, when you see the high wages some of our shite players ae on, Walcott who is one of our better players has a right to ask for more. He produces the goods on the pitch. No reason not to give him the money he wants if that is the case.

All i know is what ive seen and heard from him in interivews and hes always been level headed and down to earth. I can just as easily make up shit as you do to defend him but im a bit more wiser and mature than that.

Thats what agents are for :doh:

Ordinary player :lol: Was he ordinary when he was taking apart your beloved Cole and Terry last season? Or how about when he destroyed the Spuds? I can name much more but theres no need. You get my point.

Ah the inconsistency thing. So basically you dont like him cos he isnt brilliant game after game. In that case, using that logic, every player is shit. Messi, Ronaldo, Pele, Maradona etc etc are all shit cos they never played well in every single game. Bergkamp? :haha: He was alwful

NQ Logic :bow:

:rolleyes:

[Cripps_orig]

I saw that Cazorla bloke playing yesterday. What an amazing football player. Straight into a new and massively inferior league full of huffers and puffers but he can still produce beautiful and INTELLIGENT football! Theo can only dream. How much is Cazorla on? Is it more or less than Theo wants? And if less, how hard should we laugh at that?
The guy who has scored as many as Theo this season and has played much more?

[Cripps_orig]

Theo is trying to pin his own failure to live up to his potential on us. He's in total denial. He thinks he can continue the charade at another club. Good luck with that Theo! A player who was touted to be the next big thing and he's delivered an ordinary output. Who's fault is that? Wenger's for not allowing him to fuck up in a central role :LOL:

Sooner the **** fucks off the better - BUT, we need a replacement to avoid Shitmak who is the equivalent of the Top Gear Allegro.
Name me another winger who isnt actually a winger who gets double figures in both goals and assists?

Oridinary output indeed :doh: Didnt i just say stop making up shit?

You have been so brainwashed by Sven and Wenger and the English Media who all believed he would be the next best thing. Think for yourself for once and not what they tell you to think and you will see Theo is a decent player who more often than not is our most dangerous player

[Master Splinter]

Name me another winger who isnt actually a woinger who gets double figures in both goals and assists?



Woingers :bow:.

The next evolution of wingers.

[Cripps_orig]

If he is not greedy he would have signed the contract offered to him. :lol:

Im sue there are other things other than money to sort out as well

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:popcorn:

Ach vs NQ

[milla]

Im sue there are other things other than money to sort out as well

Probably his signing bonus :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Probably his signing bonus :coffee:

Im sure that would be money related :coffee:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

We'll gladly take him off your hands for 8 whole pounds.

And I'll throw in a free medallion.

[Cripps_orig]

We'll gladly take him off your hands for 8 whole pounds.

And I'll throw in a free medallion.

Do you really want someone who isnt brilliant in every game he plays and therefore must be shit?

[Niall_Quinn]

Was he ordinary when he was taking apart your beloved Cole and Terry last season?

Yes, you were just talking about making up shit. When my avatar was Terry getting kicked in the head (because I hate the ****) and a common search will reveal ****ly Cole or Cashley (because I hate the ****) attached to my username maybe a thousand times, we can easily determine who is making shit up.

Fair enough?

I've read the match threads on GW and seen everyone saying, Cazorla, what a great performance. For every game. So let's not pretend natural talent doesn't show. If you can't see a big difference between players with genuine class and Theo Walcott then no wonder you are satisfied with his output. You seem to be praising Walcott for being less wasteful than Gervinho. How many shit balls did they play? How many fucked up first touches? How many anonymous stints? I'm just wondering what might happen if you put a genuine £100K per week player on the pitch. We could win something maybe.

I haven't been brainwashed by anyone. I want players who can pass, shoot and have a bit of intelligence on the ball. That's not Theo. Nothing to do with what the media think. Yeah, for 100K A FUCKING WEEK I want a superstar, not Theo Walcott. What's wrong with that? What's dumb about that? Paying the **** would be dumb.

[Niall_Quinn]

The guy who has scored as many as Theo this season and has played much more?

Are you saying Theo is in the same class as this guy? Really?

[Cripps_orig]

I haven't been brainwashed by anyone. :lol:

Of course not

[Cripps_orig]

Are you saying Theo is in the same class as this guy? Really?

Cazorla is better on the ball.

In terms of end product? Its there for all to see

[milla]

Yes, you were just talking about making up shit. When my avatar was Terry getting kicked in the head (because I hate the ****) and a common search will reveal ****ly Cole or Cashley (because I hate the ****) attached to my username maybe a thousand times, we can easily determine who is making shit up.

Fair enough?

I've read the match threads on GW and seen everyone saying, Cazorla, what a great performance. For every game. So let's not pretend natural talent doesn't show. If you can't see a big difference between players with genuine class and Theo Walcott then no wonder you are satisfied with his output. You seem to be praising Walcott for being less wasteful than Gervinho. How many shit balls did they play? How many fucked up first touches? How many anonymous stints? I'm just wondering what might happen if you put a genuine £100K per week player on the pitch. We could win something maybe.

I haven't been brainwashed by anyone. I want players who can pass, shoot and have a bit of intelligence on the ball. That's not Theo. Nothing to do with what the media think. Yeah, for 100K A FUCKING WEEK I want a superstar, not Theo Walcott. What's wrong with that? What's dumb about that? Paying the **** would be dumb.

Pretty much my sentiment IMO. He may sell more shirts than others, but 70-80k (holy shit, that's a lot money!!!) should be his ceiling. Unless he starts banging 20-30 goals from the wing, I can't see Wenger giving in to Feo. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yes, you were just talking about making up shit. When my avatar was Terry getting kicked in the head (because I hate the ****) and a common search will reveal ****ly Cole or Cashley (because I hate the ****) attached to my username maybe a thousand times, we can easily determine who is making shit up.

Fair enough?

I've read the match threads on GW and seen everyone saying, Cazorla, what a great performance. For every game. So let's not pretend natural talent doesn't show. If you can't see a big difference between players with genuine class and Theo Walcott then no wonder you are satisfied with his output. You seem to be praising Walcott for being less wasteful than Gervinho. How many shit balls did they play? How many fucked up first touches? How many anonymous stints? I'm just wondering what might happen if you put a genuine £100K per week player on the pitch. We could win something maybe.

I haven't been brainwashed by anyone. I want players who can pass, shoot and have a bit of intelligence on the ball. That's not Theo. Nothing to do with what the media think. Yeah, for 100K A FUCKING WEEK I want a superstar, not Theo Walcott. What's wrong with that? What's dumb about that? Paying the **** would be dumb.

:gp:

NQ :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Cazorla is better on the ball.

In terms of end product? Its there for all to see

What do you mean by end product? Goals? There's more to it than that surely? Otherwise every keeper would be dropped for having a shit scoring record. I'm talking about genuinely talented players who delivery consistency with the performance. Brilliant every game without fail? No. Wild swings between great performances and absolute anonymity, forget it, that's not the sign of a top player. I hope Walcott goes to Chelsea because it will weaken them and we'll finish above them. City would be even better but I can't see them falling for it.

[Cripps_orig]

What do you mean by end product? Goals? There's more to it than that surely? Otherwise every keeper would be dropped for having a shit scoring record. I'm talking about genuinely talented players who delivery consistency with the performance. Brilliant every game without fail? No. Wild swings between great performances and absolute anonymity, forget it, that's not the sign of a top player. I hope Walcott goes to Chelsea because it will weaken them and we'll finish above them. City would be even better but I can't see them falling for it.

Im not in the business of critisising one player to praise another. Im glad we have both. Cazorla has been great so far. But its all well and good looking pretty on the ball when there is little end product and you have critisised the team enough for that yourself but of course that goes out the window cos it would go against your Cazorla praising/Theo bashing thing you are on.

No need to continue this anymore with someone who is brainwashed by Sven and co.

[Niall_Quinn]

Im not in the business of critisising one player to praise another. Im glad we have both. Cazorla has been great so far. But its all well and good looking pretty on the ball when there is little end product and you have critisised the team enough for that yourself but of course that goes out the window cos it would go against your Cazorla praising/Theo bashing thing you are on.

No need to continue this anymore with someone who is brainwashed by Sven and co.

No need to continue because you can't think of a single reason to justify Walcott pissing on the team that gave him so much in return for his mediocre ability. The final insult will come when he pretends he's leaving because the club hasn't signed decent players. Good fucking job for him or he never would have got a look in. If he sorts his attitude problem out and regains his sense of perspective then he's an okay bench player. Otherwise no loss at all. Best two results so far have come with him off the pitch haven't they?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No need to continue because you can't think of a single reason to justify Walcott pissing on the team that gave him so much in return for his mediocre ability. The final insult will come when he pretends he's leaving because the club hasn't signed decent players. Good fucking job for him or he never would have got a look in. If he sorts his attitude problem out and regains his sense of perspective then he's an okay bench player. Otherwise no loss at all. Best two results so far have come with him off the pitch haven't they?

:gp:

[milla]

LOL Cazorla ends product is keeping our play fluid in the middle of the pitch. What NQ is saying is if we want to pay 100k for wing forward/winger we should get someone who can perform week in and week out or able to offer something else when his goals dried up.

:coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

LOL Cazorla ends product is keeping our play fluid in the middle of the pitch. What NQ is saying is if we want to pay 100k for wing forward/winger we should get someone who can perform week in and week out or able to offer something else when his goals dried up.

:coffee:

Pretty much.

[Cripps_orig]

Oh dear

[Niall_Quinn]

Sun claims Walcott got jeered when he came on. True? False?

Silly question, it's the Sun. :getcoat:

[milla]

I think Theo maybe wants an assurance from the manager that he will be an automatic starter. Theo knows he will may never get the CF role, he knows he will never get to play on the left, leaving him competing with Gerv and Oxo for the right wing role.

In this case, Wenger can see Theo is very limited (and can't guarantee starting place), hence why Theo has not sign the new contract yet. The only way around this is to change to our old 4-4-2 but I don't think it will happen, not whilst Wenger is still the manager. :coffee:

[milla]

Sun claims Walcott got jeered when he came on. True? False?

Silly question, it's the Sun. :getcoat:

No he didn't, in general fans love him IMO. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I think Theo maybe wants an assurance from the manager that he will be an automatic starter. Theo knows he will may never get the CF role, he knows he will never get to play on the left, leaving him competing with Gerv and Oxo for the right wing role.

In this case, Wenger can see Theo is very limited (and can't guarantee starting place), hence why Theo has not sign the new contract yet. The only way around this is to change to our old 4-4-2 but I don't think it will happen, not whilst Wenger is still the manager. :coffee:

or like Maccy says no one really plays 4-4-2 any more.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sun claims Walcott got jeered when he came on. True? False?

Silly question, it's the Sun. :getcoat:

Can't say i heard any boos but then i was watching from a stream, so Ach is your man for this question.

[milla]

Again it is not worth changing to 4-4-2 just to accommodate Theo. Unless it is BG10 and TH14 second coming, I don't see it happening in the near future (I also ruled out :arry: as our future manager :lol: ).

[Xhaka Can’t]

Sun claims Walcott got jeered when he came on. True? False?<br />
<br />
Silly question, it's the Sun. :getcoat:
LOL wut?

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

[Cripps_orig]

or like Maccy says no one really plays 4-4-2 any more.

Man City do

And they are champions

[milla]

Man City do

And they are champions

Like I said Cripps, unless if it is BG10 and TH14 second coming, we will not see 4-4-2 at Arsenal. The moneybags got Aguero, Tevez and Balotelli. With that much fire power, they have every right to play 4-4-2 (the same with Manu when both RVP and Rooney are fit). :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Its not something that should be dismissed though. It should be an option

Couldnt care less if others play it or not. With it, we were at our most successful and since going 4-5-1/4-3-3, we've been a bit shit

We changed to bring out the best in Cesc. Hes dead so no need to play it anymore

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Man City do

And they are champions

Yeah but they have the players to do that, not many teams play that system.

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah but they have the players to do that, not many teams play that system.

As a great man once said

"Couldnt care less if others play it or not. With it, we were at our most successful and since going 4-5-1/4-3-3, we've been a bit shit"

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City do

And they are champions

I said 4-4-2 is dead at the highest level, Citeh won't play that way against the top teams, it leaves your midfield too exposed. It's not really 4-4-2 in the sense you want us to play anyway but I suppose that's really beside the point.

Why the only alternative to 4-3-3 is 4-4-2 though I'm not entirely sure.

[milla]

Its not something that should be dismissed though. It should be an option

Couldnt care less if others play it or not. With it, we were at our most successful and since going 4-5-1/4-3-3, we've been a bit shit

We changed to bring out the best in Cesc. Hes dead so no need to play it anymore

If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.

:coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

As a great man once said

"Couldnt care less if others play it or not. With it, we were at our most successful and since going 4-5-1/4-3-3, we've been a bit shit"

You play the system that suits the players you have, as we don't really have the players to play a 4-4-2 it would be stupid to even think about it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.

:coffee:

:rose: Ach

[Niall_Quinn]

Strikers might get very few opportunities in a match and really have to finish 1 in 3 to make a serious impact. That's not Walcott. 1 in 10 on a good day, you can't rely on inconsistency like that in such a key position. Plus his positional play is lousy. Even if we started lobbing it over the top and letting him use his pace, he seems to choke whenever he has to make a decision. So one on one with the last defender or the keeper and you'd bet on Theo to lose. His best role is in a foot race against an inferior full back. Then you hope he beats the odds with the final ball.

[milla]

I said 4-4-2 is dead at the highest level, Citeh won't play that way against the top teams, it leaves your midfield too exposed. It's not really 4-4-2 in the sense you want us to play anyway but I suppose that's really beside the point.

Why the only alternative to 4-3-3 is 4-4-2 though I'm not entirely sure.

Tis :gp:

The day of pacey striker out running the CBs are long gone, nowadays it is all about possession and good intelligent counter attack. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

You play the system that suits the players you have, as we don't really have the players to play a 4-4-2 it would be stupid to even think about it.

Some would say the 4-5-1 hasnt suited our players bar Cesc and then RVP. It brought out the best in them but not the team.

[Cripps_orig]

If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.

:coffee:

Cos you were so adamant that others dont play it so i just shut you up by stating the champions of the league that we play in do play the 4-4-2.

But yeah i dont care if others play it or not. I care about Arsenal only and history suggests that we win trophies with 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 whatever but win shit with anything else

[milla]

Strikers might get very few opportunities in a match and really have to finish 1 in 3 to make a serious impact. That's not Walcott. 1 in 10 on a good day, you can't rely on inconsistency like that in such a key position. Plus his positional play is lousy. Even if we started lobbing it over the top and letting him use his pace, he seems to choke whenever he has to make a decision. So one on one with the last defender or the keeper and you'd bet on Theo to lose. His best role is in a foot race against an inferior full back. Then you hope he beats the odds with the final ball.

Finishing is not Theo's problem IMO, but rather his skills in other department.. ie holding up the ball, dribbling and decision making are his biggest issue. He could have easily assist Giroud yesterday but he fecked it up.. if it was 0-0, fans would be fuming at him. :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

Can we move the conversation on stop judging Theo as a winger? Wenger keeps saying his future is as a striker and I'm more curious to see if Wenger will play him there one day. He's been on the bench most games but was still in the right place at the right time and took his goal on his weakest foot. He shouldn't be out on the wings and it sucks to think we're having this conversation after just scoring from the bench. Why hasn't he signed a new deal? I suspect it could be down to this sort of thing. He gets no respect from the press, pundits or even his own fans. When he signed for Arsenal, I suspect he and his dad trusted Wenger to steer his career in the right direction. This constant criticism must be fucking with him. He gets hammered every time but keeps popping to try and prove people wrong with his goals but it's never enough.

NQ....you're blinkered sometimes. Everything seems to boil down to greed and money with you and you ignore the football aspect far too much. Players can often get pissed off when played out of position and if Wenger is saying it's not about money and he hasn't given up on Theo, then what is it? I get the feeling Theo wants his shot up front, but Wenger has said he has competition and it means he'll be on the bench and not an automatic starter. Theo may have agreed and said he wants his shot. I could be wrong but if we're saying Wenger only wants committed players and has taken off the gloves, why sell RVP and Song, players worth more to the club but keep Theo? It's worth thinking about.

Was just watching Defoe's goals and listening to Hoddle talk about him and that's the sort of striker Theo should be. People say he has no brain and all that nonsense but his intellgence shows with his well timed runs and the way he knows how to beat a keeper. There is an art to being clincal and knowing how to out fox a keeper. Different striking techniques such as hitting the ball with different sides of the boot, going for dinks, lofted shots, taking shots early...i've seen Theo demonstrate a lot the techniques i've seen top class finishers like Wright, Defoe, Owen and Eduardo have pulled off. He should have been spending his years sharpening up on that but Wenger doesn't like that sort of striker and it's why he shifted Wright out so early and never goes for that type of player. They always need to do more on the edge of the box. We'll see what happens with Theo, but if i was Theo's dad and had to listen to the constant bashing, I'd think back to the conversation i first had with Arsene about his career and i wouldn't be pleased. Isn't Theo's agent his dad? Regardless, if people keep saying he has no brain and hasn't developed, Arsene has to take a lot of the flak because Theo doesn't come across as the sort that doesn't listen and won't knuckle down.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I said 4-4-2 is dead at the highest level, Citeh won't play that way against the top teams, it leaves your midfield too exposed. It's not really 4-4-2 in the sense you want us to play anyway but I suppose that's really beside the point.

Why the only alternative to 4-3-3 is 4-4-2 though I'm not entirely sure.
The all hallowed 4-2-1-3-1?

[milla]

Cos you were so adamant that others dont play it so i just shut you up by stating the champions of the league that we play in do play the 4-4-2.

But yeah i dont care if others play it or not. I care about Arsenal only and history suggests that we win trophies with 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 whatever but win shit with anything else

Cripps read what I said,, Citeh can play 4-4-2 cos they can afford it! They are not playing 4-4-2 against top team anyway. Do you want to put money they will go 4-4-2 against Madrid? :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Finishing is not Theo's problem IMO, but rather his skills in other department.. ie holding up the ball, dribbling and decision making are his biggest issue. He could have easily assist Giroud yesterday but he fecked it up.. if it was 0-0, fans would be fuming at him. :coffee:

He should have shot. The pass was never on but hes a team player and wanted to let Giroud score and tried to get it to Giroud who stood there like a lump instead of making some movement to get avaiable for a pass

But of course dont let facts get in the way of a good Theo bashing.

I was there btw and that was at my end of the pitch. Not on some pussy stream which probably froze 30 times during that moment of play

[milla]

The all hallowed 4-2-1-3-1?

Only for Manu and Liverhoof IMO. The ref loves em. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Cos you were so adamant that others dont play it so i just shut you up by stating the champions of the league that we play in do play the 4-4-2.

But yeah i dont care if others play it or not. I care about Arsenal only and history suggests that we win trophies with 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 whatever but win shit with anything else

Well no that was me :haha:

Ach :rose: take some time off fella.

[Cripps_orig]

Cripps read what I said,, Citeh can play 4-4-2 cos they can afford it! They are not playing 4-4-2 against top team anyway. Do you want to put money they will go 4-4-2 against Madrid? :coffee:

Man utd are a top team, are they not?

Won 6-1 they did last season did they not?

And we wont play top teams every week so against Pub teamers, play 2 up top. Fair enough if we strengthen the midfield for the big games but not for others we dont have to

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The all hallowed 4-2-1-3-1?

Rafa. :bow:

[milla]

He should have shot. The pass was never on but hes a team player and wanted to let Giroud score and tried to get it to Giroud who stood there like a lump instead of making some movement to get avaiable for a pass

But of course dont let facts get in the way of a good Theo bashing.

I was there btw and that was at my end of the pitch. Not on some pussy stream which probably froze 30 times during that moment of play

Yes he should have a shot but he didn't, he meddle on the ball far too long and end up with a bad half cross. I give him credit, he has good finishing and very very quick but his decision making, strenght and dribbling technique are poor.

No I am not Theo bashing, I like the kid but I think Wenger is slowing phasing him out of the first team. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ....you're blinkered sometimes. Everything seems to boil down to greed and money with you and you ignore the football aspect far too much. Players can often get pissed off when played out of position and if Wenger is saying it's not about money and he hasn't given up on Theo, then what is it? I get the feeling Theo wants his shot up front, but Wenger has said he has competition and it means he'll be on the bench and not an automatic starter. Theo may have agreed and said he wants his shot. I could be wrong but if we're saying Wenger only wants committed players and has taken off the gloves, why sell RVP and Song, players worth more to the club but keep Theo? It's worth thinking about.

Good players force the manager's hand. The rest are arranged accordingly like pawns. Theo's had his chance (and another and another) and so far his biggest splash has been a £100K contract demand. No, he hasn't had a run up front but why doesn't he sort out the position he's actually playing in first? It's about excellence isn't it? Not contracts. The contracts come after the excellence and when a player wants to put those first then yeas, I thin greedy ****. Sorry, but that's about the sum of it. If Theo was tearing it up match after match then there wouldn't even be a discussion. He'd be a starter and he'd be playing in the position his performances demanded. Are we really going to blame Wenger because Theo can't trap a ball? Or because he won't promote the guy for failing to own the role he's currently in? Way, way too many excuses made for these players.

[Cripps_orig]

Yes he should have a shot but he didn't, he meddle on the ball far too long and end up with a bad half cross. I give him credit, he has good finishing and very very quick but his decision making, strenght and dribbling technique are poor.

No I am not Theo bashing, I like the kid but I think Wenger is slowing phasing him out of the first team. :coffee:

All the more reason to play him upfront

He can finish, hes good on one on ones and his speed terrifies the opposition

[Niall_Quinn]

Cripps read what I said,, Citeh can play 4-4-2 cos they can afford it! They are not playing 4-4-2 against top team anyway. Do you want to put money they will go 4-4-2 against Madrid? :coffee:

They will go 10-0-0 against Madrid.

[milla]

Man utd are a top team, are they not?

Won 6-1 they did last season did they not?

And we wont play top teams every week so against Pub teamers, play 2 up top. Fair enough if we strengthen the midfield for the big games but not for others we dont have to

Cripps you are not reading my post!!! I said Manu and Citeh can do it cos they can afford it! Read my post!

Do you think 4-4-2 with Theo and Podolski/Giroud/Oxo will work? With our midfield? We will get over run, especially if your CF can't hold the ball against the CBs. They will not outrun Theo, they will chopped him like they did to Reyes few years ago. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He should have shot. The pass was never on but hes a team player and wanted to let Giroud score and tried to get it to Giroud who stood there like a lump instead of making some movement to get avaiable for a pass



:doh:

Not sure what game you was watching, Giroud was waiting for the tap in all theo had to do was pass but he wasted the time.

[Power n Glory]

He should have shot. The pass was never on but hes a team player and wanted to let Giroud score and tried to get it to Giroud who stood there like a lump instead of making some movement to get avaiable for a pass

But of course dont let facts get in the way of a good Theo bashing.

I was there btw and that was at my end of the pitch. Not on some pussy stream which probably froze 30 times during that moment of play

The pass wasn't on at all. He had two players on him and one of the defenders would have got a touch on it. But it's irrelevant, how is that being used to bash him when he scored coming off the bench? It's not as if he can't make that sort of pass either. We've seen it plenty of times last season and this summer with England. It's time to change the record.

[milla]

All the more reason to play him upfront

He can finish, hes good on one on ones and his speed terrifies the opposition

His feet can but his mind doesn't know when to pull the trigger, that's why he failed to assist Giroud/or score from that play. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Good players force the manager's hand. The rest are arranged accordingly like pawns. Theo's had his chance (and another and another) and so far his biggest splash has been a £100K contract demand. No, he hasn't had a run up front but why doesn't he sort out the position he's actually playing in first? It's about excellence isn't it? Not contracts. The contracts come after the excellence and when a player wants to put those first then yeas, I thin greedy ****. Sorry, but that's about the sum of it. If Theo was tearing it up match after match then there wouldn't even be a discussion. He'd be a starter and he'd be playing in the position his performances demanded. Are we really going to blame Wenger because Theo can't trap a ball? Or because he won't promote the guy for failing to own the role he's currently in? Way, way too many excuses made for these players.

:gp: top post NQ.

[Cripps_orig]

:doh:

Not sure what game you was watching, Giroud was waiting for the tap in all theo had to do was pass but he waisted the time.

Waisted :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

His feet can but his mind doesn't know when to pull the trigger, that's why he failed to assist Giroud/or score from that play. :coffee:

Sell the **** in Jan and get Navas tbh :coffee:

[milla]

:doh:

Not sure what game you was watching, Giroud was waiting for the tap in all theo had to do was pass but he waisted the time.

Regardless if he wants to pass or shoot, he should have done first time. Not meddle for few seconds and passed it when the opportunity is gone. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

The pass wasn't on at all. He had two players on him and one of the defenders would have got a touch on it. But it's irrelevant, how is that being used to bash him when he scored coming off the bench? It's not as if he can't make that sort of pass either. We've seen it plenty of times last season and this summer with England. It's time to change the record.

Just another reason to bash him

Its ridiculous

I said in the match reaction thread that the pass was never on cos there were defenders back so Giroud would have to make some movement if he wanted the ball and Theo waited and waited and it never came so he played the ball across to the guy running back post, Gibbs i think and thats the end of that chapter.

But of course it goes against the laughable attempts of Theo bashing so lets not use facts and use Charlie logic instead ie bad spelling and make shit up

[Power n Glory]

Good players force the manager's hand. The rest are arranged accordingly like pawns. Theo's had his chance (and another and another) and so far his biggest splash has been a £100K contract demand. No, he hasn't had a run up front but why doesn't he sort out the position he's actually playing in first? It's about excellence isn't it? Not contracts. The contracts come after the excellence and when a player wants to put those first then yeas, I thin greedy ****. Sorry, but that's about the sum of it. If Theo was tearing it up match after match then there wouldn't even be a discussion. He'd be a starter and he'd be playing in the position his performances demanded. Are we really going to blame Wenger because Theo can't trap a ball? Or because he won't promote the guy for failing to own the role he's currently in? Way, way too many excuses made for these players.

I'm not going to read the rest of that because you're blinkered and proving my point. Compared to his Prem rivals, he scores more goals. Nani, Bale, Valencia...his numbers aren't shit when you do a comparison. Prove his worth....do you think Ian Wright could have developed Robben esk dribbling skills if he was played on the wings when he's always been a striker?

[Cripps_orig]

His feet can but his mind doesn't know when to pull the trigger, that's why he failed to assist Giroud/or score from that play. :coffee:

That was more down to Giroud not doing anything to make himself available for the pass than anything Theo did.

Theo should be critisised for not shooting, not for waiting for Giroud to do something.

Alas he made up for it with a good goal with his chocolate leg but lets not mention that as it goes against the Theo bashing

[Olivier's xmas twist]

he should have done first time. Not meddle for few seconds and passed it when the opportunity is gone. :coffee:

:gp:

But i guess its easier to blame Giroud for not moving and finding space.

[Cripps_orig]

I'm not going to read the rest of that because you're blinkered and proving my point. Compared to his Prem rivals, he scores more goals. Nani, Bale, Valencia...his numbers aren't shit when you do a comparison. Prove his worth....do you think Ian Wright could have developed Robben esk dribbling skills if he was played on the wings when he's always been a striker?

Brilliant post

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Just another reason to bash him

Its ridiculous

I said in the match reaction thread that the pass was never on cos there were defenders back so Giroud would have to make some movement if he wanted the ball and Theo waited and waited and it never came so he played the ball across to the guy running back post, Gibbs i think and thats the end of that chapter.

But of course it goes against the laughable attempts of Theo bashing so lets not use facts and use Charlie logic instead ie bad spelling and make shit up

Its not Bashing if its the truth. You blame Giroud if it helps you sleep thight though.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

That was more down to Giroud not doing anything to make himself available for the pass than anything Theo did.

Theo should be critisised for not shooting, not for waiting for Giroud to do something.

Alas he made up for it with a good goal with his chocolate leg but lets not mention that as it goes against the Theo bashing

Funny how Bale of Lennon would have made that pass for defoe to tap it in, but Theo could not, says alot about the boy tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

Its not Bashing if its the truth. You blame Giroud if it helps you sleep thight though.

I was there. I along with thousands of others saw it.

Fact it wasnt shown on MOTD means you didnt unless you watched it on a stream which froze 50 times during that moment

And thats what youre basing your argument on? Really?

Take a break

Thats 3 days in a row you have had shockers. Care to go for number 4 tomorrow?

[Power n Glory]

Just another reason to bash him

Its ridiculous

I said in the match reaction thread that the pass was never on cos there were defenders back so Giroud would have to make some movement if he wanted the ball and Theo waited and waited and it never came so he played the ball across to the guy running back post, Gibbs i think and thats the end of that chapter.

But of course it goes against the laughable attempts of Theo bashing so lets not use facts and use Charlie logic instead ie bad spelling and make shit up

It's an embarrassing conversation and it's obvious people are being picky. He scores a goal but people are focusing on a pass that wasn't on and plus we've seen him just last week for England and when he came off the bench during the Euros.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I was there. I along with thousands of others saw it.

Fact it wasnt shown on MOTD means you didnt unless you watched it on a stream which froze 50 times during that moment

And thats what youre basing your argument on? Really?

Take a break

Thats 3 days in a row you have had shockers. Care to go for number 4 tomorrow?


The fact everyone who watched it on a stream on here said the same thing during the game says diffrent but you continue to be up his ass if it makes you feel better.

[milla]

That was more down to Giroud not doing anything to make himself available for the pass than anything Theo did.

Theo should be critisised for not shooting, not for waiting for Giroud to do something.

Alas he made up for it with a good goal with his chocolate leg but lets not mention that as it goes against the Theo bashing

Theo failed to pull the trigger has nothing to do with Giroud tbh, I was hoping Theo to shoot with his 2nd touch but his ball control failed him. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Theo failed to pull the trigger has nothing to do with Giroud tbh, I was hoping Theo to shoot with his 2nd touch but his ball control failed him. :coffee:

Stop talking sense and start talking Cripps logic.

[Power n Glory]

Funny how Bale of Lennon would have made that pass for defoe to tap it in, but Theo could not, says alot about the boy tbh.

How much of Tottenham do you watch on your streams, Charlie? How many Spurs game do you watch to be able to draw such a conclusion? Not just highlights of the goals where a move works out....full 90 minutes?

[Cripps_orig]

It's an embarrassing conversation and it's obvious people are being picky. He scores a goal but people are focusing on a pass that wasn't on and plus we've seen him just last week for England and when he came off the bench during the Euros.

It is indeed but im watching Titanic and its a long ass film so it helps the time go by.

Reminds me of last season when Theo scored 2 v Spuds and yet most on here concentrated on the couple of minutes he had where he had a shocker in the first half :lol:

When it comes to Theo, none of them really have a leg to stand on. Why do you think the topic about Theo bashing has gone from what he used to do on the pitch to his contract shit now? Cos they know they cant really bash him for what he does on it so need another excuse.

Its a WUM thing. I know cos i do it with other players and as im the best WUM in the world at what i do, i can respect it

Even with the contract thing, they have to resort to making things up though :lol:

Its embarrassing for them but funny as fuck for the rest of us normal posters

[milla]

I'm not going to read the rest of that because you're blinkered and proving my point. Compared to his Prem rivals, he scores more goals. Nani, Bale, Valencia...his numbers aren't shit when you do a comparison. Prove his worth....do you think Ian Wright could have developed Robben esk dribbling skills if he was played on the wings when he's always been a striker?

Do you think Theo should be CF? Do you think he is fit to play as CF in our current system? NQ might say he is shit but most of
fans would disagree. Theo is decent, but I will not play him as CF or build the team around him. Does Theo also deserved big money contract? I don't think so. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

The fact everyone who watched it on a stream on here said the same thing during the game says diffrent but you continue to be up his ass if it makes you feel better.

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm not going to read the rest of that because you're blinkered and proving my point. Compared to his Prem rivals, he scores more goals. Nani, Bale, Valencia...his numbers aren't shit when you do a comparison. Prove his worth....do you think Ian Wright could have developed Robben esk dribbling skills if he was played on the wings when he's always been a striker?

You're answering my post without reading it? And then claiming I'm blinkered? Seriously?

And it's not really valid to compare Ian Wright with Theo Walcott, is it? One was a record scoring striker, the other is a player who is still trying to string more than a couple of decent performances together. Sorry but there was no dispute over Wright, Henry, Bergkamp, etc and in today's team who's going to say Arteta or Cazorla should not play? Quality players are easy to spot. We can keep going on excusing Theo for his hot and cold career or we can say he's a project that didn't bear fruit. That'll fall to the opinion of the observer but when you look at the player on the pitch it's hard not to reach certain conclusions. And even that's not the point. Point is the poor sod thinks he's a world beater and deserves 100K a week. That's just silly. We should sell him for what we can get (which is less now the disloyal **** has only signed for a year - thanks Theo) and spend the money on a talent that has matured and would be worth the £100K.

And why didn't Theo sign for 5 years and go on a big fee? Our board would hardly stand in the way of a deal like that. Maybe it's because Theo knows the truth too.

[Cripps_orig]

Stop talking sense and start talking Cripps logic.

If he did, he'd be right more times than not

best thing you posted on here

Cripps logic>sense

[milla]

If he did, he'd be right more times than not

best thing you posted on here

Cripps logic>sense

But he didn't :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

It's an embarrassing conversation and it's obvious people are being picky. He scores a goal but people are focusing on a pass that wasn't on and plus we've seen him just last week for England and when he came off the bench during the Euros.

Not sure 6 years or however long it has been is "picky", Theo is well past his delivery date. He was an absolute embarrassment for England last time out - I was cringing in his behalf. And he was crap the time before that and great the time before that. And that's Theo in a nutshell, shit, shit, great, shit, shit, great. No to 100K. Make it great, great, great and then he can have 200K.

[Cripps_orig]

Not sure 6 years or however long it has been is "picky", Theo is well past his delivery date. He was an absolute embarrassment for England last time out - I was cringing in his behalf. And he was crap the time before that and great the time before that. And that's Theo in a nutshell, shit, shit, great, shit, shit, great. No to 100K. Make it great, great, great and then he can have 200K.

So hes not allowed a bad game then ever?

NQ logic :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

How much of Tottenham do you watch on your streams, Charlie? How many Spurs game do you watch to be able to draw such a conclusion? Not just highlights of the goals where a move works out....full 90 minutes?

Seen them lots On sky sports when there on and under harry their movement was quite fast etc.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Not sure 6 years or however long it has been is "picky", Theo is well past his delivery date. He was an absolute embarrassment for England last time out - I was cringing in his behalf. And he was crap the time before that and great the time before that. And that's Theo in a nutshell, shit, shit, great, shit, shit, great. No to 100K. Make it great, great, great and then he can have 200K.


Pretty much, but because he has one good game at the Euro's he is suddenly world class :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Was interesting watching Podolski line up for that FK yesterday, for once I believed it might go in. When Walcott gets the ball I flip channels to see if anything decent is on.

[Power n Glory]

So hes not allowed a bad game then ever?

NQ logic :bow:

He doesn't no shit about football. It's just as plain as that. I'm done talking and just dismissing. :lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You're answering my post without reading it? And then claiming I'm blinkered? Seriously?

And it's not really valid to compare Ian Wright with Theo Walcott, is it? One was a record scoring striker, the other is a player who is still trying to string more than a couple of decent performances together. Sorry but there was no dispute over Wright, Henry, Bergkamp, etc and in today's team who's going to say Arteta or Cazorla should not play? Quality players are easy to spot. We can keep going on excusing Theo for his hot and cold career or we can say he's a project that didn't bear fruit. That'll fall to the opinion of the observer but when you look at the player on the pitch it's hard not to reach certain conclusions. And even that's not the point. Point is the poor sod thinks he's a world beater and deserves 100K a week. That's just silly. We should sell him for what we can get (which is less now the disloyal **** has only signed for a year - thanks Theo) and spend the money on a talent that has matured and would be worth the £100K.

And why didn't Theo sign for 5 years and go on a big fee? Our board would hardly stand in the way of a deal like that. Maybe it's because Theo knows the truth too.

:bow: NQ


Point is the poor sod thinks he's a world beater and deserves 100K a week. That's just silly. We should sell him for what we can get (which is less now the disloyal **** has only signed for a year - thanks Theo) and spend the money on a talent that has matured and would be worth the £100K.


:gp:

[milla]

Seen them lots On sky sports when there on and under harry their movement was quite fast etc.

Talking about Bale, Valencia, Nani, Lennon, Milner etc, I think most will fail under Wenger.. maybe Nani and Bale (if Wenger doesn't move him to LB) will make it but the rest will not make it at Arsenal. Wenger never likes these type of players. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Was interesting watching Podolski line up for that FK yesterday, for once I believed it might go in. When Walcott gets the ball I flip channels to see if anything decent is on.

Problem with Theo he has lived off that hatrick against croatia, so people like ach get brainwashed into thinking he is world class. :haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Pretty much, but because he has one good game at the Euro's he is suddenly world class :lol:

I'm ambivalent about Theo - don't care if he stays or goes, but I thought he was one of the very few England players to have a good tournament.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Talking about Bale, Valencia, Nani, Lennon, Milner etc, I think most will fail under Wenger.. maybe Nani and Bale (if Wenger doesn't move him to LB) will make it but the rest will not make it at Arsenal. Wenger never likes these type of players. :coffee:

Never said they would not.

[milla]

You lot really abused the word "brainwash" lol. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'm ambivalent about Theo - don't care if he stays or goes, but I thought he was one of the very few England players to have a good tournament.

From what i saw his best game was against Ukraine, fair enough but other then that don't think he was that good. Not his fault the team was shite though.

[Cripps_orig]

He doesn't no shit about football. It's just as plain as that. I'm done talking and just dismissing. :lol:

I wouldnt say that. NQ is on the WUM which is fine

I dont genuinely believe he actually believes all that crap he says about Theo. He seems too intelligent for that.

If he does though.....oh dear.

But im an optimistic guy so i'll let him have the benefit of the doubt and have his WUM moment and its even funnier seeing Charlie trying to get involved and hang on to NQ and no one ever takes that dude seriously :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

You lot really abused the word "brainwash" lol. :coffee:

A simple 'wash' would be appropriate in most cases.

[Niall_Quinn]

He doesn't no shit about football. It's just as plain as that. I'm done talking and just dismissing. :lol:

Either that or our standards are different, mine being high, yours being subterranean. I'd say agree to disagree, but this is Theo Walcott we're talking about. The fantasy has to have limits. He's proved himself a squad player, he thinks he's a top class player. He's done nothing to demonstrate his belief but he wants the money anyway and his one year contract bullshit tells us he's prepared to head elsewhere to get the cash - unless he has ideas of replacing Aguero or Rooney (and LMFAO if he's that deluded). Is it Theo, is it his agent? A bit of both? Either way, his "feet on the ground", "model young professional", image in swirling around the shitter now. I say flush while he still has this myth around him.

Seriously, who else has any time for these fuckers who are constantly on the make without delivering anything back to the people paying them?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

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[Olivier's xmas twist]

no one ever takes that dude seriously :lol:

Well then you 2 have something in common :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

From what i saw his best game was against Ukraine, fair enough but other then that don't think he was that good. Not his fault the team was shite though.

Better than the goal and assist he got v Sweden? and the overall performance in that game?

:doh:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Better than the goal and assist he got v Sweden? and the overall performance in that game?

:doh:

See he was so poor could not even remember his best game says alot tbh. Knew it was one team in yellow.

[Power n Glory]

Do you think Theo should be CF? Do you think he is fit to play as CF in our current system? NQ might say he is shit but most of
fans would disagree. Theo is decent, but I will not play him as CF or build the team around him. Does Theo also deserved big money contract? I don't think so. :coffee:

If Wenger is willing to try Gervinho up front, Poldoski and Giroud, three very different players, then I can't see why not give Walcott a try.

Gervinho looked lively against Southampton and was pretty hard for defenders to mark. Wouldn't mind seeing him try again. But he has questionable finishing and can make bad decisions in some games.

No idea about Poldoski. Had a quiet game when played up front but will need to see him play more to get a sense of his style. The guy works bloody hard though and he's clincal.

Giroud...question marks on him and whether he's going to fit into our squad. Doesn't seem mobile enough and doesn't really get involved with the build up. Also, verdict is still out on the finishing. But I still think he could be lethal when he gets going.

A for whether Theo is worth £100k...is it worth losing him for nothing? That's even if money is the issue and I doubt it is.

[Niall_Quinn]

I wouldnt say that. NQ is on the WUM which is fine

I dont genuinely believe he actually believes all that crap he says about Theo. He seems too intelligent for that.

If he does though.....oh dear.

But im an optimistic guy so i'll let him have the benefit of the doubt and have his WUM moment and its even funnier seeing Charlie trying to get involved and hang on to NQ and no one ever takes that dude seriously :lol:

I'm not on a WUM. I'm on a zero tolerance policy for the sub-standard ****s who have ruined football. Owners, managers and super-hyped players alike. Zero tolerance. And if all fans were like that the fuckers who are milking it would have to make some changes in order to preserve their incredibly easy ride. And I haven't seen an easier ride that the one Walcott is taking. He's not the only one but that doesn't excuse him. Chamakh doesn't count because he isn't a footballer.

[Cripps_orig]

See he was so poor could not even remember his best game says alot tbh. Knew it was one team in yellow.

Oh dear

Do i really want to continue this with someone who doesnt even know what they are talking about?

I'll have to meditate on it

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Well then you too have something in common :coffee:

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[Olivier's xmas twist]

Oh dear

Do i really want to continue this with someone who doesnt even know what they are talking about?

I'll have to meditate on it

TBF can't really remember who scored what goals for England at the Euro's, Whole team were a bunch of failures and i don't really give a shit.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www.vaq34.com/junk/wtf.gif

Trapped in the closet :bow:

R kelly :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

I'm not on a WUM. I'm on a zero tolerance policy for the sub-standard ****s who have ruined football. Owners, managers and super-hyped players alike. Zero tolerance. And if all fans were like that the fuckers who are milking it would have to make some changes in order to preserve their incredibly easy ride. And I haven't seen an easier ride that the one Walcott is taking. He's not the only one but that doesn't excuse him. Chamakh doesn't count because he isn't a footballer.
See that would make sense if he had come out demanding 100k or whatever but he hasnt to the best of my knowledge so its just you believing your own made up story again.

There are a lot of things i do agree with you on, the diving, football being shit etc etc but Theo a part of that? Really?

I know you dont like him cos you got brainwashed in 2006 and he hasnt become the best player ever since then but what he has become is a fine player and one that will continue to improve. I for one cant wait

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I'm not on a WUM. I'm on a zero tolerance policy for the sub-standard ****s who have ruined football. Owners, managers and super-hyped players alike. Zero tolerance. And if all fans were like that the fuckers who are milking it would have to make some changes in order to preserve their incredibly easy ride. And I haven't seen an easier ride that the one Walcott is taking. He's not the only one but that doesn't excuse him. Chamakh doesn't count because he isn't a footballer.

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[Olivier's xmas twist]

See that would make sense if he had come out demanding 100k or whatever but he hasnt to the best of my knowledge so its just you believing your own made up story again.

There are a lot of things i do agree with you on, the diving, football being shit etc etc but Theo a part of that? Really?

I know you dont like him cos you got brainwashed in 2006 and he hasnt become the best player ever since then but what he has become is a fine player and one that will continue to improve. I for one cant wait

Well he won't be at Arsenal thats for sure.

[Niall_Quinn]

A for whether Theo is worth £100k...is it worth losing him for nothing? That's even if money is the issue and I doubt it is.

No, which is why he's signed for an extra year and will be off in January or the summer. With this guy it's not even a question of wondering, like it was with RvC. Theo will be through the door (closed door no doubt) like a greyhound who can't run bends.

Fuck him, he's gone. Better to focus on the players who want to be here and love the club. There must be one, somewhere.

[Letters]

So hes not allowed a bad game then ever?
One would be OK.
Every other game, not so much.

[Cripps_orig]

TBF can't really remember who scored what goals for England at the Euro's, Whole team were a bunch of failures and i don't really give a shit.

Some advice, kid

Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. It just makes you look foolish

Dont get me wrong, i think you are great for GW. very entertaining and ive often said you are the best poster on here by a mile cos of the entertainment value but when it comes to football, yeah leave it to the rest of us.

[Cripps_orig]

Well he won't be at Arsenal thats for sure.

If he isnt then fuck the ****

[Cripps_orig]

One would be OK.
Every other game, not so much.

Hes played as a winger. Show me a consistent winger,

Even Marc Overmars was a bit shit most of the time.

The player was brilliant though.....

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No, which is why he's signed for an extra year

Did he, thought his contract was still the same but he agrees with Aw he would stay and sort it out?

[Power n Glory]

I wouldnt say that. NQ is on the WUM which is fine

I dont genuinely believe he actually believes all that crap he says about Theo. He seems too intelligent for that.

If he does though.....oh dear.

But im an optimistic guy so i'll let him have the benefit of the doubt and have his WUM moment and its even funnier seeing Charlie trying to get involved and hang on to NQ and no one ever takes that dude seriously :lol:

You can give him the benefit of the doubt but i can't be bothered. Wright, Owen, Defoe...play them on the flanks and they're not all of a sudden going to develop fantastic dribbling and crossing skills. To argue otherwise is foolish and to say their class should shine through regardless is retarded. In what way will it shine through? Theo can't dribble but has a knack for scoring goals. He gets better numbers than a lot of his peers. That's how his talent shines through. It's not gonna coming from dribbling because he's not that sort of player. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's like I'd you switch a centre back to playing as a wing back, he's not going to excel at the attacking side, but he shoul be decent enough to stay back, defend and mark.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Some advice, kid

Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. It just makes you look foolish

Dont get me wrong, i think you are great for GW. very entertaining and ive often said you are the best poster on here by a mile cos of the entertainment value but when it comes to football, yeah leave it to the rest of us.

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[Olivier's xmas twist]

Some advice, kid

Stop commenting on things you know nothing about. It just makes you look foolish

Dont get me wrong, i think you are great for GW. very entertaining and ive often said you are the best poster on here by a mile cos of the entertainment value but when it comes to football, yeah leave it to the rest of us.

Don't call me kid.

[Letters]

I'm struggling to believe there are no consistent wingers in football. I concede I can't name any but that's mostly because I don't really follow football these days, I pretty much never watch non-Arsenal games.
The thing about Walcott is he can be very effective but he can be completely frustrating and anonymous too. And while I accept no player can shine every game, Walcott is poor too often for my liking.
The Spurs game you mention above is Walcott in a nutshell. First half he was just awful (you saying it was a 'couple of minutes' is WUMming and you know it, he was embarrassing and should have been hauled off). Second half he goes and scores 2 goals. Even then one of them he messed up his first touch but recovered well to dink it over the 'keeper.

IMO Ox is already a more complete player than Walcott. Walcott has the potential to be absolutely brilliant but he has to get consistent and he's at the age where he should be getting there.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Titanic :haha:

[milla]

If Wenger is willing to try Gervinho up front, Poldoski and Giroud, three very different players, then I can't see why not give Walcott a try.

Gervinho looked lively against Southampton and was pretty hard for defenders to mark. Wouldn't mind seeing him try again. But he has questionable finishing and can make bad decisions in some games.

No idea about Poldoski. Had a quiet game when played up front but will need to see him play more to get a sense of his style. The guy works bloody hard though and he's clincal.

Giroud...question marks on him and whether he's going to fit into our squad. Doesn't seem mobile enough and doesn't really get involved with the build up. Also, verdict is still out on the finishing. But I still think he could be lethal when he gets going.

A for whether Theo is worth £100k...is it worth losing him for nothing? That's even if money is the issue and I doubt it is.

I think cos Theo doesn't the qualities required to be Wenger's striker. Podolski has pace, technique and power. Giroud has strength, technique, and can hold the ball. Gerv fast, solid dribbler and can take on players. All the guys has more than one strength to enable them to play as CF. Can Theo take on two CBs with his pace? or dribble between FB and CB? can he bring others into play or hold up the ball. That is the bigger question.. Hell Diaby, Arshavin and Baptista have all play as CF before but you can see most of them has more than 2-3 skill set in their bags to play as CF (at least at Arsenal, also it didn't make them a better striker either) but sadly Theo only has his pace, that is the problem.

Football has evolved so much, you will find traditional striker ala Wrighty will never play for big team (look at Defoe and Bent), Theo is the same IMO.

I believe he will be good but he will never be good enough, not because he has bad attitude but he lacks the qualities required to make a good striker (at least at Arsenal).

[Cripps_orig]

You can give him the benefit of the doubt but i can't be bothered. Wright, Owen, Defoe...play them on the flanks and they're not all of a sudden going to develop fantastic dribbling and crossing skills. To argue otherwise is foolish and to say their class should shine through regardless is retarded. In what way will it shine through? Theo can't dribble but has a knack for scoring goals. He gets better numbers than a lot of his peers. That's how his talent shines through. It's not gonna coming from dribbling because he's not that sort of player. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's like I'd you switch a centre back to playing as a wing back, he's not going to excel at the attacking side, but he shoul be decent enough to stay back, defend and mark.Preaching to the choir here.

[Cripps_orig]

Don't call me kid.

Sorry son

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Don't call me kid.

http://laurenoutloud.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/1233445870_ae19b02.gif

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sorry son

If i was you son id request an adoption ASAP.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Sorry son

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/wtf/grand/simon_wtf_gif.gif

[Cripps_orig]

Titanic :haha:

Would it help if i said Leo dying is my best bit?

[milla]

TBF can't really remember who scored what goals for England at the Euro's, Whole team were a bunch of failures and i don't really give a shit.

The rest of England team was shite. Any sane man should never ever use shite as an instrument to measure performance etc :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

See that would make sense if he had come out demanding 100k or whatever but he hasnt to the best of my knowledge so its just you believing your own made up story again.

There are a lot of things i do agree with you on, the diving, football being shit etc etc but Theo a part of that? Really?

I know you dont like him cos you got brainwashed in 2006 and he hasnt become the best player ever since then but what he has become is a fine player and one that will continue to improve. I for one cant wait

If you played in a casino and always lost no matter what hand you had then you would finally realise the table was cheating. I view the media, the clubs, the players as grubby, dirty, dishonest, broken. I prefer to think the worst of them because it seems highly naive to think the opposite. You can only go on experience. Walcott won't sign a huge contract, he'll only sign for a year. If you are a betting man, what does this tell you? I think most of all it tells me he couldn't force a move this summer. Anyway, he doesn't want to commit to Arsenal so the key priority is getting rid of him for the maximum return. Can't see what other value he could have. Sad thing about players like Walcott is even if you saw Arsenal lift every trophy this year he'd still leave. RvC showed us that with bells on. Nasri too, not Cole so much because at least he delivered, but Cashley still gave us an insight into what it really is to be a modern footballer. It was over when he left but it has taken some of us a long time to twig - myself included. But no point waking up and then taking a sleeping pill to revert to the fantasy.

[Cripps_orig]

If i was you son id request an adoption ASAP.:lol:

Look at the posts in this thread. GW is very much alive

[Power n Glory]

Either that or our standards are different, mine being high, yours being subterranean. I'd say agree to disagree, but this is Theo Walcott we're talking about. The fantasy has to have limits. He's proved himself a squad player, he thinks he's a top class player. He's done nothing to demonstrate his belief but he wants the money anyway and his one year contract bullshit tells us he's prepared to head elsewhere to get the cash - unless he has ideas of replacing Aguero or Rooney (and LMFAO if he's that deluded). Is it Theo, is it his agent? A bit of both? Either way, his "feet on the ground", "model young professional", image in swirling around the shitter now. I say flush while he still has this myth around him.

Seriously, who else has any time for these fuckers who are constantly on the make without delivering anything back to the people paying them?

Yep, that's your zone. Bang on the money. Excuse the pun. You're blinkered and money creeps into everything even though this is a conversation about player development, skill and how best to use a player.

[Cripps_orig]

If you played in a casino and always lost no matter what hand you had then you would finally realise the table was cheating. I view the media, the clubs, the players as grubby, dirty, dishonest, broken. I prefer to think the worst of them because it seems highly naive to think the opposite. You can only go on experience. Walcott won't sign a huge contract, he'll only sign for a year. If you are a betting man, what does this tell you? I think most of all it tells me he couldn't force a move this summer. Anyway, he doesn't want to commit to Arsenal so the key priority is getting rid of him for the maximum return. Can't see what other value he could have. Sad thing about players like Walcott is even if you saw Arsenal lift every trophy this year he'd still leave. RvC showed us that with bells on. Nasri too, not Cole so much because at least he delivered, but Cashley still gave us an insight into what it really is to be a modern footballer. It was over when he left but it has taken some of us a long time to twig - myself included. But no point waking up and then taking a sleeping pill to revert to the fantasy.

I dont bet tbh

The house always wins

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The rest of England team was shite. Any sane man should never ever use shite as an instrument to measure performance etc :lol:

tis true.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Would it help if i said Leo dying is my best bit?

Harsh, he is dreamy tbf.

[milla]

A simple 'wash' would be appropriate in most cases.

I like cockwash more, it remind me of ILT and TEG, these board has seen her better days. :coffee:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Would it help if i said Leo dying is my best bit?

Just leave Messi alone.

[Power n Glory]

I think cos Theo doesn't the qualities required to be Wenger's striker. Podolski has pace, technique and power. Giroud has strength, technique, and can hold the ball. Gerv fast, solid dribbler and can take on players. All the guys has more than one strength to enable them to play as CF. Can Theo take on two CBs with his pace? or dribble between FB and CB? can he bring others into play or hold up the ball. That is the bigger question.. Hell Diaby, Arshavin and Baptista have all play as CF before but you can see most of them has more than 2-3 skill set in their bags to play as CF (at least at Arsenal, also it didn't make them a better striker either) but sadly Theo only has his pace, that is the problem.

Football has evolved so much, you will find traditional striker ala Wrighty will never play for big team (look at Defoe and Bent), Theo is the same IMO.

I believe he will be good but he will never be good enough, not because he has bad attitude but he lacks the qualities required to make a good striker (at least at Arsenal).

A lot of RVP's goals last season came from intelligent movement, not solo efforts as you've described. Both Poldoski and Giroud have struggled playing there and haven't been able to impose themselves by dribbling past players. Theo has more than just pace, he has movement and a striker that is always moving is hard to deal with. We've seen him take on big defenders and score, playing up front is different but it's not as if we have any massive success stories right now. When he runs on to a ball, he sorts his feet out quickly, just think of the Chelsea goals. He needs a chance at leat to prove himself.

[Marc Overmars]

Hes played as a winger. Show me a consistent winger,

Even Marc Overmars was a bit shit most of the time.

The player was brilliant though.....

madar chod

[Cripps_orig]

madar chod
:lol:

:hug:

[Niall_Quinn]

You can give him the benefit of the doubt but i can't be bothered. Wright, Owen, Defoe...play them on the flanks and they're not all of a sudden going to develop fantastic dribbling and crossing skills. To argue otherwise is foolish and to say their class should shine through regardless is retarded. In what way will it shine through? Theo can't dribble but has a knack for scoring goals. He gets better numbers than a lot of his peers. That's how his talent shines through. It's not gonna coming from dribbling because he's not that sort of player. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's like I'd you switch a centre back to playing as a wing back, he's not going to excel at the attacking side, but he shoul be decent enough to stay back, defend and mark.

Your argument works if you just assume Walcott is a striker. What a massive assumption. His positional play is catastrophic. His decision making entirely absent. How will this benefit him (or more importantly the team) if he's promoted to the key role? Wouldn't it have been a bit sad if he hadn't scored that sitter yesterday? Make a list, anyone would have scored it. He's shown some good finishing skills once in a blue moon. And for every time he's done that he's fluffed it ten or twenty times more. Seriously though, do you think that's not a fact? He can't pass, cross, shoot, beat a man, exploit space, do any of the things that mark out a top player, not with even minimum consistency - so move him up front?

In one respect I see what you are saying. Bendtner, Chamakh, so why not Walcott? Because we could do with a consistent performer up top. A proper player. We had one, he's gone. RvC carried us last year, are you really saying Walcott could have done it or even got close to it? Based on his development I just don't know where you get this confidence in his ability from. Yes he scored a few, yes he assisted, but if you play him enough times and the 1 in 10 will yield statistics. What's not included in those stats is the extreme wastage.

Anyway, he's gone. If we want to say it's for footballing reasons then fine, we can pretend the money angle is not there and Theo is somehow different, misunderstood, cheated from his legacy. Maybe he'll get his chance as a striker with City, Utd or the Chavs if what you say is true.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep, that's your zone. Bang on the money. Excuse the pun. You're blinkered and money creeps into everything even though this is a conversation about player development, skill and how best to use a player.

I talked about how to best use him - sell him. If he doesn't want to sign then what's the alternative? Give him paper and a pencil and ask him to write down how the team should play, where his position should be, what his wages should be? How you can tolerate a player like this is a huge mystery to me.

[milla]

A lot of RVP's goals last season came from intelligent movement, not solo efforts as you've described. Both Poldoski and Giroud have struggled playing there and haven't been able to impose themselves by dribbling past players. Theo has more than just pace, he has movement and a striker that is always moving is hard to deal with. We've seen him take on big defenders and score, playing up front is different but it's not as if we have any massive success stories right now. When he runs on to a ball, he sorts his feet out quickly, just think of the Chelsea goals. He needs a chance at leat to prove himself.

All strikers have movement (to match their style) and score goals.. RVP's intelligence which he combined with solid technique and strength. Again, this why Wenger never use Theo as striker, he is too one dimensional IMO. And remember it is not just scoring goal at Arsenal, it is about enabling others around you. Theo doesn't have this skills to be playing as CF for Wenger.

It is still early days to judge Podolski or Giroud, that's why I don't use their goal statistic to compare with Theo but rather what they offer on the play. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

A lot of RVP's goals last season came from intelligent movement...

Exactly, another reason why Theo can't play there.


Theo has more than just pace, he has movement and a striker that is always moving is hard to deal with. We've seen him take on big defenders and score, playing up front is different but it's not as if we have any massive success stories right now.

Three times in his whole career? And settling for Theo because the other options are shite is more of an invitation to dive into the transfer market that kiss Theo's arse.

[Power n Glory]

All strikers have movement (to match their style) and score goals.. RVP's intelligence which he combined with solid technique and strength. Again, this why Wenger never use Theo as striker, he is too one dimensional IMO. And remember it is not just scoring goal at Arsenal, it is about enabling others around you. Theo doesn't have this skills to be playing as CF for Wenger.

It is still early days to judge Podolski or Giroud, that's why I don't use their goal statistic to compare with Theo but rather what they offer on the play. :coffee:

I think he's mounted a solid case to be fair. He's scored, was third on our assist charts, Wenger rates his movement off the ball so.....but if Wenger can't use him as a striker, then Theo should leave because there are managers out there that could develop him. So far, from what I've seen of Giroud, he doesn't fit the typical Wenger player that can create for other players. He isn't busy enough and seems a lot more like a typical power striker without the pace.

[Power n Glory]

Your argument works if you just assume Walcott is a striker. What a massive assumption. His positional play is catastrophic. His decision making entirely absent. How will this benefit him (or more importantly the team) if he's promoted to the key role? Wouldn't it have been a bit sad if he hadn't scored that sitter yesterday? Make a list, anyone would have scored it. He's shown some good finishing skills once in a blue moon. And for every time he's done that he's fluffed it ten or twenty times more. Seriously though, do you think that's not a fact? He can't pass, cross, shoot, beat a man, exploit space, do any of the things that mark out a top player, not with even minimum consistency - so move him up front?

In one respect I see what you are saying. Bendtner, Chamakh, so why not Walcott? Because we could do with a consistent performer up top. A proper player. We had one, he's gone. RvC carried us last year, are you really saying Walcott could have done it or even got close to it? Based on his development I just don't know where you get this confidence in his ability from. Yes he scored a few, yes he assisted, but if you play him enough times and the 1 in 10 will yield statistics. What's not included in those stats is the extreme wastage.

Anyway, he's gone. If we want to say it's for footballing reasons then fine, we can pretend the money angle is not there and Theo is somehow different, misunderstood, cheated from his legacy. Maybe he'll get his chance as a striker with City, Utd or the Chavs if what you say is true.

Stop talking. You're out of your element. :lol:

[milla]

I think he's mounted a solid case to be fair. He's scored, was third on our assist charts, Wenger rates his movement off the ball so.....but if Wenger can't use him as a striker, then Theo should leave because there are managers out there that could develop him. So far, from what I've seen of Giroud, he doesn't fit the typical Wenger player that can create for other players. He isn't busy enough and seems a lot more like a typical power striker without the pace.

I can see Theo scoring but I can't see him assisting or holding up the play (as CF) which is why I think he will never play as CF at Arsenal. He will not be able to use his crosses or pull backs to assist (which he did well last season) as much as he used to.

Giroud was top scorer last year in France, still early days to judge him. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

Stop talking. You're out of your element. :lol:

Actually, just double checked and Theo has signed a long term contract to show his commitment to the club, he's released a statement saying he's prepared to knuckle down and win a starting place rather than demand it by right, re-watched his games and it turns out he's the model of consistency and without a doubt has progressed year on year into one of the best players in the league and having thought things through, if he did decide to go elsewhere it would be a great way to repay the club for half a decade of patience.

Turns out you were right about everything. And there's me thinking he was a greedy little spoilt cocksucker who has ideas his talent simply can't match.

I think there's a lesson in this. We need to bend over a lot further for these players - because they're worth it.

[Power n Glory]

I can see Theo scoring but I can't see him assisting or holding up the play (as CF) which is why I think he will never play as CF at Arsenal. He will not be able to use his crosses or pull backs to assist (which he did well last season) as much as he used to.

Giroud was top scorer last year in France, still early days to judge him. :coffee:

It's still early days but he doesn't look like a energetic mobile striker. That doesn't look like his style so it will be interesting to see how he goes about getting goals. He seems like someone that will be dependent on service so we'll need time to gel. As for hold up play...Gervinho played as striker yesterday and he wasn't holding up the ball with his strength. With Theo, I'm thinking quick one two exchanges with other attackers and movement will do th trick to pull players out of position. I'm thinking of how Spain player with Cesc up front for the Euros, how he played with Barca and sort of how Messi plays. Quick one twos and movement around the box to make openings. But anyway, we will have to see. At the moment, I think Gervinho may even be a good option because of his constant movement around the box. Plus, if Wenger has no faith in Theo to play up front, all the more reason for him not to sign a contract. Wenger said that is where his future lies and if Wenger can't develop him into that, he has to let him go.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's still early days but he doesn't look like a energetic mobile striker. That doesn't look like his style so it will be interesting to see how he goes about getting goals. He seems like someone that will be dependent on service so we'll need time to gel. As for hold up play...Gervinho played as striker yesterday and he wasn't holding up the ball with his strength. With Theo, I'm thinking quick one two exchanges with other attackers and movement will do th trick to pull players out of position. I'm thinking of how Spain player with Cesc up front for the Euros, how he played with Barca and sort of how Messi plays. Quick one twos and movement around the box to make openings. But anyway, we will have to see. At the moment, I think Gervinho may even be a good option because of his constant movement around the box. Plus, if Wenger has no faith in Theo to play up front, all the more reason for him not to sign a contract. Wenger said that is where his future lies and if Wenger can't develop him into that, he has to let him go.

With Theo I'm thinking bench and January boot.

[Syn]

I can see Theo scoring but I can't see him assisting or holding up the play (as CF) which is why I think he will never play as CF at Arsenal. He will not be able to use his crosses or pull backs to assist (which he did well last season) as much as he used to.

Giroud was top scorer last year in France, still early days to judge him. :coffee:

But if we're going for 4-6-0 (or near enough like Saturday) then we don't need our CF to assist or hold-up play like Van Persie because they won't play with their back to goal. If we're going with Gervinho up front then I think Theo is also worth a crack. I'm glad Wenger is trying this formation though because I think it suits our players' strengths quite well. Forget about Giroud, he acts as a Crouch plan B.

[Power n Glory]

But if we're going for 4-6-0 (or near enough like Saturday) then we don't need our CF to assist or hold-up play like Van Persie because they won't play with their back to goal. If we're going with Gervinho up front then I think Theo is also worth a crack. I'm glad Wenger is trying this formation though because I think it suits our players' strengths quite well. Forget about Giroud, he acts as a Crouch plan B.

:gp: It's worth a shot because the first goal Gervinho scored, i can see Theo making that sort of movement all day. I'm also thinking about the way Cesc played for Spain. He's far from quick or strong, didn't hold the ball up but he was effective and hard to mark.

[Niall_Quinn]

:gp: It's worth a shot because the first goal Gervinho scored, i can see Theo making that sort of movement all day. I'm also thinking about the way Cesc played for Spain. He's far from quick or strong, didn't hold the ball up but he was effective and hard to mark.

I can see most teams defending the way Southampton did too.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

PNG VS NQ :popcorn:

[milla]

But if we're going for 4-6-0 (or near enough like Saturday) then we don't need our CF to assist or hold-up play like Van Persie because they won't play with their back to goal. If we're going with Gervinho up front then I think Theo is also worth a crack. I'm glad Wenger is trying this formation though because I think it suits our players' strengths quite well. Forget about Giroud, he acts as a Crouch plan B.

RvP is probably the best fake no9 in history, perfect for 4-6-0. If only Theo knows how to dribble, he would be perfect for us. :coffee:

[milla]

:gp: It's worth a shot because the first goal Gervinho scored, i can see Theo making that sort of movement all day. I'm also thinking about the way Cesc played for Spain. He's far from quick or strong, didn't hold the ball up but he was effective and hard to mark.

It is never about shooting but how these players use the ball when there is no shooting option. Any decent striker will get a chance to shoot on goal, especially at Arsenal. :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

It is never about shooting but how these players use the ball when there is no shooting option. Any decent striker will get a chance to shoot on goal, especially at Arsenal. :coffee:

I think you're missing the point. I'm talking about quick movement, agility and being fluid. Giroud doesn't look like he's capable of playing the false 9 role, he's not mobile enough. Will he adjust, time will tell. As said, Theo has great off the ball movement, it's one of his strengths. Defenders will have a harder time keeping track of his movement and if if he's dropping deep to play a quick one two and then rushing in behind defenders, it could cause problems.

I could see why Wenger went for Chamkah. He does link up play when he drops deep but his movement is slow and labored. He drops off to make a pass but his movement is slow. He's not urgent enough or quick enough to lose a marker. We need a different approach. When Ade was on form, he had the size but the key was his constant movement and remember Ferdinand said he hated to defending against him because of it. When he got lazy, that was it for him. The goals dried up. With RVP, it was the same, constantly on the move. If Cesc can find joy at Barca and Spain with this approach then it's worth us seeing what Theo can do. Either that or let him go.

[Power n Glory]

But if we're going for 4-6-0 (or near enough like Saturday) then we don't need our CF to assist or hold-up play like Van Persie because they won't play with their back to goal. If we're going with Gervinho up front then I think Theo is also worth a crack. I'm glad Wenger is trying this formation though because I think it suits our players' strengths quite well. Forget about Giroud, he acts as a Crouch plan B.

http://arseblog.com/2012/09/tactics-column-gervinho-revels-in-arsenals-combination-play/

A piece on Arseblog about Gervinho's role and our formation.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Yeah, I was going to make that comment, Gervil didn't play as a no. 9/10 (or a 9½) but like a 9/11 (or a 9 and 2 ½s).

Him pulling wide right and linking with Chambo and Jenko gives us a natural balance. The left, with the 2 best attacking players (Cazo and Podo) already looks like being the weapon of choice.
The knockout left hook to our more defensive right jab.

It's also good to field some pace and direct running at CF again, it allows us to defend deeper and then counter. Early signs are that Giroud lacks pace, which probably requires us to push higher up the pitch to support him.

The money question then, can Theo perform the same role? I know he sometimes takes the CF role in training, though maybe not as a 9 and 2 halves.
With his pace, finishing and some intelligent movement, he could scare the shit out of centrebacks. But his decision making, vision, passing and technique often fall short.

Correct use of Theo depends on maximising his obvious strengths and minimising his obvious weaknesses, but the deficiencies in his game mean he will always be factory flawed.
As always with Theo, it's the rough with the smooth.

[Master Splinter]

Correct use of Theo depends on maximising his obvious strengths and minimising his obvious weaknesses, but the deficiencies in his game mean he will always be factory flawed.
As always with Theo, it's the rough with the smooth.

Entirely correct.

Or this, if you prefer.

[Niall_Quinn]

The knockout left hook to our more defensive right jab.

Economy of words required here - try using "shit"

[Cripps_orig]

ARSENE WENGER is worried Arsenal fans are now jeering Theo Walcott.
The England star has yet to agree a new contract and was booed by some supporters when he came on during Saturday’s 6-1 win over Southampton.
Walcott, who will be a free agent next summer, completed the scoring although he could remain on the bench for tonight’s Champions League opener at Montpellier.
Boss Wenger said: “It is a worry. You want your players to be supported no matter what contractual situation they are in. I hope it does not affect me or his fans.
“I hope to extend his contract so, at the moment, it does not affect me.”
Walcott, wanted by Chelsea and Liverpool, has turned down an offer from Arsenal worth £75,000 a week but he is understood to be keen to stay.
Wenger added: “Theo is 23 and has gone through a lot. A lot of positives and a lot of negatives.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4543752/Arsene-Wenger-is-worried-Arsenal-fans-are-jeering-Theo-Walcott.html#ixzz26m4XNJPO

I heard no jeers. There must have been 2 or 3 NQ like people there who jeered who the Sun reporter just happened to be sitting near by to?

Anyway agree with Wenger here

[Niall_Quinn]

I heard no jeers. There must have been 2 or 3 NQ like people there who jeered who the Sun reporter just happened to be sitting near by to?

Anyway agree with Wenger here

There are only 2 NQs and one of them is fake. I wasn't at the match so it must have been the fake **** who was booing. Fair enough to boo overpaid tossers who are demanding more cash. Walcott should go into banking if he;s that desperate for money for nothing.

[Cripps_orig]

You are going against Wenger?

Very unlike you.

Usually everything he says and does is right

[fakeyank]

If the c*nt doesnt sign a new contract by the end of the month, send him to the reserves. Fuck him and bitches like him... we have fat fuck for cover! :pray:

[Xhaka Can’t]

If the c*nt doesnt sign a new contract by the end of the month, send him to the reserves. Fuck him and bitches like him... we have fat fuck for cover! :pray:

Why do I need to sign a contract. And wtf is it to do with you?

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

[Xhaka Can’t]

I meant to edit the bit about cover out of fy's post. But I lacked that little bit of sharpness. I should indeed be relegated to the reserves.

So it is off to Goonersworld for me.

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

[Özim]

Funny story this, Wenger thinks that if he hasn't signed by April it will be hard to give him a new contract. I would have thought that if he hasn't decided to leave already he would have by January and will already be looking to sign a pre-contract agreement by then.

Wenger is so deluded, reminds me of the Flamini situation where he was convinced Flamini would sign all season and Flamini kicked dust in his face and said thanks for the memories but I'm off to Milan :lol:

[QUOTE]Arsene Wenger hints at Theo Walcott deal deadline

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has warned it will be "difficult" to extend Theo Walcott's contract if the forward has not agreed a new deal by April.

Walcott is in the final year of his contract and rejected a new five-year deal worth £75,000 a week in August.

"If in April it is not done, you can think it will be difficult to do," said Wenger of further planned negotiations.

Wenger also suggested that he may be reluctant to select the 23-year-old if an agreement is not reached.

Walcott has started only one game so far this season - the club's opening Premier League match against Sunderland - and received a mixed reception from the home fans when he was introduced as a substitute against former club Southampton at Emirates Stadium.
Theo Walcott's Arsenal career

Wenger insisted that the England international's place on the bench was not a consequence of his failure to agree new terms, but admitted that it may come into consideration if the matter remains unresolved.

"I still hope to extend his contract so, at the moment, it doesn't affect me. Of course at some stage..." the Frenchman added ahead of his side's opening Champions League match against Montpellier on Tuesday.

"You want your players to be supported no matter what kind of contractual situation they are in. I hope it will not affect him and that it will not affect our fans."

Walcott, who joined Arsenal in a deal worth about £12.5m ar a 16-year-old in January 2006,"could sign a pre-contract agreeMent with another club il January. By the end of`the seawon, he will be 24 and entitled to move as a free agent at the end of his contrabt.

Arsenal sold striker Robin van Persie to Manchester United for £24m in August after the Dutchman ajnounced that he would not extend his contract which, like Walcott's, was due to expire in June 2013.

Twelve months previously, Arsenal sold Samir Nasri to Manchester City, a year before the end of his own contract, after the French international

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Flami.i's career sincg :haha:

Take heed Theotore.
Yeah he was one of those oNe season wonders, not apsurprise he's disappeared off tle face of the planet since his move, never really had much goinf for him, much like Pleb.

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Flamini's career since :haha:

Take heed Theodore.

Take heed of what exactly? His own fans don't rate him, same goes for the pundits, he's been forever tagged with this 'he lacks a footballing brain' catchphrase and the 'he hasn't developed' headline. It's different to the Flamini situation. I change of scene may do his career good.

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Take heed of what exactly? His own fans don't rate him, same goes for the pundits, he's been forever tagged with this 'he lacks a footballing brain' catchphrase and the 'he hasn't developed' headline. It's different to the Flamini situation. I change of scene may do his career good.

Well, I'm assuming he's holding out for more money?

And it would appear that we have offered him a deal, which he has turned down?

I'm saying that he's not as good as he thinks he is, and that on some occassions (I'm not talking about our best players, Cesc, Henry RVC etc) the grass is not always greener. As Flamini found.

Flamini :haha:

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Well, I'm assuming he's holding out for more money?

And it would appear that we have offered him a deal, which he has turned down?

I'm saying that he's not as good as he thinks he is, and that on some occassions (I'm not talking about our best players, Cesc, Henry RVC etc) the grass is not always greener. As Flamini found.

Flamini :haha:

Money is a factor but I don't think that's the issue and I don't think he's arrogant enough to think he's that good either. If you were in his shoes, what's the appeal of Arsenal and why stay here? That's a question for all in fact. Why should he sign a new contract? What's in it for him?

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I do rate Walcott and think he is (not could be, is) an effective player but realistically I don't think he could do any better than Arsenal. I get the whole self-loathing 'we are shit' thing but when all is said and done, we are a top 8 club in Europe. He won't get more games at the above 7 teams.

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Money is a factor but I don't think that's the issue and I don't think he's arrogant enough to think he's that good either. If you were in his shoes, what's the appeal of Arsenal and why stay here? That's a question for all in fact. Why should he sign a new contract? What's in it for him?

I can't comment. I'm a gooner.

I'd play for Arsenal for £20k per year.