View Full Version : What now for Walcott?
McNamara That Ghost...
26-06-2013, 09:57 PM
What happens in Vegas, gets talked about on Twitter.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
26-06-2013, 10:01 PM
:lol: i heard that too
GHELcott
Injury Time
26-06-2013, 10:01 PM
Strong twitter rumours going around tonight that theo gave head and buttered Arron Lennon when they were in Vegas.
Cripps will be heart broken that it wasn't him :console:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
26-06-2013, 10:03 PM
he probably missed tbf
Ollie the Optimist
26-06-2013, 10:05 PM
he probably missed tbf
Bet Lennon wishes he had. Can't think of anything more embarrasing then being knocked out by Walcott
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
26-06-2013, 10:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNt6qdECYAA2-Qg.jpg
:lol: when will they learn to stop messing with us? we embarrass them enough as it is.
Xhaka Can’t
26-06-2013, 10:18 PM
If this is true, Theo has earned legend status.
deano is a ledge. glad his cuz belled him. blinding.
Cripps_orig
26-06-2013, 11:08 PM
Hope it's not true.
Theo :bow: :bow:
But violence is bad, ofc.
Niall_Quinn
27-06-2013, 09:18 AM
Theo :bow: :bow:
But violence is bad, ofc.
Wasn't violence, it was pest control.
Letters
27-06-2013, 09:20 AM
deano is a ledge. glad his cuz belled him. blinding.
That post is hardly the Queen's English, old bean.
Niall_Quinn
27-06-2013, 09:23 AM
That post is hardly the Queen's English, old bean.
qUeen bitches english = gib mir Geld für meine griechischen entarteten
Fist of Lehmann
28-06-2013, 01:10 PM
Typical Theo. Don't notice him all evening then he nuts one in.
Injury Time
28-06-2013, 02:20 PM
Typical Theo. Don't notice him all evening then he nuts one in.
Is that a quote from Mrs Walcott the morning after their wedding? :unsure:
Penguin
29-06-2013, 09:02 AM
He deserves a bonus for that hahaha :haha:
It's untrue, Lennon wasn't even in Vegas at the time apparently.
Niall_Quinn
29-06-2013, 11:31 AM
It's untrue, Lennon wasn't even in Vegas at the time apparently.
Walcott could have been aiming for somebody else.
It's untrue, Lennon wasn't even in Vegas at the time apparently.
you mean some rumour from twitter landed up being an absolute crock of shit? who would've thought.
still, thankfully the rooney rumour hasn't been rife on there too. so that should mean we are definitely signing him.
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 05:10 PM
http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=4132818
Hoping he gets even better next season. We will need him to as we're getting no striker.
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 06:13 PM
He's working on his finishing but he needs to work on his dribbling this season and how to beat a man. I seriously doubt he has it in him because I've never seen a player that wasn't a natural dribbler improve so drastically. It's going to be another frustrating season unless Wenger corrects the balance on the wings and midfield.
Around the final third he'll contribute a lot but he won't create much further down the field unless he learns how to properly beat a man with his dribbling. I still maintain he should be playing as a striker where he's always in the danger zone and defenders are worried.
Xhaka Can’t
21-07-2013, 06:15 PM
He's working on his finishing but he needs to work on his dribbling this season and how to beat a man. I seriously doubt he has it in him because I've never seen a player that wasn't a natural dribbler improve so drastically. It's going to be another frustrating season unless Wenger corrects the balance on the wings and midfield.
Another frustrating season coming right up!
TBH, to be frustrated about it - you'd need some expectation that does not get matched. As my expectations for Arsenal are so low - I reckon I'll be ok.
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 06:24 PM
You say that now but when the season kicks off.....
Marc Overmars
21-07-2013, 06:29 PM
My expectations are also low but I can't help but be disappointed when the reality of it kicks in. As ultimately I want to be proven wrong.
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 06:46 PM
I'm going out on a limb and predicting a 4th place finish. For Walcott, I predict he'll be inconsistent. If he could improve on the very basics he'd be half decent. He's a luxury player, which was okay when we had talent around him. Now we actually need him on a regular basis, a bad situation to be in.
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 07:07 PM
He's working on his finishing but he needs to work on his dribbling this season and how to beat a man. I seriously doubt he has it in him because I've never seen a player that wasn't a natural dribbler improve so drastically. It's going to be another frustrating season unless Wenger corrects the balance on the wings and midfield.
Around the final third he'll contribute a lot but he won't create much further down the field unless he learns how to properly beat a man with his dribbling. I still maintain he should be playing as a striker where he's always in the danger zone and defenders are worried.
No ones going to be brilliant at all aspects of the game.
Isn't the best dribbler but none of our players cos we don't play that way. We would rather pass our way around the opposition than dribble past them.
Theo's strengths far outweigh his weaknesses though. Can't ask for much more than what he's given us last 2 seasons and he stopped the trend and is the first quality player to not desert us
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 07:10 PM
He's a luxury player, which was okay when we had talent around him. Now we actually need him on a regular basis, a bad situation to be in.
What's a 'luxury' player? Is it like a luxury car owned by a family man struggling to pay rent? A flashy two seater Ferrari or something?
Makes no sense for you to describe Theo in those terms.
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 07:17 PM
No ones going to be brilliant at all aspects of the game.
Isn't the best dribbler but none of our players cos we don't play that way. We would rather pass our way around the opposition than dribble past them.
Theo's strengths far outweigh his weaknesses though. Can't ask for much more than what he's given us last 2 seasons and he stopped the trend and is the first quality player to not desert us
I agree, he represents a reversal of the trend for players to jump ship. Whether this was his choice or the chavs and city didn't want him we don't know. But it's essential he concentrates on the basics like passing and positional play if he wants to develop beyond a random type of player who achieves as much by accident as design. Same with Gervinho, they are similar half players.
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 07:18 PM
Oh dear.
Can't complain. I've wummed enough in the past
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 07:21 PM
What's a 'luxury' player? Is it like a luxury car owned by a family man struggling to pay rent? A flashy two seater Ferrari or something?
Makes no sense for you to describe Theo in those terms.
Makes no sense to you, perhaps. If you have a player that can change one game in ten and then is dire for the other nine you have a luxury player on your hands. Far better to get a journeyman who is solid, if not spectacular, for all ten games. Walcott inadequacies can be compensated when he has better players around him. Those players have been steadily leaving the club.
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 07:24 PM
No ones going to be brilliant at all aspects of the game.
Isn't the best dribbler but none of our players cos we don't play that way. We would rather pass our way around the opposition than dribble past them.
Theo's strengths far outweigh his weaknesses though. Can't ask for much more than what he's given us last 2 seasons and he stopped the trend and is the first quality player to not desert us
It's rare to find the complete player and you can't be good at everything. But to be a winger you must at least be able to beat your man and have good dribbling skills. In list of priorities of attributes if I'm picking a team, wingers should all have good dribbling skills and comfortable on the ball.
Theo is a striker and sees himself that way because his striking ability is his best attribute besides his speed. To me, this is like seeing Owen or Defoe being asked to play on the wing.
Xhaka Can’t
21-07-2013, 07:24 PM
You say that now but when the season kicks off.....
*sigh* You're right.
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 07:28 PM
It's rare to find the complete player and you can't be good at everything. But to be a winger you must at least be able to beat your man and have good dribbling skills. In list of priorities of attributes if I'm picking a team, wingers should all have good dribbling skills and comfortable on the ball.
Theo is a striker and sees himself that way because his striking ability is his best attribute besides his speed. To me, this is like seeing Owen or Defoe being asked to play on the wing.
Theo can finish about one in twenty in style, another testament to his inconsistency. His positional play makes him entirely unsuited to the striker's role. In fact his positional play on the wing makes him entirely unsuited to that role too. He needs somebody to sit him down and go through the basics. If he could become even semi proficient at simple passing and taking on a defender he could put his pace to much better use. Mind you, over the last couple of seasons he has clearly lost some of that pace. And when it goes the poor guy will have literally nothing in his locker.
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 07:30 PM
It's rare to find the complete player and you can't be good at everything. But to be a winger you must at least be able to beat your man and have good dribbling skills. In list of priorities of attributes if I'm picking a team, wingers should all have good dribbling skills and comfortable on the ball.
Theo is a striker and sees himself that way because his striking ability is his best attribute besides his speed. To me, this is like seeing Owen or Defoe being asked to play on the wing.
Exactly. Theo is a striker playing out on the wing. He can do a job there as we have seen but ultimately he's a striker. That's why I'm not too fussed if he doesn't beat players. He produces the goods more often than not. Produces 9 games out of 10 but unfortunately that one game is what some concentrate on
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 07:31 PM
He produces the goods more often than not. Produces 9 games out of 10 but unfortunately that one game is what some concentrate on
It's the exact opposite. No surprise there.
Marc Overmars
21-07-2013, 07:34 PM
I have never read this debate on Theo before.
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 07:35 PM
Makes no sense to you, perhaps. If you have a player that can change one game in ten and then is dire for the other nine you have a luxury player on your hands. Far better to get a journeyman who is solid, if not spectacular, for all ten games. Walcott inadequacies can be compensated when he has better players around him. Those players have been steadily leaving the club.
:lol: That's not a luxury player, dude.
When I think luxury item, I'm thinking designer clothes, flash cars and excessive shit a guy on my salary has no business buying. If you think Theo is shit then he's not a luxury player, is he?
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 07:36 PM
I have never read this debate on Theo before.
Beats the Arteta debate tbh
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 07:36 PM
*sigh* You're right.
:scarf: Get into the spirit!
Marc Overmars
21-07-2013, 07:37 PM
Beats the Arteta debate tbh
What's there to debate? I think most knowledgeable Arsenal fans know he's not very good.
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 07:41 PM
What's there to debate? I think most knowledgeable Arsenal fans know he's not very good.
It wasn't even that I don't think. Stopped reading it
Xhaka Can’t
21-07-2013, 07:46 PM
I have never read this debate on Theo before.
:lol:
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 07:48 PM
:lol: That's not a luxury player, dude.
When I think luxury item, I'm thinking designer clothes, flash cars and excessive shit a guy on my salary has no business buying. If you think Theo is shit then he's not a luxury player, is he?
Didn't say he was shit, said he was inconsistent and lacks some very basic skills. We can't afford players who deliver a decent performance once in ten games, that's the luxury I refer to. As you know.
Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 07:56 PM
A 'decent' performance every so often isn't a luxury.
We have far worse culprits that give that level of performance and I wouldn't call it a luxury.
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 08:01 PM
A 'decent' performance every so often isn't a luxury.
We have far worse culprits that give that level of performance and I wouldn't call it a luxury.
I agree, we have players that are even worse than Walcott. Didn't say we don't. Would be nice to have a decent winger who can pass and cross, that's all. Or a basic/ staple if you prefer.
Letters
21-07-2013, 09:16 PM
Someone work out if this means he's any good or not. Fanx
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/fanzone/theo-walcotts-goals-for-arsenal-complete-analysis/
http://i.imgur.com/WaeFl8x.gif
Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 09:53 PM
It means he's a bog standard, average player in a privileged role. Stick an accomplished player in there and those numbers rocket.
Fist of Lehmann
21-07-2013, 10:57 PM
Someone work out if this means he's any good or not. Fanx
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/fanzone/theo-walcotts-goals-for-arsenal-complete-analysis/
Having read this analysis here are the conclusions you could draw:
1) Theo has improved his goal tally slowly but steadily, year on year (try not to shit your drawers after that particular bombshell)
2) Does Theo score important goals? Answer, yes. But at a fairly constant rate throughout his career.
And it only took him 8 data tables and the horrible realisation that he was wasting his life to figure it out.
Also, you're welcome.
:tiphat:
Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:11 PM
Someone work out if this means he's any good or not. Fanx
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/fanzone/theo-walcotts-goals-for-arsenal-complete-analysis/
Yes he is.
/thread
Reopen thread
He can do better, of course he can but 20+ goals a season in the worst arsenal side in decades is pretty good. If he had the likes of Bergkamp, Pires etc instead of Arteta and Diaby, he'd be much better.
Right player, wrong time.
That is all
/thread
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 08:47 AM
It means he's a bog standard, average player in a privileged role. Stick an accomplished player in there and those numbers rocket.
:lol: Like who? As Theo said, most wingers only manage 10 to 15 goals a season.
Not even our Highbury greats got 20 goals in one season from outwide.
Letters
22-07-2013, 09:08 AM
IMO he's our most assured finisher, his crossing could be better and my real worry about him - for a player with his pace - is his ability (inability, rather) to beat players. He seems too easy to stop when he's running with the ball, he runs into trouble too often. Needs to improve that.
Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 10:11 AM
His development has been painfully slow but at this moment in time he is an important player for us, admittedly this probably has more to do with him being one of the better ones from a bad bunch. Also any player who holds out for a big contract is always going be scrutinised that little bit more, given the cynical nature of your average football fan.
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 10:51 AM
His development has been painfully slow but at this moment in time he is an important player for us, admittedly this probably has more to do with him being one of the better ones from a bad bunch. Also any player who holds out for a big contract is always going be scrutinised that little bit more, given the cynical nature of your average football fan.
Has it really been that slow in comparison to other young players at Arsenal? Most of the 16 year olds we buy end up playing lower league football. Wenger really isn’t that good at developing really young players (16-18). Theo, Cesc, Song and Clichy are the only guys I recall making it to the first team from reserves. Look at the countless others like JET, Sunu, Aliadière, Quincy, Bendy, Lupoli, Vela, Merida, Bentley, Pennant…..it’s a long list of failures.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 10:53 AM
Quincy :lol:
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 10:59 AM
IMO he's our most assured finisher, his crossing could be better and my real worry about him - for a player with his pace - is his ability (inability, rather) to beat players. He seems too easy to stop when he's running with the ball, he runs into trouble too often. Needs to improve that.
Did you watch our most assured finisher against the Vietnamese? Yes, only a friendly, but to miss so badly on every occasion? He'll do that 19 times out of 20 in the coming season. Then he'll score one that reminds of Henry. That doesn't make him an assured finisher, it makes him by far the most inconsistent player in the squad.
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:04 AM
:lol: Like who? As Theo said, most wingers only manage 10 to 15 goals a season.
Not even our Highbury greats got 20 goals in one season from outwide.
Half his goals are +1s of no consequence and it was only towards the end of last season he started to score a few valuable goals to rescue an otherwise very ordinary set of statistics. But, as I have stated, it's not just about the goals he scores. It's also about the way the play breaks down around him 9 times out of 10. Or his terrible crossing, bar the 1 in 10. Or his dreadful positional play. And the way he can be anonymous for the whole 90 minutes. Like Giroud he's good enough if the height of our ambition is 4th. If we want to push on we'll need better players than Walcott.
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 11:09 AM
Half his goals are +1s of no consequence and it was only towards the end of last season he started to score a few valuable goals to rescue an otherwise very ordinary set of statistics. But, as I have stated, it's not just about the goals he scores. It's also about the way the play breaks down around him 9 times out of 10. Or his terrible crossing, bar the 1 in 10. Or his dreadful positional play. And the way he can be anonymous for the whole 90 minutes. Like Giroud he's good enough if the height of our ambition is 4th. If we want to push on we'll need better players than Walcott.
NQ, stop. Just give it a rest. Your opinion means fuckall to me on this topic.
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:12 AM
NQ, stop. Just give it a rest. Your opinion means fuckall to me on this topic.
Well argued. On this evidence Walcott is one hell of a player.
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 11:13 AM
Quincy :lol:
Spartak Moscow, Celta Vigo, Birmingham City, Cardiff City, Pompey, Malaga, Panathinaikos.
He flushed his career down the toilet since leaving us and will continue to club hop.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:19 AM
NQ, stop. Just give it a rest. Your opinion means fuckall to me on this topic.
Ignore it as I have.
A simple NQ :haha: after every time theo humiliates NQ helps a lot.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:19 AM
Spartak Moscow, Celta Vigo, Birmingham City, Cardiff City, Pompey, Malaga, Panathinaikos.
He flushed his career down the toilet since leaving us and will continue to club hop.
Youth project :bow:
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:25 AM
Ignore it as I have.
A simple NQ :haha: after every time theo humiliates NQ helps a lot.
He's putting in another utterly convincing performance on ESPN right now if you want to have a laugh.
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 11:26 AM
Youth project :bow:
Google all of them. I don't think any of them have gone on to have stable careers since leaving.
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:30 AM
Google all of them. I don't think any of them have gone on to have stable careers since leaving.
Same will be true for Walcott.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:38 AM
He's putting in another utterly convincing performance on ESPN right now if you want to have a laugh.
You might judge him on pre season friendlies. I'll go by the last 2 seasons
Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 11:44 AM
You might judge him on pre season friendlies. I'll go by the last 2 seasonsNQ's opinion can't be trusted, period.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:50 AM
NQ's opinion can't be trusted, period.
He's WUMming.
Notice how he had no answer to the point you made in reply to his laughable stick an accomplished player where theo is and the numbers rocket and you said not even Pires etc got 20 from out wide.
He changed goal posts and went on to another thing to criticise about theo.
It's a classic WUM move. Done it myself many a time so I ain't complaining. Just laughing at NQ.
Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:51 AM
He's putting in another utterly convincing performance on ESPN right now if you want to have a laugh.
Just scored
I think a NQ :haha: will suffice
Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:51 AM
Stop crying guys, it's embarrassing.
http://i.imgur.com/WaeFl8x.gif
Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 12:30 PM
Who is that? She seems like someone I should be having sex with.
Dunno, she was on some show about transgender men.
fakeyank
22-07-2013, 03:33 PM
Dunno, she was on some show about transgender men.
:haha:
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