Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

[Özim]

Sign him and then loan him back, I don't get it he's 21 not 17, especially if you're spending 8 million quid on him.

There's some stories saying QPR are going to sign him.

[LDG]

I think we should sign a right back and Darth Vader.

<_<

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'd be surprised if it happened..... but who knows.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Amazingly, it seems that Balise Matuidi's contract is up this summer.....

[Marc Overmars]

Amazingly, it seems that Balise Matuidi's contract is up this summer.....

Get Paul Pogba tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Amazingly, it seems that Balise Matuidi's contract is up this summer.....

http://currentworldmedia.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/dharmesh-sheth-image-004.jpg

He's ready.

[Power n Glory]

Amazingly, it seems that Balise Matuidi's contract is up this summer.....

Yep, I saw that. Jeremy Menez too.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Anything interesting happening or is there still a huge waste of space debate goin on about how we didn't sign negredo?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Yep, I saw that. Jeremy Menez too.

Yeah saw that too.... don't know much about the lad though....

There's quite a few decent players out of contract or with only a little while left this summer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Great news!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2540947/Spurs-set-raid-Lille-Kalou-former-Chelsea-man-heading-London-talks.html

[Grebbo]

Great news!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2540947/Spurs-set-raid-Lille-Kalou-former-Chelsea-man-heading-London-talks.html

It's amazing how many shit players create fantastic careers for themselves and are seemingly always in demand. Kalou's made fortunes from being, at best, an average footballer. There really must be a very small pool of talented footballers in the world.

I hope to fuck that Spurs buy him.

[Özim]

Thank f*ck for that, he's absolute rubbish, I was always scared he might end up with us.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenget says there has been good progress on contract talks with Sagan and BFG.

[WMUG]

I thought they signed the other day? :unsure:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

About time with Sagna. I'd be delighted to see him here for a long time to come.

[I am invisible]

Me too, especially as he's shown himself to be an accomplished CB option when called upon - I suspect it will be a lot easier finding a future RB than another good CB, and I'm not sure I see Vermaelen sticking around if he remains 3rd choice...

[I am invisible]

Also, BFG for captain next year, I reckon, (once he's signed)...

[LDG]

Also, BFG for captain next year, I reckon, (once he's signed)...

We don't want to curse him FFS!!

I'd give it to Nicky B to make sure he fucks off this time.

[milla]

http://youtu.be/x55xRkz-2Mg?t=2m17ss

Look at Wenger's face when they asked him about Draxler :D

Such an underrated WUM. :coffee:

[GP]

Wouldn't rule out Berbatov either...

[Özim]

http://youtu.be/x55xRkz-2Mg?t=2m17ss

Look at Wenger's face when they asked him about Draxler :D

Such an underrated WUM. :coffee:

Should have asked him about Luis Suarez to see what face he pulled then.

They might have been worried he might bite I guess.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Should have asked him about Luis Suarez to see what face he pulled then.

They might have been worried he might bite I guess.

Have to say even though he's very frustrating on the transfer front i love how he toys with the media at times, you can tell he's quite pleased with himself in general at the moment because he wouldn't have come out with the UFO quip he would have just flat out denied that Draxler was at our training camp.
I like when Wenger is in a good mood because a) it means Arsenal are doing well and b) he's much more fun to watch and listen to in press conferences.

[Penguin]

I doubt Wenger's even interested in Draxler. He might have been when he thought Draxler would cost £20m but he was scared off last summer when Schalke asked for double that and he bought Ozil instead.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Also, BFG for captain next year, I reckon, (once he's signed)...

We don't want to curse him FFS!!

I'd give it to Nicky B to make sure he fucks off this time.
:d
I like the fact that Mertesacker seems the natural leader in the group.....on and off the field with his debt collecting duties. There are players who would only take it upon themselves once made the official captain, but he just seems a natural leader. It's not all up in peoples faces and screaming, frothing at the mouth and spitting at them, so I think the group genuinely both respect and love him.


I doubt Wenger's even interested in Draxler. He might have been when he thought Draxler would cost £20m but he was scared off last summer when Schalke asked for double that and he bought Ozil instead.

That would be my worry too....

I thought it was interesting when asked about talented German players (many months ago I believe) Wenger mentioned a handful of exceptional German players which included Draxler.... He needn't of mentioned Draxler at all, such is the current quantity of talented Germans and considering Draxler's age but he did. He didn't mention Reus interestingly. Now clearly he thinks Reus is a good player to say the least, a short of mentioning 20 German names he had to stop somewhere, but I did think it was indicative of him particularly rating Draxlerand having him in mind.

I know we paid a (then) record for Pennant, but I think Wenger isn't all that keen on paying huge sums for young players (though he often favours them) and I think that is what eventually put him off Goetze.

[Munchies]

Some italian journalist saying that United are after Tommy V

https://twitter.com/search?q=Vermaelen&src=tren

:shrug:

[Munchies]

Mirror saying that Sagna talks have again broken down...

ffs :doh:

[GP]

Mirror :doh:

[saintnickle]

Some italian journalist saying that United are after Tommy V

https://twitter.com/search?q=Vermaelen&src=tren

:shrug:

Thats him gone then..Wenger will sell to the anyone if the price is right.Shame it doesnt work the other way round.Anyone who thinks we are going to spend another penny this window are in dreamland.20-30 million a season is our max.

[Dein-machine]

Thats him gone then..Wenger will sell to the anyone if the price is right.Shame it doesnt work the other way round.Anyone who thinks we are going to spend another penny this window are in dreamland.20-30 million a season is our max.

If thats the case then the fans should be told. We were told at the start of this year that with the Emirates now paid for we are able to compete in the transfer market to bring success. 20-30 mill a year is not going to do that, we could have spent that during stadium repayments. If we don't spend on a top quality striker/winger the goals will start to dry up becuase we become to predictable. Without Walcotts pace we will have to rely on goals from midfield, like Santi got on Sat which took an hour & that was against Fulham. We simply won't score enough against the stronger teams.

[Munchies]

Chelsea have done a deal with Luke Shaw ( according to twitter lol ) .

There's this going round, which apparently SS deleted straight afterwards:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BecXp2TCUAA3QHZ.png

Bloody hell, if it does happen, he must cost in the region of around £25m+

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/lemmetweet/tweet/imgs/jOhcvpIxQjuOKCbynNxzuDSA.jpg20140120-2-w9yg3e?1390245336

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Where's WayneGooney?

[Gooner23]

Sky sources? Isn't that just the twit who stands in front of the big screen reading out newspaper rumours.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we finally assembled all the pieces of the puzzle then we probably wouldn't need to spend beyond 30 million each window anyway. Particularly as a net cost. Instead we have gone into pretty much every window for the last several years, full in the knowledge and the personal belief even, that the squad is incomplete. That has helped create a continuous chorus line of 'we need to spend on.....' from the fans.

It's about time we put all the pieces of the puzzle together. I think we are 1 maybe 2 pieces missing. After that any changes to be made become about team dynamics rather than gaping holes or missing cogs.

[Munchies]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/lemmetweet/tweet/imgs/jOhcvpIxQjuOKCbynNxzuDSA.jpg20140120-2-w9yg3e?1390245336

:lol:


Where's WayneGooney?

Just searched... he's back :haha:
https://twitter.com/WayneGooney19

He got suspended and deleted all of his websites after all his BS was BS

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He's still trying to convince everybody he has any idea what is going on.

[Maestro]

He's still trying to convince everybody he has any idea what is going on.

what with this gem?

"My mum changed the wireless password when she went snooping around my browser history. I'm back now though."

yeah ITK

[McNamara That Ghost...]

In the Kitchen.

[Maestro]

In the Kitchen.

:lol: that's definitely got to be it

[Munchies]

United close to signing Mata for £37m

Source: Telegraph

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BedO9jWIYAAFXMq.jpg

Wow.

[Injury Time]

Wenger to bid £37m and little bit one pound :good:

[Munchies]

Would be funny if he does end up going and they still miss out on top 4

Moyes :bow:

Considering Wenger was after Draxler, I don't think he'll mind having another midfielder like Mata. But we had a chance to get him before, but he didn't want to offer an extra £2m back then.

[Marc Overmars]

I hope United don't get Mata, he's the sort of midfielder they've needed for years. Having said that though, they still have a host of turds in the squad to keep the overall level of quality down.

[Munchies]

I hope United don't get Mata, he's the sort of midfielder they've needed for years. Having said that though, they still have a host of turds in the squad to keep the overall level of quality down.

Hopefully PSG can come in for him.

Redcafe are dreaming again !

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/mata.372687/page-21

:haha:



Then... in the Summer:


RVP

Mata - Rooney - Januzaj

Gundogan - Vidal

...and all of a sudden we have a title winning side.

[JonasTC]

Are they forgetting they already have a title winning side? Its the manager thats the problem :haha:

[GP]

Chelsea won't sell him to Utd.

They wouldn't even let us borrow shite like Ba.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I know they are an arrogant bunch but they must not be allowed to get Vidal.

[Niall_Quinn]

£37mill for a player that can't get a game? How the fuck do the fees go up the less the player plays? Must be more media bullshit and I doubt Maureen would sell him to Utd anyway, it'll be some sort of bait to force the price up for PSG or Monaco.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS this better not be true. Most of the papers are going with it though.



If it is ...... Mourinho is such an odious twat. He's knows us and the Gypos still have to play them and with Mata in their that increases the possiblity of them getting something. He must really regard Utd as a spent force.

Sell your unwanted to mid table teams so that they can take points of your rivals. :rolleyes:

[AFC Leveller]

Mata wont turn then into chapmions on his own, they need at least 3 world class players and a new manager to really chalenge again.

I still dont understand why we havent snappned up Berbatov yet? he's allegedly available for 1.5m, has lots of experience and has scored goals in this league for years. Its a no brainer for me.

He's more of a goal threat then Giroud.

[BOBN]

£37m Thats a great deal for Chelsea if it comes off.

£55m for Mata and De Bruyne. Two C-level squad players. Hell in a handcart.

[Power n Glory]

Chelsea won't sell to Man Utd. Mourinho will step on their necks and let them suffer because of the summer management snub.

[Marc Overmars]

We've supposedly rejected an enquiry from Napoli for Vermaelen. Rightly so, we don't have much cover at CB.

[Master Splinter]

Straight swap for Higuain or Hamsik.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bild reporting that Bayern are interested in Rosicky!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfers/2432939/Premier-League-Transfer-Talk.html


FFS, give him three years at once Wenger! Keep him at all costs.


Other stuff




Reports in Germany suggest that Bayern Munich are interested in Thomas Rosicky, whose contract expires soon. (Bild) (German)

Real Madrid striker Alvaro Morata has ruled out moving to Arsenal, Liverpool or Tottenham in January, instead opting to stay at the Bernabeu. (Express)

West Ham manager Sam Allardyce says he would be keen to sign Arsenal defender Thomas Vermaelen. (Metro)

Arsene Wenger wants Juventus striker Mirko Vucinic, 30, on loan to boost the club's title hopes. (Telegraph)

Arsenal are tracking Barcelona's young forward Munir El Haddadi, with Paris St-Germain and Bayern Munich also interested. (Metro)

[Özim]

It's looking more and more likely that we won't sign anyone which would be a shame for our chances of success.

[footloose, the wanderer]

I still dont understand why we havent snappned up Berbatov yet? he's allegedly available for 1.5m, has lots of experience and has scored goals in this league for years. Its a no brainer for me.

He's more of a goal threat then Giroud.

Jesus wept no - he has to be the laziest bastard in football - doubt he covers 1/2 km a game

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'm not so sure Chelsea won't sell..... 37 million is a lot of money to turn down for a player Mourinho sees as a bench player.

Although I'm not sure the fact Manure are willing to pay that much is fact either....

On our side of things.....it doesn't look like we will be signing anything.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Jesus wept no - he has to be the laziest bastard in football - doubt he covers 1/2 km a game

Although the control and pass he did to set up that Fulham player who's name escapes me, was pretty sweet.....

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Read somewhere that Schalke general manager has said that Draxler is going nowhere this month or in the summer. I'll see if I can find the page.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Read somewhere that Schalke general manager has said that Draxler is going nowhere this month or in the summer. I'll see if I can find the page.

Found it ....http://www.london24.com/sport/arsenal/schalke_chief_rules_out_julian_draxler_arsenal_swi tch_now_and_in_summer_1_3231353

[Power n Glory]

I think we’ll wait until deadline day. Berbatov may be available but if we buy him, it practically ends our search for a striker. I think the scouts will and should work until they find a player that is top notch. If such player isn’t on the market…snap up Berbatov. It’s a short term deal and we can always try again in the summer.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Have to admit that I always liked Berbatov as a player, despite him having played for two of the most detestable clubs known to mankind. Lazy bastard he is, he's still one of those players that make the game seem so easy.

I'd have no aversion to him joining us, tbh, and sweetening the pot more by getting a few goals against the scum lot and mancfilth.

[footloose, the wanderer]

Sorry I don't want Sheldon Coopers evil twin brother coming to us

Anyway - no way does he fit into our "pass and move" philosophy, after "pass" he' s done!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Not really sure why Fulham will be happy to let go of their best player close to the end of the window? For a couple million? Their survival would be worth a lot more.....

[Dein-machine]

[QUOTE=The Emirates Gallactico;361938]Bild reporting that Bayern are interested in Rosicky!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfers/2432939/Premier-League-Transfer-Talk.html


FFS, give him three years at once Wenger! Keep him at all costs.

If Bayern are offering good money for Rosicky I would take it. He's a good player but he's not the future. Have another clear out end of season with the likes of Bendtner, Miyachi, Jenkinson, - we won't buy anyone this transfer window so I would suggest that with these sales plus the £40 mill balance from last summer plus another years profits, we should have £100 mill + to spend. We have the World Cup as our window to buy Drexler, Vidal & Suarez/Agureo type striker.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Maybe so but we've done enough planning for tomorrow over the last several years....

I'd really be inclined to keep him and I think the fact the best team in Europe and arguably the best Bayern side of all time are interested in him at his age is indicative of the level he is still at.

He's important for us in the league and the CL. A rolls royce of a player.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9127125/chelsea-to-listen-to-offers-for-reported-manchester-united-target-juan-mata

FUCK.

[Marc Overmars]

Maybe so but we've done enough planning for tomorrow over the last several years....

I'd really be inclined to keep him and I think the fact the best team in Europe and arguably the best Bayern side of all time are interested in him at his age is indicative of the level he is still at.

He's important for us in the league and the CL. A rolls royce of a player.

Yep I'd keep him as well.

He's our longest serving player and a real good head to have around in the changing room. Plus he's pretty handy on the pitch as well even if he can't play all the time, but that just makes him very useful in terms of keeping things fresh and rotating. Give him a couple more years, he's earned it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

On Berba: He isn't their best player, well I mean he is on paper and their most talented but if he's not going to be performing to any level that's going to help them, little point in keeping him. Especially compounded if he wants to leave.

[Master Splinter]

If it wasn't obvious enough anyway, the Rosicky thing is nonsense:

Andrew Allen ‏@AAllenSport (https://twitter.com/AAllenSport/status/425625825363243009)


Rosicky to Bayern rumour appears to stem from Czech press quoting Sports Direct News. Case closed. Nothing to see here. Utter bollocks.

[Power n Glory]

If it weren't for Rosicky's injuries he's be first on the team sheet for every game. Has great chemistry with whoever he's playing alongside. Would be silly to lose him. Players like Ozil and Cazorla love him. Ozil was in the press not so long ago saying he's one of the best in the Prem. A player's player.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

On Berba: He isn't their best player, well I mean he is on paper and their most talented but if he's not going to be performing to any level that's going to help them, little point in keeping him. Especially compounded if he wants to leave.
If he can't perform to a reasonable level for Fulham under the exceptional coach he had at United which many revered, how's he going to do it here when we really need him to.

I think they would rather keep him in the hope they can get a tune out of him, than simply get rid him and weaken their squad and subsequently their chances of staying up.

If they have a replacement in mind, perhaps, they might see the value, but I don't get why they'd be happy with such a deal otherwise to be honest.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If he can't perform to a reasonable level for Fulham under the exceptional coach he had at United which many revered, how's he going to do it here when we really need him to.

I think they would rather keep him in the hope they can get a tune out of him, than simply get rid him and weaken their squad and subsequently their chances of staying up.

If they have a replacement in mind, perhaps, they might see the value, but I don't get why they'd be happy with such a deal otherwise to be honest.

I'm not sure I really want him here but I imagine his motivation levels would be different, given we're top of the league with a good midfield and Fulham...well aren't, with Sidwell and Parker behind him.

They're not going to be happy whenever they lose him, so maybe best now whilst they can more for him perhaps. Clubs sell and buy routinely; they sold Dembele, Dempsey and Zamora. I don't think they're going to keep Berbatov for much longer.

[Master Splinter]

Have to admit that I always liked Berbatov as a player, despite him having played for two of the most detestable clubs known to mankind. Lazy bastard he is, he's still one of those players that make the game seem so easy.

I'd have no aversion to him joining us, tbh, and sweetening the pot more by getting a few goals against the scum lot and mancfilth.

He'll always have the ability to produce a Berba moment when he controls a ball with one sublime touch or puts in a lovely outside-of-the-foot cross, but those moment occur roughly once a month now.

He has been shockingly poor for Fulham this season and even struggles to put away tap-ins now.

This may be because he thinks he's too good for Fulham, but that would make wanting him here even more bizarre. We finally have a group of players who back up their talent with the required hard work needed to display it on a consistent basis. Berbatov is a pre-madonna who would disrupt the balance. The aforementioned fact that he's most likely lost it makes him an absolute Must Not Get.

Besides, we've got Dimitar Ozil to languidly spray balls around while not giving a fuck.

[GP]

Pre-Madonnas :bow:

[fakeyank]

Have to admit that I always liked Berbatov as a player, despite him having played for two of the most detestable clubs known to mankind. Lazy bastard he is, he's still one of those players that make the game seem so easy.

I'd have no aversion to him joining us, tbh, and sweetening the pot more by getting a few goals against the scum lot and mancfilth.

:gp:

Realistically, this is as close to the best option we have left. I think we should move right away and get this done.

[Marc Overmars]

Dennis Bendtner and Park will be gone in the summer, so if we could get Berbatov on an 18 month deal that could be ideal. If he's shite at least we wouldn't be burdened with him and we could still look for a super quality striker in the process. I've always been a fan of his and I'd like to think his level of motivation and interest would change if he joined us given we are approximately a billion times better than Fulham.

Don't see it happening though, you can count on one hand the amount of domestic players Wenget has ever signed.

I think it's safe to write this January off, nothing to see here.

[Master Splinter]

I think it's safe to write this January off, nothing to see here.

Exactly wrong.

[Syn]

Hard to agree.

[Power n Glory]

:gp:

Realistically, this is as close to the best option we have left. I think we should move right away and get this done.

Too early to draw that conclusion. We don't know all our options yet. But he's not a bad option to have.

[Munchies]

Guess Mata will be moving then
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9127493/talks-between-manchester-united-and-chelsea-over-juan-mata-going-well

Lol at United though, they don't want to pay £32m for Mata but paid £28m for Fellaini :haha:

Think they'll get him for around £35m though, United are desperate for a big signing.

[Özim]

Mata is a quality player who scores a lot of goals, I think he'll improve them a lot, goalscoring midfielders are hard to find.

[I am invisible]

Maybe Mourinho's just stringing them along until the deadline, like they did with us and Ba?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Yeah, I'd prefer it if that transfer didn't happen. Unless JW Henry wants to get in on the act....

The Telegraph are claiming Real will go for Rooney in the summer.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I still think wenger will pull something off by the end of the window.

I'm usually very sceptical and critical of his transfer windows, but even I can't imagine him throwing away the best chance in years of us strengthening to win silverware or two.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Now that the chavs have played the mancs twice, I wouldn't put it past that odious cunt Maureen to sell Mata to the mancs in hopes they pick points off the other top teams, as the season progresses.

[-Xs-]

I still think wenger will pull something off by the end of the window.

I'm usually very sceptical and critical of his transfer windows, but even I can't imagine him throwing away the best chance in years of us strengthening to win silverware or two.

http://northlondonisred.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/wenger.jpg

[Grebbo]

Chelsea are nuts, they should be taking Man U to the fucking cleaners. They're 7th in the league and are fucked.

Chelsea should be demanding £50m. They should be flexing their muscles and basking in Man U's desperation.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Lol.

The sun today reckon we've drawn up a £35m package for drawer which includes Lucas podolski going to schalke.

That's funny :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Lol.

The sun today reckon we've drawn up a £35m package for drawer which includes Lucas podolski going to schalke.

That's funny :lol:

Julian Drawer :bow:.

[GP]

He really is top Draxler.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

What is Mourinho playing at? What the fuck is he playing at?

[Marc Overmars]

He obviously doesn't see United as a threat anymore.

[Master Splinter]

Mourinho is a petty, infantile internet warrior. He's probably invented an imaginary feud with Mata - who just wants to play football - and thinks he'll have won by selling him. Mourinho is a manchild.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Ridiculous argument.

By handing them a player with the 2nd most assists in the league since 2011/12 he'll make them a threat again.

The empire finally crumbles but Mourinho deals them a hand to rise again. Idiot

[Özim]

If he thinks it will help them take points of his rivals and doesn't see a place for him in his team, it's actually quite clever.

[Marc Overmars]

Ridiculous argument.

By handing them a player with the 2nd most assists in the league since 2011/12 he'll make them a threat again.

The empire finally crumbles but Mourinho deals them a hand to rise again. Idiot

I agree but Mourinho only thinks short term. Given they can't directly affect him anymore he probably thinks he's devised some cunning plan to affect his rivals.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

If he thinks it will help them take points of his rivals and doesn't see a place for him in his team, it's actually quite clever.

What does he do next season? Ask for a bye against them?

[Özim]

What does he do next season? Ask for a bye against them?

If he sells him to Man U clearly he feels his team will be more than good enough to deal with Mata, especially as he'd know him pretty well.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The reports are saying over 40 million which is a lot of money. Ozil money in fact. I know they don't need it, but turning it down makes Mata a very expensive bench player.

To be honest, Manure are just going to spend 40 million on some other top midfielder if not Mata in the summer. In fact they may well sign Mata for a huge fee and still make 1 or 2 further massive signings in the summer.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Maybe he's planning to...

http://i.imgur.com/Y9iJ6Lc.gif

...although it didn't really work too well.

If it were anyone else but Mourinho, the Chelsea fans would be up in arms with the prospect of this transfer. As it is they'll no doubt lap it up. Hopefully it's just Jose playing a massive trick on everyone, and he'll sell him to us.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Mourinho is Mourinho, it never worked for him at Real Madrid because the club was too big for him to treat as his own personal fiefdom. It was known from the time that he took over that Mata wasn't his type of player...and to be honest we have too many players similar to Mata to make a bid for him worth while.
I don't really understand why Moyes didn't go for the spaniard in the summer, but to be fair he is totally useless and his record at Everton has been massaged to make him look more competent than he actually is.

[Niall_Quinn]

The real question is WTF are city up to? 37mill would be cheap for a bench player by their lack of standards. Do they not realise somebody else will get Mata if they don't bid?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The only hope is that Mourinho is just trolling Utd as punishment for Rooney last summer, making them ignore all other targets and concentrate all their resources on Mata only to pull the rug at the 11th hour leaving Utd without anyone. He's the sort of guy that would do that.


I doubt it though. Even after their win on Sunday he was so slavish about them (they didn't deserve to be 2 - 0 down) , speaking about them in a manner that you'll never hear him when talking about us. :rolleyes: Maybe he still holds some faint hopes of getting that job?

[Özim]

The real question is WTF are city up to? 37mill would be cheap for a bench player by their lack of standards. Do they not realise somebody else will get Mata if they don't bid?

What has this got to do with City? :unsure:

[Fist of Lehmann]

It's all part of City's master plan. Buy every player on earth and then loan them out.

Since no player would then be able to play against them they win all the trophies by default and corrupt utterly the notion of 'sport'.

:good:

[Niall_Quinn]

What has this got to do with City? :unsure:

They can buy bigger benches, they have the money. No excuse for them not to be bidding, it's sheer complacency.

[BOBN]

Ridiculous argument.

By handing them a player with the 2nd most assists in the league since 2011/12 he'll make them a threat again.

The empire finally crumbles but Mourinho deals them a hand to rise again. Idiot
I guarentee he wont do anything at United.

No need for the conspiracy theories. Mourinho just doesnt rate him and rightly so.

[Özim]

Man U have bid in the region of £35 million for Mata, BBC confirms:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25849959

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

According to Matt Law from the Telegraph, Mata has "told friends and family" he will join United.

[Marc Overmars]

Unless Mourinho is going to pull off the ultimate WUM, this will happen. United are desperate.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If he thinks it will help them take points of his rivals and doesn't see a place for him in his team, it's actually quite clever.

Sell them Hazard too then.

[Munchies]

Done deal according to loads of media sources.

Ballague saying the deal is £45m ... wow, what a signing

[Penguin]

Good signing

I still don't understand why he's not getting games for Chelsea let alone being sold to a rival :unsure:

[Ollie the Optimist]

this deal makes aboustley no sense. mata strengthens united any way you look at it and weakens chelsea. the argument that mata could take points off us and city this season is bollocks because what happens next season when its all level again? the only thing i can think of why mourinho is allowing this, is that he has a deal for rooney lined up in return but if that isn't in writing and united get mata, i hope they stick two fingers up at the smug cunt and he's left looking stupid.

now given the shit everyone gave AW for selling our best player to united when he had no choice, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is to mourinho selling his best player to united. he's not even forced into it

[Marc Overmars]

Mata is not Chelsea's best anymore player in fairness.

[Ollie the Optimist]

If he thinks it will help them take points of his rivals and doesn't see a place for him in his team, it's actually quite clever.

then loan him. what happens if mourinho doenst win the league this season even if mata takes points off us and city and then next season every one is level again and he's fucked.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Mata is not Chelsea's best anymore player in fairness.

was last year and the year before.

[Marc Overmars]

was last year and the year before.

Indeed he was but they've been fine without him this season, they're selling a player they perceive to be surplus. It's not the same as when we've sold our top players.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Indeed he was but they've been fine without him this season, they're selling a player they perceive to be surplus. It's not the same as when we've sold our top players.

but they haven't though have they? their football has been woeful (though that could be mourinho just being boring and thuggish) they've really struggled away from home and in europe despite qualifying.

[Özim]

then loan him. what happens if mourinho doenst win the league this season even if mata takes points off us and city and then next season every one is level again and he's fucked.

He'll strengthen in the summer and that 45 million will come in handy, I think the team isn't as he wants it at the moment, they'll be stronger next season.

[Munchies]

That £45m will go towards either Falcao/Cavani/Costa in the summer

I just hope United fuck up badly this season. If they get top 4, they'll likely push on in the summer after sacking Moyes :lol:

[Özim]

but they haven't though have they? their football has been woeful (though that could be mourinho just being boring and thuggish) they've really struggled away from home and in europe despite qualifying.

If you look at it they kinda have, they're only 2 points behind in the league and have got through in the CL. If they were 10 points behind you'd have a point but they are right in it at the moment and since Mata is largely not playing his sale isn't going to change anything for them.

[Marc Overmars]

but they haven't though have they? their football has been woeful (though that could be mourinho just being boring and thuggish) they've really struggled away from home and in europe despite qualifying.

So with Mata in the side they'd be sweeping all before them?

[Ollie the Optimist]

He'll strengthen in the summer and that 45 million will come in handy, I think the team isn't as he wants it at the moment, they'll be stronger next season.

the 45 million doesn't really come that much in handy because they can't spend it given they made a 50 million or so quid loss this year, they have to make a 3 million profit or something close to that next year due to FFP regulations. its gives them some money towards it but not new players.

he's selling his best player of the last two seasons to united. you hammered wenger for that when he did it, find it odd that you are making excuses for mourinho here. Mata is a star player who has won everything he possibly can in football bar the title, every manager bar mourinho has got the best out of him. id say that tells us more about mourinho then mata

[Ollie the Optimist]

So with Mata is the side they'd be sweeping all before them?

not quite my point. my point was they were better last year and year before with him in the side. played better football and won both european competitions and the cup. the only trophy they will realistically challenge for this year is the title and i don't think they will win it. so yes mata in the side was better IMO.

[Özim]

the 45 million doesn't really come that much in handy because they can't spend it given they made a 50 million or so quid loss this year, they have to make a 3 million profit or something close to that next year due to FFP regulations. its gives them some money towards it but not new players.

he's selling his best player of the last two seasons to united. you hammered wenger for that when he did it, find it odd that you are making excuses for mourinho here. Mata is a star player who has won everything he possibly can in football bar the title, every manager bar mourinho has got the best out of him. id say that tells us more about mourinho then mata

Yeah not even sure how that works, clubs are making losses left right and centre, think you'll find the money will be spent.

Mata isn't their best player though is he, he's a bench player who has no future in Mourinho's team, the equivalent would be Wenger buying someone expensive, never playing him and then selling him.

[Marc Overmars]

not quite my point. my point was they were better last year and year before with him in the side. played better football and won both european competitions and the cup. the only trophy they will realistically challenge for this year is the title and i don't think they will win it. so yes mata in the side was better IMO.

Chelsea will challenge for trophies regardless, that's just what they do by hook or crook.

[Munchies]

Just curious, if Mata is worth £45m, how much would Cazorla go for ?

£25m-£30m?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah not even sure how that works, clubs are making losses left right and centre, think you'll find the money will be spent.

Mata isn't their best player though is he, he's a bench player who has no future in Mourinho's team, the equivalent would be Wenger buying someone expensive, never playing him and then selling him.

No the equivalent would be Wenger buying someone, that player being the clubs best player for two seasons, then a new manager turning up and thinking he is the best thing ever and benching said best player because he likes to look in control and powerful.

Mata was chelseas best player last season and the season before. the fans voted him that honour too. he's a regular for spain, improves any side greatly if he plays for them. what happens if mata gets untied top four football and in the summer players decide they want united over chelsea? mourinho is left having sold his best player, strengthened a rival and helped further strengthen them by allowing the mata signing to convince others to go to united.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The special one, clearly doesn't fancy Mata and it is clear he isn't all that bothered about the fact that when he came there Mata was their best player. I tend to look critically at the benching of Mata but he has got away with it because Chelsea are within touching distance and the popularisation of the view that Mata slows the play down (which I think has been quite overstated).

From Mourinho's point of view he has made a fortune on a player he didn't rate, but from Chelsea's point of view they are most certainly weaker (as a squad), which can't really be argued against.

Quite comically it may still not be enough to ensure that they win anything or that they finish in the top 4, though Moyes' teams traditionally finish well.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Just curious, if Mata is worth £45m, how much would Cazorla go for ?

£25m-£30m?

easily the same as Mata though their real value wouldn't be 45 million. i think both are worth 30-35 million. id say both are the same level as each other, equal in everything.

[Munchies]

easily the same as Mata though their real value wouldn't be 45 million. i think both are worth 30-35 million. id say both are the same level as each other, equal in everything.

Yeah, they both seem to be on par with each other for me too, especially when Santi has played in the centre rather than out wide as he has done this season. Chelsea are lucky that United are desperate though.

I just hope United fail this season, that £45m along with the CL money loss will result in their best players leaving.

[Özim]

No the equivalent would be Wenger buying someone, that player being the clubs best player for two seasons, then a new manager turning up and thinking he is the best thing ever and benching said best player because he likes to look in control and powerful.

Mata was chelseas best player last season and the season before. the fans voted him that honour too. he's a regular for spain, improves any side greatly if he plays for them. what happens if mata gets untied top four football and in the summer players decide they want united over chelsea? mourinho is left having sold his best player, strengthened a rival and helped further strengthen them by allowing the mata signing to convince others to go to united.

Mata doesn't fit into his team, whether he was the best player in the previous two seasons is irrelevant, Mourinho has a proven record who who are we to argue with his decisions. At the moment Mata doesn't play, if he's not going to play him why not recoup 45 million and spend it on someone that will play?

Chelsea have enough pull without having to worry about Man U signing players they want to be honest.

[Özim]

easily the same as Mata though their real value wouldn't be 45 million. i think both are worth 30-35 million. id say both are the same level as each other, equal in everything.

No chance, Mata is 25 Cazorla is 29.

Cazorla is a top player but Mata is more of a goal threat, IMO that would attract a slight premium.

[GP]

Good signing

I still don't understand why he's not getting games for Chelsea let alone being sold to a rival :unsure:

Just can't force his way into the side past the might of Mikel and Ramires.

lol

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we're being honest too....had Wenger benched RvP the year before he flogged him to the devils and in spite of that challenged for the title, the decision to sell him would have been much less frowned upon.

RvP was much more important for us back then than Mata is for Chelsea....and incidentally, RvP is a much better player than Mata.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Mata doesn't fit into his team, whether he was the best player in the previous two seasons is irrelevant, Mourinho has a proven record who who are we to argue with his decisions. At the moment Mata doesn't play, if he's not going to play him why not recoup 45 million and spend it on someone that will play?

Chelsea have enough pull without having to worry about Man U signing players they want to be honest.

mata has fitted into every team he has played in, including a champions league winning side, a world cup winning side too. Managers like Arsene etc all wanted to sign him yet mourinho is the only one who doesn't rate him? id say most would argue with his decision except you, its difficult to argue with mourinho when you have his cock in your mouth

[Ollie the Optimist]

No chance, Mata is 25 Cazorla is 29.

Cazorla is a top player but Mata is more of a goal threat, IMO that would attract a slight premium.

both scored 12 goals each in the league last season. try again

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

No chance, Mata is 25 Cazorla is 29.

Cazorla is a top player but Mata is more of a goal threat, IMO that would attract a slight premium.

I actually think that Cazorla is more talented but Mata has been more consistent over his premier league tenure.

On pure footballing ability there are very few players in this division more talented than Cazorla is......which is why it is frustrating to me personally when he falls below the level of his capabilities. There's nothing he can't do with a ball......but the most talented players aren't unanimously the most consistent.

[Özim]

mata has fitted into every team he has played in, including a champions league winning side, a world cup winning side too. Managers like Arsene etc all wanted to sign him yet mourinho is the only one who doesn't rate him? id say most would argue with his decision except you, its difficult to argue with mourinho when you have his cock in your mouth

Oh he were go, I was waiting for you to pull out the childish nonsense, you couldn't help yourself could you, well done : pat on back:

He doesn't want him, he doesn't want to play him, different managers have different ideas, he's not the 1st manager to sell the teams perceived "best player" because he doesn't fit in with his plans and he won't be the last.

[Özim]

I actually think that Cazorla is more talented but Mata has been more consistent over his premier league tenure.

On pure footballing ability there are very few players in this division more talented than Cazorla is......which is why it is frustrating to me personally when he falls below the level of his capabilities. There's nothing he can't do with a ball......but the most talented players aren't unanimously the most consistent.

Cazorla is very talented, they are slightly different players IMO, Cazorla is more skillful and has better vision but Mata is much more a goal threat and more direct. In terms of value though the age plays a large part in that, at 29 Cazorla won't be able to command as high a fee.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

mata has fitted into every team he has played in, including a champions league winning side, a world cup winning side too. Managers like Arsene etc all wanted to sign him yet mourinho is the only one who doesn't rate him? id say most would argue with his decision except you, its difficult to argue with mourinho when you have his cock in your mouth

:lol:

[GP]

:lol:

:haha:

Game. Set. Match.

[Özim]

both scored 12 goals each in the league last season. try again

Look back at their careers and come back to me, Cazorla scored more than he usually does last season so how about you try again?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I should say that, was quite childish, but it did make me laugh! lol....

[Özim]

:haha:

Game. Set. Match.

#WUM

[GP]

I should say that, was quite childish, but it did make me laugh! lol....

It's funny because it's true.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Oh he were go, I was waiting for you to pull out the childish nonsense, you couldn't help yourself could you, well done :pat on back:

He doesn't want him, he doesn't want to play him, different managers have different ideas, he's not the 1st manager to sell the teams perceived "best player" because he doesn't fit in with his plans and he won't be the last.

no i coulnt help myself but thats partly because I'm fed up of seeing you defend city/chelsea to the hilt yet hammer everything Arsenal/Wenger do even when its the same things. you make excuse after excuse for city and mourinho yet not for the team you claim to support. you barely seem to watch our matches despite us being top yet seem to see most of city's matches etc.

you hammered wenger for selling our best player to united, despite one bad season, it doesn't mean they aren't rivals to us or chelsea yet chelsea's best player for the last two seasons is being sold to them yet because its mourinho, suddenly he isn't that good a player or mourinho is that good he can cope with mata if he plays for united.

ask yourself this, if AW was selling Cazorla to united right now because we had cover, and he never played, would you be defending AW like you are mourinho now? would you fuck

[Ollie the Optimist]

Look back at their careers and come back to me, Cazorla scored more than he usually does last season so how about you try again?

my nan could be a goal threat in la liga. its fair to compare to last season. the season before mata scored about the same in the league. so 12 is about his average goals in the league each season. very decent return, but not what id call a goal threat.

[Özim]

no i coulnt help myself but thats partly because I'm fed up of seeing you defend city/chelsea to the hilt yet hammer everything Arsenal/Wenger do even when its the same things. you make excuse after excuse for city and mourinho yet not for the team you claim to support. you barely seem to watch our matches despite us being top yet seem to see most of city's matches etc.

you hammered wenger for selling our best player to united, despite one bad season, it doesn't mean they aren't rivals to us or chelsea yet chelsea's best player for the last two seasons is being sold to them yet because its mourinho, suddenly he isn't that good a player or mourinho is that good he can cope with mata if he plays for united.

ask yourself this, if AW was selling Cazorla to united right now because we had cover, and he never played, would you be defending AW like you are mourinho now? would you fuck

Ask yourself whether if posting random insults at people is going to encourage a good discussion and make people take you seriously.

I didn't even mention Arsenal, this is nothing like what we've done, he's not their best player and he doesn't play, we've never done the same thing I'm afraid.

You really need to listen to yourself.

[Heisenberg]

I'm shocked that this move looks to be on the cards. I really hope it doesn't happen.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ask yourself whether if posting random insults at people is going to encourage a good discussion and make people take seriously.

I didn't even mention Arsenal, this is nothing like what we've done, he's not their best player and he doesn't play, we've never done the same thing I'm afraid.

You really need to listen to yourself.

he's selling one of europes best players to direct rivals (maybe not this season but in the long run they still are) which will strengthen them. we've done the exact same as that. sold one of europes best players to our direct rivals which has strengthened them.

whats the difference? oh yes, one manager is one you love, the other is the manager of the club you claim to support

[Özim]

my nan could be a goal threat in la liga. its fair to compare to last season. the season before mata scored about the same in the league. so 12 is about his average goals in the league each season. very decent return, but not what id call a goal threat.

Mata has played one more season in the PL so if anything that supports my point of view :lol:

His career record is superior.

Cazorla Apps - 367 Goals - 63
Mata Apps - 348 Goals 89

Plus as I've said he's 29 so would cost less.

[Özim]

he's selling one of europes best players to direct rivals (maybe not this season but in the long run they still are) which will strengthen them. we've done the exact same as that. sold one of europes best players to our direct rivals which has strengthened them.

whats the difference? oh yes, one manager is one you love, the other is the manager of the club you claim to support

He's not one of Europe's best players, he's very good but there are lots of players at his level, we have a few ourselves. We sold our players when they were at their peak and key to our team, Mata isn't a key player, he doesn't play.

[Ollie the Optimist]

He's not one of Europe's best players, he's very good but there are lots of players at his level, we have a few ourselves. We sold our players when they were at their peak and key to our team, Mata isn't a key player, he doesn't play.

in the two seasons Mata was voted chelsea player of the year, they won the champions league, the fa cup and the europa league.

fairly impressive that, if he was voted their player of the year it probably means that everyone thought he was the main reason why they won those competitions so therefore he is very likely to have a similar impact at any club he plays in so he will strengthen united.

mourinho at madrid in three years won 2 trophies (3 if you include community shield), mata in two years at chelsea won 3 trophies. so mata in a worse team then the amazing mouirnho had at madrid won more trophies and was voted by everybody who watched that chelsea team to be their key player.

he will strengthen united, it doesn't matter if he is playing now or not, he strengthens them therefore that is mourinho strengthening a direct rival yet you still defend him, despite hammering wenger for the same thing

[Özim]

in the two seasons Mata was voted chelsea player of the year, they won the champions league, the fa cup and the europa league.

fairly impressive that, if he was voted their player of the year it probably means that everyone thought he was the main reason why they won those competitions so therefore he is very likely to have a similar impact at any club he plays in so he will strengthen united.

mourinho at madrid in three years won 2 trophies (3 if you include community shield), mata in two years at chelsea won 3 trophies. so mata in a worse team then the amazing mouirnho had at madrid won more trophies and was voted by everybody who watched that chelsea team to be their key player.

he will strengthen united, it doesn't matter if he is playing now or not, he strengthens them therefore that is mourinho strengthening a direct rival yet you still defend him, despite hammering wenger for the same thing

Did he get any awards (not ones given by his own club)? He was good but don't push it one player does not maketh a team.

You can cherry pick any combination of results, but fact is Mourinho has won a hatful and won trophies at every club he's been at, comparing a players record of winning trophies vs a managers is pointless, the manager has much more input than one player alone.

Yes he'll strengthen Man U, clearly Mourinho isn't worried, if he spends the 45 million and makes the Chelsea team better team by signing a player they need it will be a good move.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Did he get any awards (not ones given by how own clubs)? He was good but don't push it one player does not maketh a team.

You can cherry pick any combination of results, but fact is Mourinho has won a hatful and won trophies at every club he's been at, comparing a players record of winning trophies vs a managers is pointless, the manager has much more input than one player alone.

Yes he'll strengthen Man U, clearly Mourinho isn't worried, if he spends the 45 million and makes the Chelsea team better team by signing a player they need it will be a good move.


a hatfull? what the fuck are you drinking? he was at madrid and won 2. thats not a hatful, thats shit for a manager with one of the best players to ever play football in team then other players like ozil etc. chelsea cannot spend that 45 million due to FFP, they have to make a 3 million pound profit.

you could argue (not that you would) that in selling the judas, AW has actually strengthened the team, we look a better team right now, and are challenging for the title, which we only really did once with judas playing for us. your defence of what mourinho is doing, is just odd. he is strengthening a direct rival, its the worst crime in the world and wenger should be sacked when he did it yet it seems to be great plan from mourinho. you keep telling us you love fast pacey attacking football which is something mourinho doesn't do, he isn't a great manager i don't get your love in for him. he's done the same in selling mata to united as AW did with judas, yet one you hate, one you love. its odd

[Özim]

a hatfull? what the fuck are you drinking? he was at madrid and won 2. thats not a hatful, thats shit for a manager with one of the best players to ever play football in team then other players like ozil etc. chelsea cannot spend that 45 million due to FFP, they have to make a 3 million pound profit.

you could argue (not that you would) that in selling the judas, AW has actually strengthened the team, we look a better team right now, and are challenging for the title, which we only really did once with judas playing for us. your defence of what mourinho is doing, is just odd. he is strengthening a direct rival, its the worst crime in the world and wenger should be sacked when he did it yet it seems to be great plan from mourinho. you keep telling us you love fast pacey attacking football which is something mourinho doesn't do, he isn't a great manager i don't get your love in for him. he's done the same in selling mata to united as AW did with judas, yet one you hate, one you love. its odd

He won a hatful in his career. Sh*t manager, really? Have you seen what he's won, in addition manager's at Real haven't done particularly well, he did Ok.

As for the spending we'll see, you might find out you're wrong there when they do spend big on a player.

You couldn't have said that at the time as RVP was our top goalscorer and our main forward, he wasn't a bench player and looking at our position if we had him in the team right now we'd be even better as we clearly lack a top striker.

Like I said if Mourinho doesn't rate him and he hasn't played what's the logic behind keeping him if he can sell him and then replace him with something he thinks they need.

You keep comparing what we've done with what he's doing but there's two differences, firstly Mata isn't a regular and has had no influence on them this season since he doesn't play, secondly Chelsea will most likely reinvest this money on a top player, whereas we use to sit on it and buy someone unknown as a replacement.

I've not watched that much of Chelsea, but I've never said their football is great, however Mourinho has proven he wins, he's done it at every club, I have however commented on Man City's football as it's superior to everyone else's and the style the play in is my preference (I think we should play like this, just like we use to).

[Marc Overmars]

Medical tomorrow apparently.

I hope we aren't Dids'd by Mata next month. :sick:

[Niall_Quinn]

Astonishing fuck up by Mourinho. I can only assume the chavs are up against the wall on FFP or something like that. Add this to that dodgy deal where they bought back a player at a loss. Do they have some sort of a money laundering operation going on?

[Munchies]

CONFIRMED: Juan Mata will have a medical at Manchester United tomorrow after a £37m (45m Euros) fee was agreed with Chelsea.

[Ollie the Optimist]

not that i want to see united get mata, but i really hope mata leads united to finish above chelsea now. mourinho wouldn't be able to cope with that.

[Munchies]

not that i want to see united get mata, but i really hope mata leads united to finish above chelsea now. mourinho wouldn't be able to cope with that.

Hopefully, but its unlikely.

I'd rather see United fail miserably with Mata now, lose out on champions league money, and then have their players jump ship and be in mid-season mediocrity/relegations tbf for a long time

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I find it a bit odd given Chelsea could easily face Man Utd in the Champions League (ok so Mata can't play in it but the point is...he now can't play in it).

Still a good signing for Man Utd no doubt. Moyes will probably find a way to injure him with his dinosaur training methods though.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Hopefully, but its unlikely.

I'd rather see United fail miserably with Mata now, lose out on champions league money, and then have their players jump ship and be in mid-season mediocrity/relegations tbf for a long time

as much as it would be funny to see united fail, seeing mourinho sell a player thinking he is the dogs bollocks for it and it backfiring would be equal to us winning the league.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mata won't make a huge difference, Utd have problems all over the pitch and they'll need to spend big to correct them. But even then they have a problem several magnitudes bigger which can't be overcome with a few signings - Moyes.

This is good news. The Utd fans will be calmed by this and it will buy Moyes more time to keep destroying the club. Plus the chavs lose their best player. It's a good day all in all if not a totally inexplicable.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS this seems to be a done deal now.

It's just a patently retarded move from Chelsea. Even if there are no short term consquences (Mata is clearly surplus to requirements right now) there are going to be long term consquences of this. It gives Man Utd a possible stay of execution from the potential collapse of their empire.

It's in Chelsea's interests (as well as ours and City's) to keep Man Utd outside of the top four and avoid them any possiblity of regrouping again for the title. They're much more likely to finish fourth, keep RVC & Rooney and recruit the calibre of players they need to compete again for the title again, if they make a massive signal of intent by signing Mata now. It would be so much more preferable for a new lower tier without the current infrastucture or pedigree like an Everton, Liverpool or even Spurs to get it ahead of them.

Fuck you Mourinho.

[Munchies]

Fuck you Mourinho.

I fucking hate this cunt and their club and their shit fans more so than any other team. I'd rather they get into liquidation than the Spuds, that's how bad I hate them.

He didn't want to sell/loan us Demba Ba ffs :haha:

[Munchies]

Twitter saying that Wenget and Gazidis are watching Valencia play tonight

Do they even have anyone decent left ?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He didn't want to sell/loan us Demba Ba ffs :haha:

I suggested it before but I think he still has some faint hopes of getting the United job which is why he hasn't acted like a tool to them the same way he has to the rest of the PL. Weasel is still trying to curry favour from the Utd board.

If we were in United's current position (7th and desperate) I'm certain he'd tell us to piss off.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Twitter saying that Wenget and Gazidis are watching Valencia play tonight

Do they even have anyone decent left ?


Valencia aren't playing?

Don't you mean the Levante vs Barca game? :huh:


Cheeky bid for Messi on the cards?

[Marc Overmars]

Twitter saying that Wenget and Gazidis are watching Valencia play tonight

Do they even have anyone decent left ?

Helder Postiga. :good:

[Munchies]

Valencia aren't playing?

Don't you mean the Levante vs Barca game? :huh:


Cheeky bid for Messi on the cards?

Ah yes that's it sorry.


Helder Postiga. :good:

Was funny how he lead Portugal for ages, still think he's chosen for them even now (he's in their fifa 14 squad :lol:)

[Syn]

Nooooooo! FFS!! That's it. We're fucked. That scumbag Mourinho...here he goes again with his amazing mind games, selling a player he doesn't need for £37m just to piss us off.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ah yes that's it sorry.

*Furiously googles Levante's first team players*

[Munchies]

*Furiously googles Levante's first team players*

Alex Song tbf :coffee:

Here they are:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BenT6w4IAAIVq7A.jpg

Everyones speculating that we're after Reuben Garcia, a right winger who's ... not even in their squad tonight... Fucking idiots on twitter :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

That's an old picture of Wenger!! And it's from the Emirates box!



Last time I'm trusting twitter. Cripps was rite all along. :coffee:

[Munchies]

That's an old picture of Wenger!! And it's from the Emirates box!



Last time I'm trusting twitter. Cripps was rite all along. :coffee:

Okay, no more twitter BS :getcoat:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Even TalkSport are dropping mentions of Twitter now (apart from mentioning they're dropping it every minute).

[Ollie the Optimist]

this is a supposed picture of AW tonight. if you look by his left arm, there is half a face that looks like Gazidas.

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/124862700.jpg?w=650&h=425&crop=1#038;h=671

[Syn]

Hes watching a game in Spain? Should've worn his sleeping bag coat. zzzzz amirite?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

That half-head is indeed Gazidis.

But it isn't from tonight.

[Ollie the Optimist]

That half-head is indeed Gazidis.

But it isn't from tonight.

it looks like it was taken this season as that looks like one of our new club suits but do you know when it was taken then?

[Ollie the Optimist]

dortmund away in 2011. oh well https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/champions-league/2011/0913/284803-borussiadortmund_arsenal1/

[Syn]

Lollie.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

We should resign don mannone. 3 great saves in a pen shoot out against the mancs. And they were very good saves at that.

[Master Splinter]

Mata won't make a huge difference, Utd have problems all over the pitch and they'll need to spend big to correct them. But even then they have a problem several magnitudes bigger which can't be overcome with a few signings - Moyes.

This is good news. The Utd fans will be calmed by this and it will buy Moyes more time to keep destroying the club. Plus the chavs lose their best player. It's a good day all in all if not a totally inexplicable.

Exactly right.

As proved tonight. United are woeful. But a decent manager would be able to extract positive performances from that team. The squad being aged/shit is a terrible excuse. There's still loads of talent there. If Moyes wasn't British, he'd be hounded out of the country and every move of his would be pathetically scrutinized. As it is, we'll continue to hear 'Poor David Moyes' stories. He's doing a great job for every non-United fan. Lomg may it last.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We should resign don mannone. 3 great saves in a pen shoot out against the mancs. And they were very good saves at that.

Almunia was also superb at saving penalties. shit at everything else mind

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Almunia was also superb at saving penalties. shit at everything else mind

Aye. Very true. Didn't see the game but fired up a stream for the shoot out. Damn good saves but very poor penalties. Hopefully Mata saw the game and has second thoughts about joining united.

[Munchies]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25849959

It's done now, completed tomorrow.

Oh well, atleast Moyes is still there.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's not the direct influence Mata will have on Utd will have on the pitch. Mata or not they're not likely to get back to the top three nor does it even catergorically secure them top four. He's not that good of a player to singlehandly accomplish that.

It's about the bigger long term picture. You all saw what happened to us after we signed Ozil - it rejuvenated the club, made us a more attractive proposition and generally increased our standing amongst the footballing elite. By signing someone like Mata it increases the chances of them finishing top four and thus keeping RVC and Rooney and attracting top quality calibre players to compete once again.

To quote AVB, Man Utd are in a downward spiral. It's for all our benefits (City, Chelsea and us) to keep them there instead of giving them a hand up to get back on track.

[KSE Comedy Club]

How will Juan Mata be able to sign his contract with all the shit pens at Old Trafford?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

lol Daily Fail falling for the twitter bollocks about Wenger being at the Barca game tonight :doh:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2544195/Levante-1-Barcelona-4-Messi-pulls-strings-milestone-400th-hat-trick-assists-Tello.html

[KSE Comedy Club]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger was in the stands to watch Tello take his three goals excellent

What?? :shrug:

[WMUG]

What?? :shrug:

I won't go full linguistics nerd and explain why he made that mistake, but suffice to say he meant his three excellent goals.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I won't go full linguistics nerd and explain why he made that mistake, but suffice to say he meant his three excellent goals.

Ok, I thought so, just never seen it laid out in that way before :good:

[selassie]

It's not the direct influence Mata will have on Utd will have on the pitch. Mata or not they're not likely to get back to the top three nor does it even catergorically secure them top four. He's not that good of a player to singlehandly accomplish that.

It's about the bigger long term picture. You all saw what happened to us after we signed Ozil - it rejuvenated the club, made us a more attractive proposition and generally increased our standing amongst the footballing elite. By signing someone like Mata it increases the chances of them finishing top four and thus keeping RVC and Rooney and attracting top quality calibre players to compete once again.

To quote AVB, Man Utd are in a downward spiral. It's for all our benefits (City, Chelsea and us) to keep them there instead of giving them a hand up to get back on track.

This.

I am not worried about Man U this season, I personally feel we will finish above them unless we have a major collapse.

Saying that I am not particularly looking forward to playing them as we will most likely have to face Rooney, RVP, Mata and Januzaj. They have very good attacking options, it's there Midfield and Defence which is the problem and needs major investment.

I still don't understand why Chelsea are selling them Mata, doesn't make any sense to me, he's a proven top class PL Performer and still hasn't peaked.

[AFC Leveller]

Chelsea were lucky they played them during their crisis and without their two strikers. We'll probably face a confident and full strength Man ure and although id love us to piss all over them, they will be a different animal.

[PGFC]

So, nothing it is then.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I think it was personal between the two of them…to be fair..Maureen could have priced him at 50million and Man U still would have paid it!!! They are that desperate. Read the Telegraph saying that Maureen will go for Barkley now…but Id take Mata any day over Barkley. Think he's made a huge error here---would be interesting to see the reaction of chelsea fans! Clearly their best player being sold. Hazard and Oscar no where near with playmaker awareness...

[GP]

Chelsea fans are still sucking his dick, so they support it.

If it was Rafa doing the exact same thing he'd get slaughtered.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I have a feeling we are going to sign Benteke! :)

[GP]

Hope not.

[Dein-machine]

I'm still struggling to understand any advantages of leaving the Drexler signing until the Summer. If its a case of Signing him now but leaving him at Shalke for the rest of the year, then so be it but if that's not the case what can we gain. If he has an impressive end of season & a good world cup his value will rise even more & we could have the likes of Madrid & Bayern bidding aswell. The negotiations would also take time during a period when we must also be looking for a top striker & defensive midfielder. Surely it would be better to use the £37 mill from this years budget so that it doesn't effect next seasons. The boy is quality & I would imagine Wumger would listen to advise from Merts & Ozil about him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our signings will be last minute on 31st Jan, if there are any at all.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I liked the last min signings of Arteta and Merts …so here's hoping...

[Fist of Lehmann]

I have a feeling we are going to sign Benteke! :)

Belay that feeling.

They did just buy Grant Holt as a direct replacement, but maybe that was for squad width.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I have a feeling we are going to sign Benteke! :)

Morning Vodka. :bow:

[AFC Leveller]

Maureen knows Man ure still have to play us, City and Pool so he's giving them all the help he can.

Chelsea fans wont say shit as Mauren has them in his pocket.

[Power n Glory]

My Chelsea mates aren’t impressed. One thinks he’s still trying to get in with the United board. He really is a piece of shit. I also think he’s gone all Sun Tzu and trying to pull off his Art of War tactics. He doesn’t have to worry about playing United again so he’s tried to pull a chess move. The rest of the title contenders have to play them. Ass wipe of a man.

[Power n Glory]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9129348/transfer-news-arsenal-manager-arsene-wenger-says-january-signing-unlikely

:doh:

I hope he's bluffing!

[Marc Overmars]

Wenget's gonna Wenget.

[Özim]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9129348/transfer-news-arsenal-manager-arsene-wenger-says-january-signing-unlikely

:doh:

I hope he's bluffing!


The old classic:

"Overall we have a very strong squad. If something exceptional turns up we will do it but having said that not everybody will strengthen. They buy, but buy does not always mean strengthen." (http://&quot;Overall we have a very strong squad. If something exceptional turns up we will do it but having said that not everybody will strengthen. They buy, but buy does not always mean strengthen.&quot;)

I would have thought he might have learnt a lesson from the impact Ozil has had.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He says the same thing every window whether we sign someone or not. He is in full-on robot mode at this time of year.

[Power n Glory]

He says the same thing every window whether we sign someone or not. He is in full-on robot mode at this time of year.

Did we play that card this summer? He kept on saying that everyone was working on bringing in players.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah I think so. We are not close to bringing anyone in. :rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

Our last few signings have been opportunistic so I believe him when he talks about bringing someone of quality in if a deal is plausible. If we do anything it will happen very late in the window.

[Dein-machine]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9129348/transfer-news-arsenal-manager-arsene-wenger-says-january-signing-unlikely

:doh:

I hope he's bluffing!

Oh No - those words that send a shiver down my spine "we have Bentdner back" - please Wumger think before you speak. And then just to rub it in "We have Sonogo back" - we're in a title shootout with the likes of Aguero, Dzeko, Negrado but fear not boys we've got Bentdner & Sonogo - honestly I can only come from Wumger.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah I think so. We are not close to bringing anyone in. :rolleyes:

Followed by 'we're working hard to get the deals in'. He said last summer it wasn't just him working on deals...remember?

[AKBapologist]

We're signing no one.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I will be surprised if we do make a signing. Strangely enough, I'm ok with that. While it is clear we need a striker, unless we can get someone who fits into long term plans, there is little point. Some advocate getting a stopgap who can do a job, but realistically how likely is it that we get the quality we'd need and who is willing to fulfill a shortterm role?

[Özim]

I get the feeling he's not going to sign anyone, like he said we have a number of players coming back (don't we always), we were looking for a striker last summer however but maybe he's thinking we've done pretty well without and we can wait until the summer.

[selassie]

We really screwed up not signing an "elite" striker in the Summer, there are next to no options available now and unfortunately I feel not signing this "elite" striker could well be our undoing.

[Power n Glory]

We really screwed up not signing an "elite" striker in the Summer, there are next to no options available now and unfortunately I feel not signing this "elite" striker could well be our undoing.

We should have done our homework over the summer. It was always unlikely that we’d sign an elite striker this month but I feel we need better options up front even if they’re not elite. With Walcott out injured, we’re missing the sort of striker that will offer something different. Bendy is similar to Giroud in playing style and Pod isn’t an option upfront as a lone striker. His movement is poor. We’ll see what happens but I think we should be looking for a striker that’s quick and can finish.

[Master Splinter]

We're signing no one.

Good player tbf.

[GP]

We're signing no one.

Done well for Cardiff tbh

[Syn]

100% dive.

[Syn]

He says the same thing every window whether we sign someone or not. He is in full-on robot mode at this time of year.

Wenger is aspie as fuck. He pretty much days what he believes and he has belief in what he says as well you know.

[Grebbo]

Tbf who can we sign in this window that will significantly improve us? I'm not sure what some fans are expecting.

Man U are crying out for players and they're having to pay £40m for a Chelsea bench warmer. Ok, he's a great player but it's still a lot of money. It shows that with all of their scouts they're finding it hard to get clubs to sell their top players. I'm not sure what Chelsea are playing at by selling Mata but that's another story.

Bottom line is you either pay through the nose for a top player or you wont be able to sign them in January.

I still think we'll sign a striker on loan or someone cheap like Berbatov although if we were going to by Berbatov we'd of probably done it by now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea announce signing of Salah. Oh look, Chelsea come in and purchase a player looking likely to join one near them in the table (Liverpool in this case).

Hate them so much.

[Grebbo]

Just sign this guy and play him against the dross of the league. How many players could do this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z7VaZGEkVs

[Marc Overmars]

Chelsea announce signing of Salah. Oh look, Chelsea come in and purchase a player looking likely to join one near them in the table (Liverpool in this case).

Hate them so much.

Didn't even know he was linked with them. :blink:

Another midfielder they don't need.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Chelsea announce signing of Salah. Oh look, Chelsea come in and purchase a player looking likely to join one near them in the table (Liverpool in this case).

Hate them so much.

If RAWK is to be believed, it sounds like we came from the Arsenal school of negotiations.

"We want £10m for him"
"How about £50?
"£10m."
"£51?"

I don't know enough about him to panic or not. It's not like well see him for a while anyway.

[saintnickle]

Tbf who can we sign in this window that will significantly improve us? I'm not sure what some fans are expecting.

Man U are crying out for players and they're having to pay £40m for a Chelsea bench warmer. Ok, he's a great player but it's still a lot of money. It shows that with all of their scouts they're finding it hard to get clubs to sell their top players. I'm not sure what Chelsea are playing at by selling Mata but that's another story.

Bottom line is you either pay through the nose for a top player or you wont be able to sign them in January.

I still think we'll sign a striker on loan or someone cheap like Berbatov although if we were going to by Berbatov we'd of probably done it by now.

Even if top strikers were available in january he would make an excuse not to go for them.We arent buying anyone full stop we have already spent our budget for the season.Ozil was a one off.

[GP]

Why's that?

[Fist of Lehmann]

Chelsea announce signing of Salah. Oh look, Chelsea come in and purchase a player looking likely to join one near them in the table (Liverpool in this case).

Hate them so much.

Mirror and Sun had them linked to Griezmann as well.

[Master Splinter]

Liverpool gazumped as Mourinho's special mind games ingeniously land transfer window swoop.

Salah heads for Chelsea exit door as AS Vladivostok FC line up loan package.

[Munchies]

Liverpool gazumped as Mourinho's special mind games ingeniously land transfer window swoop.

Salah heads for Chelsea exit door as AS Vladivostok FC line up loan package.

Who the fuck are they ?!?!?

Mourinho is a right cunt isn't he ? :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea announce signing of Salah. Oh look, Chelsea come in and purchase a player looking likely to join one near them in the table (Liverpool in this case).

Hate them so much.

Not only that, it stops Salah beating them next time they play Basel. 94% of his goals seem to come against them.

That's the next step: stockpile players who have the temerity to score against you.

Theo :wave:. Will he be bought by Chelsea or Citeh though?

[milla]

Who the fuck are they ?!?!?

Mourinho is a right cunt isn't he ? :lol:

They are in the furthest east of Russia facing Japanese island. :coffee:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not only that, it stops Salah beating them next time they play Basel. 94% of his goals seem to come against them.

That's the next step: stockpile players who have the temerity to score against you.

Theo :wave:. Will he be bought by Chelsea or Citeh though?

And it hurts Federer too.

Chelsea. :threaten:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mirror and Sun had them linked to Griezmann as well.

Papers. :lol:

It's as though they don't know.

[Özim]

Who the fuck are they ?!?!?

Mourinho is a right cunt isn't he ? :lol:

He made that up FYI, there's no loan move setup.

[milla]

Not only that, it stops Salah beating them next time they play Basel. 94% of his goals seem to come against them.

That's the next step: stockpile players who have the temerity to score against you.

Theo :wave:. Will he be bought by Chelsea or Citeh though?

No problem for me. Now they well stock in midfield, they wont go for Draxler or Reus next summer. :coffee:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If RAWK is to be believed, it sounds like we came from the Arsenal school of negotiations.

"We want £10m for him"
"How about £50?
"£10m."
"£51?"

I don't know enough about him to panic or not. It's not like well see him for a while anyway.

I think you've probably chastened yourselves too much over the Carroll debacle so you're going to be haggle masters from now on too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Didn't even know he was linked with them. :blink:

Another midfielder they don't need.

They're addicted to buying. Abramovich is just 'Arry, really.

[milla]

They're addicted to buying. Abramovich is just 'Arry, really.

Except he is weheelin it with his own money. :coffee:

[Master Splinter]

No problem for me. Now they well stock in midfield, they wont go for Draxler or Reus next summer. :coffee:

Yeah, that will really stop them buying.

They've already ruined Marin and Schurrle's careers. What's two more in the noble cause of thwarting rival clubs?