Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Except he is weheelin it with his own money. :coffee:

Own money? :lol:

[Munchies]

Just read Wenger's comments about how he might not sign anyone on SkySports

Wouldn't mind just Berbatov really. We do need a striker though.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Just read Wenger's comments about how he might not sign anyone on SkySports

Wouldn't mind just Berbatov really. We do need a striker though.
He says that every window tbh.

Keeping his cards close to his chest.

[Power n Glory]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9129436/arsene-wenger-thinks-juan-matas-proposed-transfer-to-man-utd-from-chelsea-is-unfair

I wish he'd play this sort of thing close to his chest. I think he's right but Arsene will look a fool to say such things when he sold RVP to Man Utd.

[Marc Overmars]

As long as there is a transfer window half way through the season then situations like this can always come up.

I would personally get rid of this transfer window. Clubs should get their shit done in the summer and be made to live and die by that.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I think you've probably chastened yourselves too much over the Carroll debacle so you're going to be haggle masters from now on too.

Yeah. We don't mind paying if we really think they're worth it [Sakho and Allen for example] though we even haggled, and nearly lost out, on Suarez too.

We're definitely looking after the pennies, which is a nice thing after the Kenny/Comolli era and to some extent, Rafa. But at some point we have to say that the prospect of CL is a greater reward than a million here and there. Especially when our fall backs of loans have been, to a man, dire. I think we have to accept that we are going to ripped off at times; not every transfer is going to be a bargain.

I don't actually agree with the above about January though. All I can see happening there is teams panic buy and take even bigger gambles in the summer because they know that is all for the year, even more than they do now. I'd prefer both transfer windows done away with, but that isn't going to happen.

[footloose, the wanderer]

Who the fuck are they ?!?!?

Mourinho is a right cunt isn't he ? :lol:

Absolute 100 carat cunt

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Oh No - those words that send a shiver down my spine "we have Bentdner back" - please Wumger think before you speak. And then just to rub it in "We have Sonogo back" - we're in a title shootout with the likes of Aguero, Dzeko, Negrado but fear not boys we've got Bentdner & Sonogo - honestly I can only come from Wumger.
:d

I have mentally prepared for the fact we probably won't bring anyone in. Interestingly Suarez's new contract is reported to have a 70 million pound clause in it which I don't think is totally at odds with the idea that we could have signed him at 50 million last summer.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ber-QrJCMAAPEqS.png

Haven't been too impressed with Ozil recently, but he's doing pretty good so far overall in terms of his stats of assists/goals/chances.

Those would be higher if he had better opportunities in front of him really.

[Heisenberg]

When Lewandowski signed his contract or whatever at Bayern, there were stories about Mandzukic being on the market. Now, obviously that isn't going to happen this window because Lewandowski doesn't start there until the summer, so Mandzukic still has a spot. But what about when Lewandowski does arrive? I don't really know enough German football to gauge whether Lewandowski's arrival will make Mandzukic surplus to requirements and thus available. I'm assuming that Lewandowski won't have signed anything without assurances that they saw him as their first choice striker.

[Özim]

As long as there is a transfer window half way through the season then situations like this can always come up.

I would personally get rid of this transfer window. Clubs should get their shit done in the summer and be made to live and die by that.

I'd prefer the old system where you can buy whenever you want.

[Özim]

When Lewandowski signed his contract or whatever at Bayern, there were stories about Mandzukic being on the market. Now, obviously that isn't going to happen this window because Lewandowski doesn't start there until the summer, so Mandzukic still has a spot. But what about when Lewandowski does arrive? I don't really know enough German football to gauge whether Lewandowski's arrival will make Mandzukic surplus to requirements and thus available. I'm assuming that Lewandowski won't have signed anything without assurances that they saw him as their first choice striker.

Not too keen on Mandzukic, don't think he's what we need.

[Munchies]

'BREAKING: Arsenal has agreed a fee with Schalke for the transfer of Draxler. Personal terms are being discussed currently. [TuttoMercato]'

This is doing the rounds just now

[Özim]

I don't really get the criticism of Mourinho to be honest, he can do whatever the hell he likes Mata is his player and if he doesn't want him and is happy to sell him to Man U what's the problem.

His priority is Chelsea, he doesn't owe any other club sh*t. The team he has is clearly not the one he wants, so he's sold a player surplus to requirements to bring in players he does want, Mata wasn't playing so having him was a waste of a squad place.

[KSE Comedy Club]

'BREAKING: Arsenal has agreed a fee with Schalke for the transfer of Draxler. Personal terms are being discussed currently. [TuttoMercato]'

This is doing the rounds just now

Knew he was trying to get him this window.

It was obvious today when Gary cotterill questioned him.

"Is Julian draxler a player you still admire?"

Arsene: "Nooo"

"Shall I quit while I'm loosing?"

Arsene: (laughs) "maybe"

[GP]

:lol: Master WUM. No one can match him.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/arsenal-transfer-rumors-and-news/2014/1/23/5338916/arsenal-transfer-julian-draxler-maybe-hopefully

Deal will be done tomorrow morning. Fee is Euro42mill, 5 year contract £120K pw. Injury is not as serious as thought, could be fit for FA Cup tie vs Coventry.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I'd prefer the old system where you can buy whenever you want.

That would be the gayest idea since two people of the same sex decided they should have sex together :sulk:

(*disclaimer: although, two women....)

[KSE Comedy Club]

http://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/arsenal-transfer-rumors-and-news/2014/1/23/5338916/arsenal-transfer-julian-draxler-maybe-hopefully

Deal will be done tomorrow morning. Fee is Euro42mill, 5 year contract £120K pw. Injury is not as serious as thought, could be fit for FA Cup tie vs Coventry.

ok then, where did you get this info from?

[Unai Tea]

That would be the gayest idea since two people of the same sex decided they should have sex together :sulk:

(*disclaimer: although, two women....)

...two hot women...otherwise, little bit non

[KSE Comedy Club]

...two hot women...otherwise, little bit non

Oh of course ;)

[Özim]

That would be the gayest idea since two people of the same sex decided they should have sex together :sulk:

(*disclaimer: although, two women....)

It was like that for years and noone had a problem with it, don't know why they changed it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That would be the gayest idea since two people of the same sex decided they should have sex together :sulk:

(*disclaimer: although, two women....)

100% muff dive.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wjjvZeOazY

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

ok then, where did you get this info from?

Insider sources.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Insider sources.

Real or the kind you put on your chips?

[Niall_Quinn]

Real or the kind you put on your chips?

My reputation is riding on this, so you be the judge.

[Niall_Quinn]

"It looks very unlikely," Wenger said regarding the prospect of bringing any new faces in this month. "It is 23 January today and at the moment I must say we are not close to doing anything. I feel a bit guilty always going to a press conference during the transfer market and having nobody to announce (as a signing) but I don't want to lie."

He lies!

[Niall_Quinn]

On verge of double strike in transfer window.


First up and talkSPORT are carrying quotes from an agent who claims he is close to finalising a deal with Arsenal for the signings of Nigerian youngsters Musa Yahaya and Chidera Ezeh. The pair put in some impressive displays as Nigeria won the Under-17 World Cup in November 2013 and it seems they caught the eye of Gunners boss Arsene Wenger. Yahaya is a 16-year-old left winger who was one of the stars of the tournament, scoring four goals in four games, while Ezeh is a young striker who bagged one goal and is highly-rated in his homeland.

This is more like it!

[Niall_Quinn]

According to those in the know:


I don't think Italian paper Tuttomercato has ever got a story right

This is the one source on the planet quoting the EUR45mill deal with all other sources repeating. Mind you, they were first to break the news we'd signed Higuain. Which we almost did, until we didn't.

[KSE Comedy Club]

My reputation is riding on this, so you be the judge.
Probably not the most encouraging answer tbf :shrug:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The Arse sign Draxler for 45 million Euro's in January? Well I'll be damned!.......if true....

It would make quite a mockery of our pathological reciting of the 'but who would be available' line.......Quite a lot for that money, one would think.

[Dein-machine]

:lol: Master WUM. No one can match him.

Surely to be the master you would have to have bought some of the players he has "wummed" about. Bearing in mind he misses out on 99% of the players he goes for I'm not sure if his wumming is that succesful.

[GP]

:doh:

[Özim]

http://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/arsenal-transfer-rumors-and-news/2014/1/23/5338916/arsenal-transfer-julian-draxler-maybe-hopefully

Deal will be done tomorrow morning. Fee is Euro42mill, 5 year contract £120K pw. Injury is not as serious as thought, could be fit for FA Cup tie vs Coventry.

We're signing him in the next 11 minutes :excited:

[Marc Overmars]

Mourinho admits selling Mata and De Bruyne puts them in a better position for FFP regulations.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mourinho admits selling Mata and De Bruyne puts them in a better position for FFP regulations.

Yeah, in one swoop they've gone from being a total financial farce to an almost total financial farce.

[Özim]

Yeah, in one swoop they've gone from being a total financial farce to an almost total financial farce.

Strangely they actually have a higher revenue than us (we seem to have dropped down the list a bit)

1. Real Madrid: 518.9m euros
2. Barcelona: 482.6m euros
3. Bayern Munich: 431.2m euros
4. Man Utd: 423.8m euros
5. Paris Saint Germain; 398.8m euros
6. Manchester City: 316.2m euros
7. Chelsea: 303.4m euros
8. Arsenal: 284.3m euros
9. Juventus: 272.4m euros
10. AC Milan: 263.5m euros

[Niall_Quinn]

Strangely they actually have a higher revenue than us (we seem to have dropped down the list a bit)

1. Real Madrid: 518.9m euros
2. Barcelona: 482.6m euros
3. Bayern Munich: 431.2m euros
4. Man Utd: 423.8m euros
5. Paris Saint Germain; 398.8m euros
6. Manchester City: 316.2m euros
7. Chelsea: 303.4m euros
8. Arsenal: 284.3m euros
9. Juventus: 272.4m euros
10. AC Milan: 263.5m euros

Yeah, they landed a few rape/ incest sponsorship deals.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Strangely they actually have a higher revenue than us (we seem to have dropped down the list a bit)

1. Real Madrid: 518.9m euros
2. Barcelona: 482.6m euros
3. Bayern Munich: 431.2m euros
4. Man Utd: 423.8m euros
5. Paris Saint Germain; 398.8m euros
6. Manchester City: 316.2m euros
7. Chelsea: 303.4m euros
8. Arsenal: 284.3m euros
9. Juventus: 272.4m euros
10. AC Milan: 263.5m euros

This doesn't take into account the new improved sponsorship deal we've just signed with Emirates or the basically all but confirmed new deal with Puma. We've also just signed a deal with Huawei which is probably worth a few bob and I imagine they'll be a few more similar deals to follow now that our stock is very high.

With signifacntly higher matchday receipts than Chelsea and City, we should overtake them soon now that we're finally plugging up the commerical revenue gap. We might even overtake Utd in a few years if they completely fall by the wayside and all the sponsers abandon them in droves though that's very unlikely.

Basically the future is bright. It's red and white.

[Özim]

This doesn't take into account the new improved sponsorship deal we've just signed with Emirates or the basically all but confirmed new deal with Puma. We've also just signed a deal with Huawei which is probably worth a few bob and I imagine they'll be a few more similar deals to follow now that our stock is very high.

With signifacntly higher matchday receipts than Chelsea and City, we should overtake them soon now that we're finally plugging up the commerical revenue gap. We might even overtake Utd in a few years if they completely fall by the wayside and all the sponsers abandon them in droves though that's very unlikely.

Basically the future is bright. It's red and white.

Sounds good, was a bit surprised with the figures.

[I am invisible]

This doesn't take into account the new improved sponsorship deal we've just signed with Emirates or the basically all but confirmed new deal with Puma. We've also just signed a deal with Huawei which is probably worth a few bob and I imagine they'll be a few more similar deals to follow now that our stock is very high.

With signifacntly higher matchday receipts than Chelsea and City, we should overtake them soon now that we're finally plugging up the commerical revenue gap. We might even overtake Utd in a few years if they completely fall by the wayside and all the sponsers abandon them in droves though that's very unlikely.

Basically the future is bright. It's red and white.
Also, when we spend £40m+ on a player, it comes out of the club's account and not Roman's pocket...

[footloose, the wanderer]

So many feckin chavs, so few opportunities to buy full chat AK-47s


Strangely they actually have a higher revenue than us (we seem to have dropped down the list a bit)

1. Real Madrid: 518.9m euros
2. Barcelona: 482.6m euros
3. Bayern Munich: 431.2m euros
4. Man Utd: 423.8m euros
5. Paris Saint Germain; 398.8m euros
6. Manchester City: 316.2m euros
7. Chelsea: 303.4m euros
8. Arsenal: 284.3m euros
9. Juventus: 272.4m euros
10. AC Milan: 263.5m euros

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Also, when we spend £40m+ on a player, it comes out of the club's account and not Roman's pocket...

Nor can we use the "creative accounting" techniques that Man City, PSG and to a lesser extent Chelsea employ, to artifically boost our revenue figures.

I mean selling the naming rights for obscene figures or charging a ridicolous amount for one stadium box which just convienently happens to be the one which the owner buys. :rolleyes:

It's really a testament to the overall health of the club that we've consistently featured so high despite having some of the lousiest commerical deals around for a big club. I think Liverpool and the Scum have had higher commercial deals despite being shit and outside of the CL for so long.

Speaking of commerical activites anyone know when our summer tour will get announced? We did the Far East last season so I'm hoping for somewhere new this time. There was a planned trip to Nigeria a couple of seasons ago which got cancelled because of security concerns. Middle East perhaps? We're quite big there.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Have we signed him yet....

[Dein-machine]

Also, when we spend £40m+ on a player, it comes out of the club's account and not Roman's pocket...

Yes, but should then appear as a £40 mill asset on the balance sheet improving value of the club.

[footloose, the wanderer]

Speaking of commerical activites anyone know when our summer tour will get announced? We've did the Far East last season so I'm hoping for somewhere new this time. There was a planned trip to Nigeria a couple of seasons ago which got cancelled because of security concerns. Middle East perhaps? We're quite big there.

I used to love the low key affairs of the Austrian summer excursions -

At 1 game in 2001, I got to -

Greeted AW getting off team bus - wished him luck with contract negotiations

Wished Sol Campbell good luck at success at club

Chatted with Bob Wilson on sidelines over a game we won at Anfield

Sat next and chatted with Sven Goran Eriksen in stands

Pretty full day

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I used to love the low key affairs of the Austrian summer excursions -

At 1 game in 2001, I got to -

Greeted AW getting off team bus - wished him luck with contract negotiations

Wished Sol Campbell good luck at success at club

Chatted with Bob Wilson on sidelines over a game we won at Anfield

Sat next and chatted with Sven Goran Eriksen in stands

Pretty full day

Fuck that man, we're so big around the world we might as well exploit that for all it's worth. It's the only way we can even stand a chance of being able to compete with the oil giants. It's great that Wenger finally agreed to them alongside the car seat sponsorship.


I'd much rather see a horde of passionate Malaysian or Indian fans screaming and fainting just because they got to see Carl Jenkinson live and hilarious videos like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xK_5CpPLhw

[Özim]

Quote from Mourinho on the BBC:


Meanwhile, the Blues boss criticised his Arsenal counterpart Arsene Wenger for saying that Mata's proposed move to United raises questions about the fairness of the January transfer window.

Mourinho said: "Wenger complaining is normal, he always does. But when a player plays for a club on 20 August and then on 5 September plays for a different club this is normal. This is the market.

"If Wenger sold Mesut Ozil to Manchester United I would be happy because they are losing a very important player, like we are with Juan, but this is his nature."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25882972

[JonasTC]

They are losing are very important player!? Then why the fuck do you just not sell him? :D Seriously i hate that guy. He came back to the premier league saying he was going to be more respectful, etc. And here he is talking shit about a Wenger, who actually got a good point on the Mata sale.

Btw he should check his facts before talking shit about Wenger thinking its normal to buy a player late in the transfer window, Wenger has said many times that he think the transfer window should close before the league starts.

[GP]

They are losing are very important player!? Then why the fuck do you just not sell him? :D Seriously i hate that guy. He came back to the premier league saying he was going to be more respectful, etc. And here he is talking shit about a Wenger, who actually got a good point on the Mata sale.

Btw he should check his facts before talking shit about Wenger thinking its normal to buy a player late in the transfer window, Wenger has said many times that he think the transfer window should close before the league starts.

Yep, he's a 5-star dickhead. Hateful wanker.

[Power n Glory]

They are losing are very important player!? Then why the fuck do you just not sell him? :D Seriously i hate that guy. He came back to the premier league saying he was going to be more respectful, etc. And here he is talking shit about a Wenger, who actually got a good point on the Mata sale.

Btw he should check his facts before talking shit about Wenger thinking its normal to buy a player late in the transfer window, Wenger has said many times that he think the transfer window should close before the league starts.

Mourinho is a shit sometimes but he took it easy on Wenger. If I were him or one of the journalists, I’d have taken Wenger to school on the fact that he’s sold his best players to the last three Prem League title winners. He could have laughed it off and said this is coming from the Man that sold RVP to Man Utd, their captain and last season’s top goal scorer. Wenger may have a point and it may be a cynical and strategic move on Chelsea’s part, but they have a valid excuse. They need to comply with the FFP rules, raise revenue and Mata is a player Mourinho doesn’t use. I’m suspicious of Jose but Wenger is the wrong guy to question it.

[Syn]

Wenger made a point of saying Chelsea aren't doing anything wrong because they don't make the rules. He also said it wasn't tactical on their part. I.e. He wasn't blaming Chelsea at all. He has always been opposed to the idea of the January transfer window and this is one of the reasons why. At no point is he saying clubs shouldn't use the window. Like Pulis, Pardew etc. Mourinho just wants a bit more attention. Some people are like that.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenget and Mourinho just don't like each other, never have done and never will.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

They are losing are very important player!? Then why the fuck do you just not sell him? :D Seriously i hate that guy. He came back to the premier league saying he was going to be more respectful, etc. And here he is talking shit about a Wenger, who actually got a good point on the Mata sale.

Btw he should check his facts before talking shit about Wenger thinking its normal to buy a player late in the transfer window, Wenger has said many times that he think the transfer window should close before the league starts.

Wenger made this point weeks ago and should have probably left it at that. His recent point about Mata is slightly absurd.

We could sign Draxler (go with me here) and teams who have to play us a second time could complain that teams who have already played us twice didn't have to face Draxler........but that would be rather silly.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

In fairness to Wenger it was mainly the part where he said 'why didn't they sell him last week' that made him sound silly. Why on earth would Chelsea sell him in time for him to face Chelsea. Nobody in Chelsea's position would do that, not least of all ourselves.

The special one will always bite though.....he's built like that.

[Özim]

The rules are there, everyone can do whatever they like as long as they follow the rules, nothing to talk about to be honest, Wenger always has something to say though.

If Chelsea want to sell half their squad and replace it in January that's entirely up to them, I hope we sign someone this January because we need to.

[fakeyank]

The whole Mata thing has been a fiasco, when we clearly fucked ourselves by bidding 40 million and 1 quid. We 'thought' we found a loop hole in the rule and played it. Chelsea did the same. STFU and concentrate on your team should be our mantra tbh.. WUMger got owned here!

[GP]

Not really.

Wenger's complaint wasn't directed at Mourinho, Chelsea or Mata. He's been consistent with regards his criticism of the transfer window. It's Mourinho who's been disrespectful by making personal attacks, as usual.

Hateful, spiteful, disgrace of a man. We're lucky we have a man in charge who is full of integrity.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

And we probably could have had the bitey racist for 50 million....

[Power n Glory]

In fairness to Wenger it was mainly the part where he said 'why didn't they sell him last week' that made him sound silly. Why on earth would Chelsea sell him in time for him to face Chelsea. Nobody in Chelsea's position would do that, not least of all ourselves.

The special one will always bite though.....he's built like that.

I don't see why Wenger had to bite and mention 'fairness'. It's not as if the window isn't open for everybody. He's not an idiot and knows when to be coy, when to duck a question or to flip it. He should have avoided that one without having to make another statement about the transfer window.

[Niall_Quinn]

No Draxler then? I can't believe that Italian web site was wrong.

[JonasTC]

Wenger made this point weeks ago and should have probably left it at that. His recent point about Mata is slightly absurd.

We could sign Draxler (go with me here) and teams who have to play us a second time could complain that teams who have already played us twice didn't have to face Draxler........but that would be rather silly.

Wenger made this point years ago, not "weeks ago" as you mention :) The part of my quote you highlighted has nothing to do with either the January transfer window or his comments on Mata, so im a bit confussed why you highlighted it and then write what you did? Am i missing something here? :s

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS guys he was asked a question at his press conference and he answered it truthfully as he always does. He didn't say that the move was illegal, or shouldn't go ahead or that Chelsea were wrong ......... just that it's not fair on us, which is completely true. We're at a disadvantage as we're going to face a much stronger Man Utd team than Chelsea did, which relates to Wenger's general dislike of the January window.

Mourinho as usual couldn't resist taking a pop shot at Wenger and us because he's a petty little man who for some reason has an odd vendetta against us. Had Ferguson, Moyes or someone else at United, made those comments he'd be queueing up to agree with it.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Wenger made this point years ago, not "weeks ago" as you mention :) The part of my quote you highlighted has nothing to do with either the January transfer window or his comments on Mata, so im a bit confussed why you highlighted it and then write what you did? Am i missing something here? :s

Right.

Actually Wenger MOST recently made the point about (what is effectively) the abolishment of the January window recently. If he made the point years ago too, that would not surprise me.

The fact that the comment that I highlighted in your quote was nothing to do with the Mata deal is very point I was making......deary me. I was alluding to the fact that Wenger should have not been drawn into commenting on the Mata deal at all but that his general feeling that the window should be 'completely open or completely closed' is quite valid.

Hope that clears up your confusion.

[Power n Glory]

FFS guys he was asked a question at his press conference and he answered it truthfully as he always does. He didn't say that the move was illegal, or shouldn't go ahead or that Chelsea were wrong ......... just that it's not fair on us, which is completely true. We're at a disadvantage as we're going to face a much stronger Man Utd team than Chelsea did, which relates to Wenger's general dislike of the January window.

Mourinho as usual couldn't resist taking a pop shot at Wenger and us because he's a petty little man who for some reason has an odd vendetta against us. Had Ferguson, Moyes or someone else at United, made those comments he'd be queueing up to agree with it.

I see it as Wenger taking a pop at Chelsea and Jose. It was sly. He's media savy enough to know that's the sort of question you side step.

Also, why is he worried about Man Utd gaining an extra player from Chelsea. If Mourinho is trying to ruffle feathers with that move it shoes he's gotten to Wenger. He should have just played that one cool. No need to invite shots back from Jose because Wenger will lose that sort of battle.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Like PGtips says it's open for everyone...... If you're that worried about it...go and buy Mata yourself!

[JonasTC]

Right.

Actually Wenger MOST recently made the point about (what is effectively) the abolishment of the January window recently. If he made the point years ago too, that would not surprise me.

The fact that the comment that I highlighted in your quote was nothing to do with the Mata deal is very point I was making......deary me. I was alluding to the fact that Wenger should have not been drawn into commenting on the Mata deal at all but that his general feeling that the window should be 'completely open or completely closed' is quite valid.

Hope that clears up your confusion.

I understood your comment fine, but i think you misunderstood my comment. The part you highlighted was partly about when Wenger last summer said that he thinks the transfer window should close before the league starts and partly about Mourinho saying that Wenger was okay with a late transfer window because he got Özil.

[GP]

FFS guys he was asked a question at his press conference and he answered it truthfully as he always does. He didn't say that the move was illegal, or shouldn't go ahead or that Chelsea were wrong ......... just that it's not fair on us, which is completely true. We're at a disadvantage as we're going to face a much stronger Man Utd team than Chelsea did, which relates to Wenger's general dislike of the January window.

Mourinho as usual couldn't resist taking a pop shot at Wenger and us because he's a petty little man who for some reason has an odd vendetta against us. Had Ferguson, Moyes or someone else at United, made those comments he'd be queueing up to agree with it.

Quite right. Mourinho made it personal, not Wenger.

[BOBN]

Wengers scared of Mata?

Down in my estimation.

[Ollie the Optimist]

so mourinho has sold two players this window who can play in the champions league for chelsea, and replaced with two players who are cup tied.


genius stuff that.

[Ollie the Optimist]

i love how mourinho has a pop at wenger for complaining before them himself complaining about our fixtures being unfair to chelsea as we get so much rest.

ignoring weeks like liverpool, dortmund and united away in about 6 days etc.


he's such a fucking cunt

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wenger said nothing wrong and he made no personal attacks whatsoever. The only guy looking like a dickhead here is the one who went unnecessarily personal and then went on to complain about a fixture list that 'unfairly' involves 20 teams having to play each other twice, thus disadvantaging Chelsea at all times.
A situation seemingly compounded by BT Sport wanting to show us this evening.
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[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He is a hideous and detestable man.

[Master Splinter]

As are the 'journos' who set up this inevitable, predictable, tiresome, non-drama probably because results on the field haven't allowed them to mock arrogant Frenchy Wenger for a few months and they were overdue on the backslapping Mourinho guffaw-fest that hadn't occurred for precisely two hours.

The fact that it's the same "whingeing Wenger herpderp" or "Wenger didn't see it hahalol" response to anything Wenger has said - or more often not actually said - should tell how much of an actual thing this was.

But yes, as ever, Legendary Internet Warrior Jose 5-0 Moany Wenger.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Only a complete fucktard would try to support Maureen or think he somehow for one over Wenger here.

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[JonasTC]

Legendary Internet Warrior Jose :bow:

[GP]

Jose :lol:

Awful Letters

[Power n Glory]

As are the 'journos' who set up this inevitable, predictable, tiresome, non-drama probably because results on the field haven't allowed them to mock arrogant Frenchy Wenger for a few months and they were overdue on the backslapping Mourinho guffaw-fest that hadn't occurred for precisely two hours.

The fact that it's the same "whingeing Wenger herpderp" or "Wenger didn't see it hahalol" response to anything Wenger has said - or more often not actually said - should tell how much of an actual thing this was.

But yes, as ever, Legendary Internet Warrior Jose 5-0 Moany Wenger.

Seeing how Wenger is able to use wit, charm, play his cards to chest when talking of our own transfer dealings and deflect criticism away from his players when dealing with the media, how could he walk blindly into this basic trap? How many times have people talked about this mythical Wenger 'smoke screen' when talking of our transfer targets but here the assumption is he's been manipulated by the journalist to twist a narrative?

We all know Jose is a troublemaker. Wenger knows that and Jose can wind him up so much that he'll take serious offense and threaten legal action. Let's not forget the 'voyeur' saga. Wenger is no good at the mind games imo and Jose will get the best of him so it's best to ignore him and his squad even when asked by the journalists. He's smart enough to swerve those traps.

Also, we really shouldn't be worried about Chelsea, Man Utd or whoever has the advantage. It sounds like we're scared, worried and making excuses. I'm hoping we finally get the best of Jose's team this season and then Wenger can really gloat, but until then....

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I understood your comment fine, but i think you misunderstood my comment. The part you highlighted was partly about when Wenger last summer said that he thinks the transfer window should close before the league starts and partly about Mourinho saying that Wenger was okay with a late transfer window because he got Özil.

Nope. I haven't misunderstood your comment.

[GP]

Only a complete fucktard would try to support Maureen or think he somehow for one over Wenger here.

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Exactly right.

[GP]

Jan Aage Fjortoft ‏@JanAageFjortoft 1m
Re: Draxler

I understand that Schalke and Arsenal have agreed a fee.
If he will leave now I don't know. But this is latest info
#afc

[Munchies]

Jan Aage Fjortoft ‏@JanAageFjortoft 1m
Re: Draxler

I understand that Schalke and Arsenal have agreed a fee.
If he will leave now I don't know. But this is latest info
#afc

Wow !!!

Reliable source that too

Haven't seen too much of him, but wow !

[Özim]

Wenger has a habit of complaining about what other teams do, I've not heard other teams complaining when he's signed someone in January or late on in the transfer window and strengthened his team thus making it more difficult for challengers of the league at the time to win games.

The trick is to worry about your own team not what other teams are doing.

[Niall_Quinn]

The trick is to worry about your own team not what other teams are doing.

Maureen's the one who's worried, hence his silly outburst.

[GP]

Maureen's the one who's worried, hence his silly outburst.

Seems that way.

[Özim]

Maureen's the one who's worried, hence his silly outburst.

Worried? I don't think so, it wasn't him who complained about what was going on. He just sold a player and signed one, standard stuff in football.

If Wenger hadn't said anything in the 1st place there wouldn't even be a story.

[Niall_Quinn]

Worried? I don't think so, it wasn't him who complained about what was going on. He just sold a player and signed one, standard stuff in football.

If Wenger hadn't said anything in the 1st place there wouldn't even be a story.

The story has been created out of something Wenger didn't say. By journos. Mourinho just tipped fuel on it. Journos have to hype shit like this because whores need to sell. But nobody else has to buy into it.
----

Nik :doh:

[Munchies]

United have finally confirmed Mata now on their site.

£37m

Medical tomorrow

[Xhaka Can’t]

Its so fucking unfair how Wenger manipulates the fixture computer and the TV schedules.



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[Özim]

The story has been created out of something Wenger didn't say. By journos. Mourinho just tipped fuel on it. Journos have to hype shit like this because whores need to sell. But nobody else has to buy into it.
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Nik :doh:

There's quotes where he specifically mentions the deal for Mata. Are you saying they made up the quotes?

[Özim]

United have finally confirmed Mata now on their site.

£37m

Medical tomorrow

According to the BBC the deal won't happen until next week as Salah needs to have a medical first and his UK entry Visa has expired so he has to have his medical in Switzerland.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Exactly right.

Sadly, there are some about.

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[Xhaka Can’t]

According to the BBC the deal won't happen until next week as Salah needs to have a medical first and his UK entry Visa has expired so he has to have his medical in Switzerland.

At Dignitas. :good:

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[GP]

At Dignitas. :good:

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Hopefully he can take Mourinho for a 2for1

[Power n Glory]

Sadly, there are some about.

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Do you have to encourage such bullshit and throw insults?

[Xhaka Can’t]

I've insulted no one. You need to relax.

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[I am invisible]

What's the deal! I've been out decorating all day, and I expected to see a whole pile of Julian Draxlers when I got back?!

[Ollie the Optimist]

Worried? I don't think so, it wasn't him who complained about what was going on. He just sold a player and signed one, standard stuff in football.

If Wenger hadn't said anything in the 1st place there wouldn't even be a story.

he made a cheap dig at wenger before then complaining about arsenal and our fixtures.

if you took mourinho's cock out of your mouth you might actually see him for what he is. a cunt

[Niall_Quinn]

There's quotes where he specifically mentions the deal for Mata. Are you saying they made up the quotes?

No, I'm saying they took the quotes and spun them into a whole heap of stinking press manure. Which obviously Maureen couldn't resist landing on.

[Power n Glory]

I've insulted no one. You need to relax.

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Take your own advice. No need for the not so subtle shots.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Nothing remotely official yet mate. We might be cracking a few open or wanting to burn the site down within a week....

[Ollie the Optimist]

Pellegrini also said the same thing as Arsene today. wonder if certain people will have a go at him too?

doubt it :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

No, I'm saying they took the quotes and spun them into a whole heap of stinking press manure. Which obviously Maureen couldn't resist landing on.

You can check his press coverage. Nothing was spun. Wenger could have avoided going down that lane.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Take your own advice. No need for the not so subtle shots.

Let me be clear. Only a complete fucktard would support Mourinho and his cheap personal digs at Wenger. If that insults someone on an Arsenal forum, they should not be on an Arsenal forum.

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[Ollie the Optimist]

Let me be clear. Only a complete fucktard would support Mourinho and his cheap personal digs at Wenger. If that insults someone on an Arsenal forum, they should not be on an Arsenal forum.

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:gp:

[I am invisible]

I must have missed all this nonsense with Wenger and Mouron this week? It's amazing how much you don't care when you're not following the soap opera in the press or on TV...

[Özim]

he made a cheap dig at wenger before then complaining about arsenal and our fixtures.

if you took mourinho's cock out of your mouth you might actually see him for what he is. a cunt

No he didn't, Wenger made the original comment and thus made this a story, if he hadn't said anything there wouldn't be a story.

[Ollie the Optimist]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25863298


what exactly has Arsene said wrong here? he doenst have a dig at chelsea, he says they can do what they want, its in the rules but that the rules (key word there, rules.) could be adapted. he isn't having a go at chelsea, he isn't having a go at mourinho, he is having a go at the rules. its fuck all to do with chelsea/mourinho yet mourinho makes it about him, and certain people support him in attacking the manager of the club they claim to support. its pathetic

[Özim]

Pellegrini also said the same thing as Arsene today. wonder if certain people will have a go at him too?

doubt it :coffee:

Post the link instead of making random comments.

[milla]

Can't believe our lot on GW are backing Mourinho on this :doh:

[JonasTC]

Let me be clear. Only a complete fucktard would support Mourinho and his cheap personal digs at Wenger. If that insults someone on an Arsenal forum, they should not be on an Arsenal forum.

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:bow:

[GP]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25863298


what exactly has Arsene said wrong here? he doenst have a dig at chelsea, he says they can do what they want, its in the rules but that the rules (key word there, rules.) could be adapted. he isn't having a go at chelsea, he isn't having a go at mourinho, he is having a go at the rules. its fuck all to do with chelsea/mourinho yet mourinho makes it about him, and certain people support him in attacking the manager of the club they claim to support. its pathetic

It's beyond pathetic. It's pure WUMing.

[GP]

Can't believe our lot on GW are backing Mourinho on this :doh:

Fucking bizarre, innit?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Can't believe our lot on GW are backing Mourinho on this :doh:

Whatever you do, you mustn't hurt their feelings.

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[Ollie the Optimist]

Post the link instead of making random comments.

he said that you shouldn't be able to sign players from the same league in january. search it yourself for the article, they are out there. i can't be arsed

[Özim]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25863298


what exactly has Arsene said wrong here? he doenst have a dig at chelsea, he says they can do what they want, its in the rules but that the rules (key word there, rules.) could be adapted. he isn't having a go at chelsea, he isn't having a go at mourinho, he is having a go at the rules. its fuck all to do with chelsea/mourinho yet mourinho makes it about him, and certain people support him in attacking the manager of the club they claim to support. its pathetic

He goes on about Chelsea saying they could have sold him last week, Chelsea has already paid them twice etc etc. Sounds like a dig to me.

[Özim]

he said that you shouldn't be able to sign players from the same league in january. search it yourself for the article, they are out there. i can't be arsed

You posted it you find it. One thing he doesn't do is mention Chelsea however or any other club specifically.

[Özim]

Can't believe our lot on GW are backing Mourinho on this :doh:

Noone is backing Mourinho, fact is Wenger made this story with his comments. He didn't really need to answer the question or answer it like he did by talking specifically about one club.

[Ollie the Optimist]

You posted it you find it. One thing he doesn't do is mention Chelsea however or any other club specifically.


“I think Juan Mata is a very good player. It is a shame he didn’t play often this year at Chelsea. I think United buy a very good player.

"Personally I don’t agree that the player can go from one team to another team in the same league at this part of the year but rules are rules and he can change clubs.

kind of sounds to me as if he mentions chelsea/mata there.

but who would have guessed, he's the manager of city right now, a team you continually praise. supporting them and mourinho and having a go at wenger.

do you get any joy in being an Arsenal fan at all? in fact, why do you fucking bother? all you do is moan, take pot shots at our club, praise to high heavens city and chelsea.

[Niall_Quinn]

You can check his press coverage. Nothing was spun. Wenger could have avoided going down that lane.


"I am surprised by the move because Juan Mata is a great player and they sell a great player to a direct opponent. But it opens a little bit the opportunity of this transfer market because Chelsea have already played twice against Manchester United so they don’t play again any more. They could have sold him last week. Some teams have already played twice against one opponent and some not. I think if you want to respect the fairness for everybody that should not happen."

"I can understand completely what Chelsea is doing. They do not make the rules but maybe the rules should be adapted for more fairness. They have done nothing wrong, they just play with the rules. Maybe the transfer window should stop when everybody has played once. "I think it’s a financial reason, too... That is the first time I have come to that conclusion with Chelsea. It means somewhere that Chelsea has changed philosophy and they want to get in line with Financial Fair Play. That is the main reason, that is a good thing."

Everything said there is 100% reasonable and 100% correct. He was asked about a football story and he replied.

The press then spin it, in the case of the Daily Saddam Hussein... "Wenger accuses Chelsea of selling secret weapon Mata to dent rivals' title chances"

He accused nobody.

Then Maureen had his tantrum and that's the story so far.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Noone is backing Mourinho, fact is Wenger made this story with his comments. He didn't really need to answer the question or answer it like he did by talking specifically about one club.

He was asked specfically about the Mata situation and his thoughts on it!!!

I really don't understand the big deal about it anyway. It's not like Wenger will give a fig what that shithouse at the bridge says anyway.

[GP]

That's all this 'story' is. It's Mourinho throwing a hissy fit for no reason at all. Again.

[Niall_Quinn]

Post the link instead of making random comments.

Your link, from the Daily Pol Pot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2545279/Manuel-Pellegrini-criticises-Chelsea-sale-Juan-Mata-Manchester-United.html

[Özim]

kind of sounds to me as if he mentions chelsea/mata there.

but who would have guessed, he's the manager of city right now, a team you continually praise. supporting them and mourinho and having a go at wenger.

do you get any joy in being an Arsenal fan at all? in fact, why do you fucking bother? all you do is moan, take pot shots at our club, praise to high heavens city and chelsea.

Again no link :yawn:

But if this is true it's much more diplomatic than plainly saying it's unfair, this team could have sold him last week, they've already played them twice etc.

What's it to you? You're so biased that all you can do is throw insults at people when they don't agree, some people are very bitter in this place.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Noone is backing Mourinho, fact is Wenger made this story with his comments. He didn't really need to answer the question or answer it like he did by talking specifically about one club.

apart from you, by continually excusing his behaviour

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Arsenal fans chanting, "Fuck off Mourinho" on BT sport. :haha::haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Again no link :yawn:

But if this is true it's much more diplomatic than plainly saying it's unfair, this team could have sold him last week, they've already played them twice etc.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manuel-pellegrini-manchester-united-should-6560382

so he says the same thing as Arsene does yet you allow pellegrini off the hook and hammer Arsene.

surprise surprise

[GP]

Your link, from the Daily Pol Pot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2545279/Manuel-Pellegrini-criticises-Chelsea-sale-Juan-Mata-Manchester-United.html


Arsene Wenger had a correct reason, when he pointed out Chelsea have already played United home and away

Done.

[Özim]

Your link, from the Daily Pol Pot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2545279/Manuel-Pellegrini-criticises-Chelsea-sale-Juan-Mata-Manchester-United.html

Read what he says, it's much more diplomatic and sounds less like sour grapes.

[Niall_Quinn]

He goes on about Chelsea saying they could have sold him last week, Chelsea has already paid them twice etc etc. Sounds like a dig to me.

Dear me, you're a bit touchy on Maureen's behalf aren't you?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I must have missed all this nonsense with Wenger and Mouron this week? It's amazing how much you don't care when you're not following the soap opera in the press or on TV...

:d Nothing we haven't heard from Wenger or the special eejiot one mate.

Really hope we have the last laugh over the lot of them all by the end of the season.

[Niall_Quinn]

Noone is backing Mourinho, fact is Wenger made this story with his comments. He didn't really need to answer the question or answer it like he did by talking specifically about one club.

Well Pellegrini has made a story as well then. Let's hear your criticism. Should be twice as loud as they are ganging up on poor Jose.

[Özim]

Here's the full quotes, because some muppets like to cherry pick quotes to suit their bias.



United are getting a very good player, but personally I do not agree that a transfer like this can happen in the middle of the season,’ he said. ‘I do not think a player should be allowed to go from one club to another in the same league in January.

It is not correct at this stage of the season. Maybe Arsene Wenger had a correct reason, when he pointed out Chelsea have already played United home and away, but my argument is a more general one.

'I just feel that if a player has made more than five or six appearances for his club, then he cannot join another one in the same league at the midway point.

‘I just think if a player plays for a club for more than half of the season, a club with money can take the best players from the other teams.

'The rules are the rules, so you play by them, but I just think they should change. I am not saying scrap the January window, just change it.

‘I don’t particularly think Chelsea will gain an advantage from this. Maybe Manchester United have an advantage because Chelsea wanted to sell him.

'Maybe United have an advantage in this case. I am talking about general reasons and not the specific reason that they have played already against them. I think in this transfer window, players that play more than five or six games for the same club cannot change to another.

‘I do think Mata is a very good player. It is a shame he didn’t play often this year at Chelsea. That was strange, but I think United buy a very good player.’

[Özim]

Dear me, you're a bit touchy on Maureen's behalf aren't you?

Not really, personally I've got no beef with him, he's entertaining, some of you guys though are really bitter...you'd think he'd killed a member of your family or something.

[Ollie the Optimist]

so its gone from Pellegrini never mentioned chelsea/mata/mourinho so wenger started it, what a cunt

to

well pellegrini did mention it but didn't use words like unfair, wenger started it, what a cunt.


serioulsy, you are pathetic in the length you go to excuse the behaviour of one person while hammering wenger for the exact same things you are excusing someone else of

[Niall_Quinn]

Read what he says, it's much more diplomatic and sounds less like sour grapes.

:doh:

[milla]

Noone is backing Mourinho, fact is Wenger made this story with his comments. He didn't really need to answer the question or answer it like he did by talking specifically about one club.

Wenger made a story? Or Mourinho was moaning shit? Wenger stating fact, just like Pelegrini at Citeh. :coffee:

[Özim]

Well Pellegrini has made a story as well then. Let's hear your criticism. Should be twice as loud as they are ganging up on poor Jose.

He's more diplomatic and says his argument is a more general one (than Wenger).

[Özim]

so its gone from Pellegrini never mentioned chelsea/mata/mourinho so wenger started it, what a cunt

to

well pellegrini did mention it but didn't use words like unfair, wenger started it, what a cunt.


serioulsy, you are pathetic in the length you go to excuse the behaviour of one person while hammering wenger for the exact same things you are excusing someone else of

No not really, it's just that your bitter and biased, that's why you see it this way,

[Ollie the Optimist]

He's more diplomatic and says his argument is a more general one (than Wenger).

both make general points, both use the mata transfer as examples of their points.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not really, personally I've got no beef with him, he's entertaining, some of you guys though are really bitter...you'd think he'd killed a member of your family or something.

Nah, we're just a bit biased for Arsenal which means we'll do stuff like sticking up for our team and the manager. Cheer at goals, shit like that. Not your cup of tea but I think I can speak for the rest of us in saying we enjoy it.

[GP]

so its gone from Pellegrini never mentioned chelsea/mata/mourinho so wenger started it, what a cunt

to

well pellegrini did mention it but didn't use words like unfair, wenger started it, what a cunt.


serioulsy, you are pathetic in the length you go to excuse the behaviour of one person while hammering wenger for the exact same things you are excusing someone else of

Exactly right.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mourinho really is an enemy of football.

[Özim]

both make general points, both use the mata transfer as examples of their points.

Pellegrini doesn't think Wenger's point was a general one, hence the reason he comments that his view is a more general one.

Wenger's quotes didn't come across as general at all, they focussed on Chelsea and Mata, that's the problem. If you pick on a club don't expect them to take it lying down.

It's like you insulting people and expecting them to take it.

[Özim]

Nah, we're just a bit biased for Arsenal which means we'll do stuff like sticking up for our team and the manager. Cheer at goals, shit like that. Not your cup of tea but I think I can speak for the rest of us in saying we enjoy it.

Sorry pal, you come across as really bitter, so much so they've picked you out on other forums as a figure of hate, they don't even know you.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Nah, we're just a bit biased for Arsenal which means we'll do stuff like sticking up for our team and the manager. Cheer at goals, shit like that. Not your cup of tea but I think I can speak for the rest of us in saying we enjoy it.


:gp:

[AKBapologist]

Zims anti-arsene mogishness shown up again.

Managers speak, agree, ignore moan and move on...

[Özim]

Mourinho really is an enemy of football.

:lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

i have to say I've finally realised Zimm could be right, its much better to support a manager who pokes opponents in the eyes then one who is your own clubs manager.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sorry pal, you come across as really bitter, so much so they've picked you out on other forums as a figure of hate, they don't even know you.

I pissed off the fans on a gypo forum?

Badge of honour.

[Özim]

i have to say I've finally realised Zimm could be right, its much better to support a manager who pokes opponents in the eyes then one who is your own clubs manager.

I'm not supporting anyone, just playing devil's advocate.

Wenger comments on what another club does and the manager of that club responds in annoyance and you guys think he's a d*ck etc etc

It's what people do when they feel they've been criticised/attacked.

[GP]

i have to say I've finally realised Zimm could be right, its much better to support a manager who pokes opponents in the eyes then one who is your own clubs manager.

That's totally unfair.

He poked a man with cancer in the eye.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's what people do when they feel they've been criticised/attacked.

It's also what some people do when they think Maureen has been attacked. Apparently.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'm not supporting anyone, just playing devil's advocate.

Wenger comments on what another club does and the manager of that club responds in annoyance and you guys think he's a d*ck etc etc

It's what people do when they feel they've been criticised/attacked.

Wenger never ever mentioned mourinho, but don't let that fact get in the way.

and if you were playing devils advocate, you wouldn't be supporting mourinho's viewpoint over every single detail of this mata deal from a few days ago to now.

[Özim]

I pissed off the fans on a gypo forum?

Badge of honour.

Maybe it highlights how extreme your views are that people can actually be bothered to pick you out on another forum. You might have a point in many things you say, but the way you post these views comes across with a lot of bitterness as well.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe it highlights how extreme your views are that people can actually be bothered to pick you out on another forum. You might have a point in many things you say, but the way you post these views comes across with a lot of bitterness as well.

And yet I'm the one laughing while everyone furiously posts away. Which is fine by me, less work.

[Özim]

Wenger never ever mentioned mourinho, but don't let that fact get in the way.

and if you were playing devils advocate, you wouldn't be supporting mourinho's viewpoint over every single detail of this mata deal from a few days ago to now.

Mourinho manages Chelsea in case you forgot, it's his club, attacking the club and the sale of a player (which he has a direct say in), is attacking him.

I'm putting an alternative point of view across, it's a non story, but they way you guys go on it's as if a murder has been committed. Wenger decided to make comments about his club (questioning fairness etc), he replied and that's that.

I don't really have a problem with what Wenger says, nor do I have a problem with what Mourinho has said. If you don't want to rile up managers of other clubs, don't make perceived negative comments about them.

[Niall_Quinn]

Still playing devil's advocate?

[Özim]

And yet I'm the one laughing while everyone furiously posts away. Which is fine by me, less work.

That's fine, but irrelevant. I was just highlighting the style of your posts and how other people view them.

[Özim]

Still playing devil's advocate?

It's a good game.

[Niall_Quinn]

If you don't want to rile Zim, don't make perceived negative comments about city or the chavs.

:gp:

[Ollie the Optimist]

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

That's fine, but irrelevant. I was just highlighting the style of your posts and how other people view them.

By happy chance I was born with a complete inability to give a shit what people think or say about me.

[Özim]

By happy chance I was born with a complete inability to give a shit what people think or say about me.

Great but not true, no normal human being is, they might say they are but it's not true. Some people have a tougher shell, but everyone has their limit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Great but not true, no normal human being is, they might say they are but it's not true. Some people have a tougher shell, but everyone has their limit.

You assume I am a normal human being?

[milla]

Mourinho manages Chelsea in case you forgot, it's his club, attacking the club and the sale of a player (which he has a direct say in), is attacking him.

I'm putting an alternative point of view across, it's a non story, but they way you guys go on it's as if a murder has been committed. Wenger decided to make comments about his club (questioning fairness etc), he replied and that's that.

I don't really have a problem with what Wenger says, nor do I have a problem with what Mourinho has said. If you don't want to rile up managers of other clubs, don't make perceived negative comments about them.

Zim, Wenger didn't attack Mourniho but he condemn the transfer rules. He wasn't against Chelsea selling Mata but the rule that allow it. How hard is it to understand? :coffee:

[Özim]

You assume I am a normal human being?

Fair point, you could be "Bitter little cock snot" ;) . Personally I don't think so.

[Niall_Quinn]

"Bitter little cock snot"

Fuuuuck, that's a horrendous thing to say about me! Reported!

[Özim]

Zim, Wenger didn't attack Mourniho but he condemn the transfer rules. He wasn't against Chelsea selling Mata but the rule that allow it. How hard is it to understand? :coffee:

I read the quotes and listened to the interview, his comments were specifically about Chelsea (Mourinho is Chelsea), he did mention the rule but only after talking about how unfair it was they have played Man U twice and that they could have sold him last week etc.

[Özim]

Fuuuuck, that's a horrendous thing to say about me! Reported!

:lol:

[milla]

I read the quotes and listened to the interview, his comments were specifically about Chelsea (Mourinho is Chelsea), he did mention the rule but only after talking about how unfair it was they have played Man U twice and that they could have sold him last week etc.

Of course he specified Chelsea cos they are the one under the spotlight :doh:

Mata's transfer is an example of a bad transfer rule, that is his main point! :coffee:

[Özim]

Of course he specified Chelsea cos they are the one under the spotlight :doh:

Mata's transfer is an example of a bad transfer rule, that is his main point! :coffee:

If you look at Pellegini's comments they were somewhat more general, that was my point. If you have a point to make it's better to be more general rather than focussing on one particular club because the latter is likely to rub that club up the wrong way.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not really, personally I've got no beef with him, he's entertaining, some of you guys though are really bitter...you'd think he'd killed a member of your family or something.

He's about as entertaining as being hit in the face with a chair.

Although in your case I'm sure we would all laugh


No offense :coffee:

[Özim]

He's about as entertaining as being hit in the face with a chair.

Although in your case I'm sure we would all laugh


No offense :coffee:

That's your opinion.

Lot's of people think he's pretty charismatic and entertaining however, his interviews are quite often tongue and cheek and quite amusing.

[milla]

If you look at Pellegini's comments they were somewhat more general, that was my point. If you have a point to make it's better to be more general rather than focussing on one particular club because the latter is likely to rub that club up the wrong way.

Why does it matter if it general or not? Wenger always has strong opinion, just like Mourinho, SAF, Klopp etc. Otherwise why would jurno attend their press?

[Özim]

Why does it matter if it general or not? Wenger always has strong opinion, just like Mourinho, SAF, Klopp etc. Otherwise why would jurno attend their press?

I'll tell you why, if you make a general comment noone feels attacked or gets riled, if you pick out players/managers/clubs then you will.

If your intention is to p*ss off other clubs/managers fine, but if you're trying to make a point then the general comment is better.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I read the quotes and listened to the interview, his comments were specifically about Chelsea (Mourinho is Chelsea), he did mention the rule but only after talking about how unfair it was they have played Man U twice and that they could have sold him last week etc.
So when Pellegrini mentioned his views on the matter, who exactly do you think he was talking about?

I mean apart from agreeing with Wenger and mentioning Chelsea, Mata and Man utd.

Who else??

[KSE Comedy Club]

That's your opinion.

Lot's of people think he's pretty charismatic and entertaining however, his interviews are quite often tongue and cheek and quite amusing.
Once upon a time maybe, but since he went a bit mad in spain he now just comes across as an arrogant cunt who thinks he is god.

It only the fucking retards in the british media who don't seem to give a shit and still pray at the altar of 'the special one'

[Özim]

So when Pellegrini mentioned his views on the matter, who exactly do you think he was talking about?

I mean apart from agreeing with Wenger and mentioning Chelsea, Mata and Man utd.

Who else??

It doesn't matter as he didn't specifically pick out Chelsea, he also made it clear his point was a general one.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We are slowly getting players back and looking in really good shape......... it would be bloody lovely if Wenger actually signs the German sensation this window.

A 20 year old for a truck load of money. Wenger must really mean business if so....

[KSE Comedy Club]

It doesn't matter as he didn't specifically pick out Chelsea, he also made it clear his point was a general one.

:lol:

[Munchies]

Rooney close to signing a 300K A WEEK 5 Year Deal at United ( Telegraph )

:o

[I am invisible]

More Germans! More I say! Hang those that speak of less!

[GP]

Rooney close to signing a 300K A WEEK 5 Year Deal at United ( Telegraph )

:o

5 years?? Are they mad?

[Marc Overmars]

Mourinho sells his son Essien to AC.

[Munchies]

5 years?? Are they mad?

Roughly £78m for 5 years.

Isn't he nearly 30 already now?

Rooney seems like a cunt though, always forces their hand with the threat of leaving. Good on him though, hope he signs it and they get relegated along with that £40m outlay on Mata.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

He's 28, so that would take him to 33. Last big contract one suspects.

More German's indeed. Gundogan in the summer?

[milla]

He's 28, so that would take him to 33. Last big contract one suspects.

More German's indeed. Gundogan in the summer?

We should raid Bayern Munich not Dortmund, ffs :doh:

[GP]

Marco Cyrus in the summer, tbh.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We should raid Bayern Munich not Dortmund, ffs :doh:

Is this one of those times I smile and nod.....

[Xhaka Can’t]

Can't believe our lot on GW are backing Mourinho on this :doh:


It's beyond pathetic. It's pure WUMing.


5 years?? Are they desperate?

Yes.

Yes they are.

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[Power n Glory]

Why does it matter if it general or not? Wenger always has strong opinion, just like Mourinho, SAF, Klopp etc. Otherwise why would jurno attend their press?

Given Wenger and Mourinho's history, Wenger should steer clear of talking about Chelsea and they're transfers. He's no good at the mind games and we should just focus on us. As said, Wenger could have avoided it. If he's prepared for a spat with Mourinho, fine. But you can't say Jose was unprovoked.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYBCOTUluo

What a bunch of fuckin plastic cunts, :haha: , know fuck all

[Niall_Quinn]

What a bunch of fuckin plastic cunts, :haha: , know fuck all

He'd have a hard time doing that to ours fans. Never heard of him, never heard of him, never heard of him, who? Wenger :doh:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wenger was completely accurate and spoke factually about a topic others have broached.
Maureen cried about that nasty conspiratorial fixture computer.

There is no debate to be had on who the fucktard is.

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[Munchies]

Wenger was completely accurate and spoke factually about a topic others have broached.
Maureen cried about that nasty conspiratorial fixture computer.

There is no debate to be had on who the fucktard is.

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Basically he's a cunt.

[Ralpheroo72]

Wenger was completely accurate and spoke factually about a topic others have broached.
Maureen cried about that nasty conspiratorial fixture computer.

There is no debate to be had on who the fucktard is.

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Basically, Maureen can eat a dick.

[Niall_Quinn]

Basically, Maureen is fat.

[Power n Glory]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9132292/transfer-news-arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-denies-a-deal-is-done-for-schalkes-julian-draxler

No Draxler deal according to Wenger. We don't need wide players.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Which probably means he's on his way......time to make a banner!

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYBCOTUluo

What a bunch of fuckin plastic cunts, :haha: , know fuck all

That's brilliant. :haha:

Dumb fucks.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYBCOTUluo

What a bunch of fuckin plastic cunts, :haha: , know fuck all

Ha ha ha ha bunch o fannies!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:haha:

I like no matter who it is they're "fast innit".

[Munchies]

West Ham singing Nocerino :wacko:

[Munchies]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/24/article-2545544-1AEF86F800000578-933_634x369.jpg

United linked to £25m Kroos after Moyes was pictured with his agent... that's one of the images :haha:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9132292/transfer-news-arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-denies-a-deal-is-done-for-schalkes-julian-draxler

No Draxler deal according to Wenger. We don't need wide players.

Oh bah humbug.......

Stay tuned folks....

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be073ehIAAA_9rh.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be08DKmIEAAg7ZG.jpg
@ManUtd
Juan Mata has arrived at the Aon Training Complex to begin his medical.

[KSE Comedy Club]

'No Juan, you stay here!'

[Grebbo]

is he filming a shoot for Burtons?

Great signing for Manure, we'd have been all over that if we didn't sign Ozil.

[GP]

They wouldn't have sold to us.

[Ollie the Optimist]

is he filming a shoot for Burtons?

Great signing for Manure, we'd have been all over that if we didn't sign Ozil.

yeah a man who wouldn't loan us demba ba would really allow us to sign mata

[milla]

Given Wenger and Mourinho's history, Wenger should steer clear of talking about Chelsea and they're transfers. He's no good at the mind games and we should just focus on us. As said, Wenger could have avoided it. If he's prepared for a spat with Mourinho, fine. But you can't say Jose was unprovoked.


"What I said was not a complaint, it has nothing to do with Chelsea. It was just a suggestion of 'do you think it is right or wrong'.

"Everybody is free in life to have his opinion about people. I never speak about people. I speak about facts and ideas. Never about people."

Would that clear it for you lot? :doh:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Great minds talk discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people - Eleanor Roosevelt


I never speak about people. I speak about facts and ideas. Never about people." Arsene Wenger

Arsene :bow:

[Power n Glory]

Would that clear it for you lot? :doh:

Why would that clear things up? That's not a good quote. As said, Wenger should avoid speaking on Chelsea if he doesn't want to get into it with Jose but if that's all a part of his plans then he's achieved that.

[Penguin]

Wenger sounded silly by calling the transfer 'unfair' and even suggesting that it should be against the rules. There's nothing unfair about it and he's making himself an easy target for no reason.

He would have been better off cutting out the bullshit and saying that it was a sign that Mourinho is scared.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Wenger sounded silly by calling the transfer 'unfair' and even suggesting that it should be against the rules. There's nothing unfair about it and he's making himself an easy target for no reason.

He would have been better off cutting out the bullshit and just calling Mourinho a cunt.


:gp:

[Power n Glory]

Wenger sounded silly by calling the transfer 'unfair' and even suggesting that it should be against the rules. There's nothing unfair about it and he's making himself an easy target for no reason.

He would have been better off cutting out the bullshit and saying that it was a sign that Mourinho is scared.

:gp:

Go for the jugular if on the attack or don't say anything at all.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Yeah, if you're on the attack. Which he wasn't.

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[Munchies]

West Ham sign Roma's Borriello on loan.

Big Sam wheeling and dealing.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah, if you're on the attack. Which he wasn't.

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That's your opinion. If Mourinho had been asked a similar question about the Ozil signing and he'd given an 'honest' opinion along the lines of Ozil moving from a title winning team to Arsenal, a team that hasn't won in a while and then gone on to say Real Madrid have many quality players compared to Arsenal, will he settle in England, casting doubt on the move.... what would you think he's up to? These guys aren't naive even if some people on here are. They know the game.

Jose mocking Wenger doesn't shock me and he's taking the piss with the schedule talk because that's usually what Wenger would complain about.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Except that Wenger has been consistent on this for years. At no point did he drag this into the gutter by being personally insulting and disrespectful Really, the lengths some people will go to to support a fucking toe rag like Mourinho here is disturbing. They need to have a word with themselves.

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[Ollie the Optimist]

Arsene's opinions on the january transfer window have been the same since he moved here. he doesn't like it because of what he said yesterday. he gave his opinion, backed it up with his reasons and never personally attacked anyone.

Mourinho, read the headline, put in a cheap dig about Arsene always moaning, before then having a moan about our fixture list compared to chelsea's fixture list. oh and he also poked a man with cancer in the eye and never apologised for it.


yet people still support him over Arsene. its pathetic

[Maestro]

Irrespective of how good he is as a coach, Mourinho is a spiteful idiot. Period!

[Master Splinter]

Jose mocking Wenger doesn't shock me and he's taking the piss with the schedule talk because that's usually what Wenger would complain about.

Or what Mourinho would complain about. As he has done numerous times this season. Like before the Carling Cup game against us. Which he brought up again here. Because he's a petty, bitter, attention-seeking individual as any piece of audio/visual evidence confirms every time he speaks on any subject. To somehow make Mourinho the victor of The 178th Official Mind Games 2014 and slam Wenger for a point he's made many times before is well, puzzling at best and plain wrong at worst.

[Syn]

It might not be a case of supporting Mourinho over Wenger but maybe more a need to be seen as impartial as an Arsenal fan. To any sane person the facts are that Wenger didn't say Chelsea were doing anything wrong and he made a point of saying Chelsea don't make the rules. You'd have to love drama to call that an 'attack' on Chelsea. He deliberately made his point very clear as to why he thinks the January window should be scrapped and if people don't understand it, I don't consider them capable of making any credible comments on this.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Jose mocking Wenger doesn't shock me and he's taking the piss with the schedule talk because that's usually what Wenger would complain about.

he threatened to play his kids in the COC game against us because of unfair scheduling. he isn't taking the piss, he's being a cunt

[Power n Glory]

Except that Wenger has been consistent on this for years. At no point did he drag this into the gutter by being personally insulting and disrespectful Really, the lengths some people will go to to support a fucking toe rag like Mourinho here is disturbing. They need to have a word with themselves.

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Don't even try that nonsense as well. We all know Mourinho is a prick and he's acted accordingly. It's not a defence so quit trying to play that 'lesser fan' card. This just looks weak from Wenger in my opinion.

Why is he complaining? It makes him look worried and I hate to see that sort of thing. It makes me worry. I'm not against him taking shots if it's done in a smart way and doesn't make him look like he's complaining, making excuses or suggesting Chelsea have some sort of advantage.

He's loaned players to other Prem clubs in January (Wilshere) and he's bought to qualify for Champs League, he's also strengthened our rivals so he hasn't got a strong case on this. It just doesn't look great and gives the press and Jose more ammunition when it's not needed.

[Master Splinter]

It might not be a case of supporting Mourinho over Wenger but maybe more a need to be seen as impartial as an Arsenal fan. To any sane person the facts are that Wenger didn't say Chelsea were doing anything wrong and he made a point of saying Chelsea don't make the rules. You'd have to love drama to call that an 'attack' on Chelsea. He deliberately made his point very clear as to why he thinks the January window should be scrapped and if people don't understand it, I don't consider them capable of making any credible comments on this.

Hard to disagree. Genuinely.

At times, I think people are in thrall of any narrative established by Skysporrts/BBC/Talksport/The Sun/The Mail. It's the only explanation of how someone could even begin to latch onto such an inaccurate, dishonest and twisted thought process.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Don't even try that nonsense as well. We all know Mourinho is a prick and he's acted accordingly. It's not a defence so quit trying to play that 'lesser fan' card. This just looks weak from Wenger in my opinion.

Why is he complaining? It makes him look worried and I hate to see that sort of thing. It makes me worry. I'm not against him taking shots if it's done in a smart way and doesn't make him look like he's complaining, making excuses or suggesting Chelsea have some sort of advantage.

He's loaned players to other Prem clubs in January (Wilshere) and he's bought to qualify for Champs League, he's also strengthened our rivals so he hasn't got a strong case on this. It just doesn't look great and gives the press and Jose more ammunition when it's not needed.


you keep going on about wenger moaning therefore being scared and weak. what you seem to fail to realise here is he just stated his opinion on the transfer window that he states every time. if you really think a manager is scared, then in this case it will be mourinho by moaning about our fixtures compared to his.

[Özim]

Except that Wenger has been consistent on this for years. At no point did he drag this into the gutter by being personally insulting and disrespectful Really, the lengths some people will go to to support a fucking toe rag like Mourinho here is disturbing. They need to have a word with themselves.

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He's consistently said Man U haved played Chelsea twice and that Mata could have been sold last week and that it was unfair that he could be sold now?

I see.

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[Xhaka Can’t]

Don't even try that nonsense as well. We all know Mourinho is a prick and he's acted accordingly. It's not a defence so quit trying to play that 'lesser fan' card. This just looks weak from Wenger in my opinion.

Why is he complaining? It makes him look worried and I hate to see that sort of thing. It makes me worry. I'm not against him taking shots if it's done in a smart way and doesn't make him look like he's complaining, making excuses or suggesting Chelsea have some sort of advantage.

He's loaned players to other Prem clubs in January (Wilshere) and he's bought to qualify for Champs League, he's also strengthened our rivals so he hasn't got a strong case on this. It just doesn't look great and gives the press and Jose more ammunition when it's not needed.

You have completely failed to comprehend what Wenger said and/or the context of his statement. Wenger has made a fundamental point on a view he has consistently held for years.

He is perfectly entitled to do that and he did it in a manner where he went out of his way to make clear he is not criticising Chelsea who have done nothing wrong.

Going off on one at Wenger, yeah, I expect that off a sub human twat like Maureen, and the press who will stoop to whatever level it takes to sell a paper.

I don't expect it however from Arsenal fans on an Arsenal forum.

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[Xhaka Can’t]

No you don't see. You never do.

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[Özim]

No you don't see. You never do.

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No of course not, sorry I forgot you're God and decide what's right and wrong.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No of course not, sorry I forgot you're God and decide what's right and wrong.

The only thing I decide is not to misinterpret fairly simp!e situations.

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[Ollie the Optimist]

i still can't believe there are Arsenal fans who are taking Mourinho's side over Arsene Wenger's. its almost as if they have agendas

[Xhaka Can’t]

Almost. :sarcy:

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[Özim]

The only thing I decide is not to misinterpret fairly simp!e situations.

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The problem with you is you're unable to read between the lines either, if someone uses the term "unfair" it suggests someone is getting favourable treatment, not the case in this scenario.

Wenger talked about Chelsea, specified how it was unfair (i.e they unfairly gained an advantage) and how they could have sold him last week (why would they?) and have played Man U twice. Please explain to me what those two comments have to do with the rules?

He could have just said he doesn't think the January transfer window should exist without mentioning the rest, that would have been totally fine.

[Özim]

i still can't believe there are Arsenal fans who are taking Mourinho's side over Arsene Wenger's. its almost as if they have agendas

There's lots of things you can't believe, usually stuff that involves other clubs however.

[GP]

i still can't believe there are Arsenal fans who are taking Mourinho's side over Arsene Wenger's. its almost as if they have agendas

I still can't believe it's not butter.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm not about to get so basic about this where o have to explain what someone with the comprehension of a ten year old ought to understand.

[Özim]

Haters gonna hate, c'est la vie I guess.

[Power n Glory]

You have completely failed to comprehend what Wenger said and/or the context of his statement. Wenger has made a fundamental point on a view he has consistently held for years.

He is perfectly entitled to do that and he did it in a manner where he went out of his way to make clear he is not criticising Chelsea who have done nothing wrong.

Going off on one at Wenger, yeah, I expect that off a sub human twat like Maureen, and the press who will stoop to whatever level it takes to sell a paper.

I don't expect it however from Arsenal fans on an Arsenal forum.

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:lol: Cheeky guy. There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills and I get the context. This is what I'm basing my argument on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25863298

It was simple question from the journalist...'are you surprised by the Mata deal'. There were many ways to answer that without talking about 'fairness' because we've used the January transfer window for our own gain and sold/loaned players to Prem clubs as well. The last three Prem holders have all benefited from top players we've sold them. Is that not true? Don't gloss over that part of the argument.

It's not as if we can't use the window to strengthen our squad so I don't agree with his argument and plenty of journalists can pull him up on that. He's making it sound as if Chelsea have an advantage over us when the window is open for everybody. He has a fundamental point of view and he's used Chelsea as an example and I'm inclined to disagree. Is that okay with you? It's not as if this is the first time I've disagreed with Wenger's views on the transfer window and don't act as if you've always been in agreement with it as well. Take those 'true Arsenal fan' taunts somewhere else. I don't have to agree with you or Wenger on everything.

[KSE Comedy Club]

He's consistently said Man U haved played Chelsea twice and that Mata could have been sold last week and that it was unfair that he could be sold now?

I see.

Sent from my Nexus 8 using TapatalkHe hasn't consistently said that at all.

He said it once. He doesn't repeat it every year, unlike his opinion that the January transfer window should be scrapped.

[Özim]

He hasn't consistently said that at all.

He said it once. He doesn't repeat it every year, unlike his opinion that the January transfer window should be scrapped.

Just picking up on what Frenchie suggested.

As for the other bit, not strictly true, last year Wenger called for clubs to be limited to signing only two new players in the January window, slightly different take I'd say.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Just picking up on what Frenchie suggested.

As for the other bit, not strictly true, last year Wenger called for clubs to be limited to signing only two new players in the January window, slightly different take I'd say.

fair enough.

Anyway, I blame Milla.

He started this argument again!

[Power n Glory]

Or what Mourinho would complain about. As he has done numerous times this season. Like before the Carling Cup game against us. Which he brought up again here. Because he's a petty, bitter, attention-seeking individual as any piece of audio/visual evidence confirms every time he speaks on any subject. To somehow make Mourinho the victor of The 178th Official Mind Games 2014 and slam Wenger for a point he's made many times before is well, puzzling at best and plain wrong at worst.

Why is Wenger bothered by the Mata deal? Why does it matter? What point is he trying to make about 'fairness'?

Mourinho is an asshole that's not up for debate but answer the above. What message is Wenger trying to get across and whose his audience? I don't get why he'd offer himself up like that when there are some many holes in his argument.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Who cares, its done now either way.

Cant we just talk about transfers again?

Wheres the twitter crap and ITK bullshit???

[Niall_Quinn]

What are some of you saving up to be? Marriage guidance counsellors? In which case if you are going to refer to an opposition manager as "Jose", then could you please refer to our own manager as Arsène (rather than Wenger). Or better still, le Boss.

Even if Maureen was right, which he wasn't and isn't, Wenger is our manager so we support him regardless. Maureen is somebody else's manager so we don't support him. Which bit is complicated? I just don't get why fans want to be "fair" about anything? What's the point of that? You can't be a fan and be fair, surely? Fair people are observers, not fans.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why is Wenger bothered by the Mata deal? Why does it matter? What point is he trying to make about 'fairness'?

Mourinho is an asshole that's not up for debate but answer the above. What message is Wenger trying to get across and whose his audience? I don't get why he'd offer himself up like that when there are some many holes in his argument.

The Mata thing is the side issue, FFP is the main issue. The gypos have already cheated on that with their incest sponsorship, so they are a lost cause. Wenger actually said for the first time he sees the chavs as being genuine about FFP. That was they key point and that's where the fairness (level playing field) comes into it. They've had to sell Mata to balance the books. From what I can see Wenger offered an olive branch, albeit hidden in a rose bush. He said, good, the chavs are finally playing by the rules. But he also said those rules in some respects are shite, like the January transfer window. He's always said that though.