Qatar Shitshow 2022 thread

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save for Sommer to deny Vinicius!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lights have gone out. :haha:

Briefly.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Lights have gone out. :haha:

Briefly.

It’s a stadium made from shipping containers, it’s a surprise anything works

[Letters]

Still 0-0. Only just turned it on.
Not seeing much of that Brazilian swagger at the moment.

[Letters]

What a ball! Richaliason couldn’t get on the end of it.

[Letters]

1-0 Brazil. Vermicious Knid
Lovely finish.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 Vinicius!

[Letters]

VAR check. No goal :doh:

[Letters]

Jesus comes on :bow:

[Letters]

How far is (original) Ronaldo?! :lol:

[Letters]

1-0 (again)
What a goal!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 Casemiro!

[Letters]

How far is (original) Ronaldo?! :lol:

I meant “fat”

And the answer is “very”

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 FT.

Brazil through unsurprisingly.

Martinelli and Jesus to start against Cameroon. :bow:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Disappointing, was hoping the Swiss would hold out for a point

I’m quite Anti Brazil in many ways. For me their reputation of being the side everyone loves because they play the perfect iteration of the game just isn’t true. I think Casemiro who was the match winner is an excellent midfielder but Fred and Paqueta? Average.

Their players are usually exceptionally athletic and physically quick but they tend to be more hard to beat because of the way they dominate possession rather than a side of individual and team brilliance.

For me the last time they were that was when they had the front three of Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Fat Ronaldo

[Marc Overmars]

Pepe is still a thing? No chance Portugal can win it with a 40 year old at the back FFS.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Portugal: Costa, Cancelo, Dias, Pepe, Mendes, Silva, Neves, Carvalho, Fernandes, Ronaldo, Joao Felix.
Subs: Rui Patricio, Dalot, Gurreiro, Palhinha, Andre Silva, Sa, Leao, Vitinha, Joao Mario, Ricardo Horta, Nunes, Antonio Silva, Ramos.

Uruguay: Rochet, Coates, Godin, Gimenez, Varela, Valverde, Vecino, Bentancur, Olivera, Nunez, Cavani.
Subs: Muslera, De La Cruz, Pellistri, Suarez, De Arrascaeta, Sosa, Torreira, Vina, Gomez, Torres, Caceres, Canobbio, Ugarte, Rodriguez.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Pepe is still a thing? No chance Portugal can win it with a 40 year old at the back FFS.

There’s no chance they are going to win it regardless of who they play at centre back. They aren’t that good. They have decent players. I think Bernardo Silva and Jota are very good but both play better for club than country. Bruno Fernandes is hit and miss. Rafael Leao could be a top striker

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bentancur. :lol:

From a few minutes ago.

[Letters]

Another 0-0 at half time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT. Shite.

[Letters]

Felix smacks the side netting.
Thought it had gone in at first.

[Letters]

1-0. Portugal.
Ronaldo. If he touched it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think he did

[Letters]

Alan Smith at Anfield ‘89 all over again

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Goal given to Fernandes.

Piers Morgan must be in ruins.

[Letters]

I think he did

I thought so but now I don’t. There’s no change of spin on the ball, I reckon it went straight in.
Or, at least, even if it did brush him it made no difference to it going in.

[Letters]

Ronaldo throws himself to the floor like a fanny.
Referee having none of it :lol:

[Letters]

https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/28/pitch-invader-carrying-pride-flag-interrupts-portugal-vs-uruguay-during-world-cup-clash-17841979/

Did that happen? :unsure:
I didn’t notice any delay.

[Letters]

Uruguay smack the post!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What an effort from Gomez.

[Letters]

Side netting from Suarez.

[Letters]

Brilliant ball slipped through for Uruguay.
The bloke then didn’t really shoot or pass and it was an easy take for the ‘keeper.

[Letters]

VAR check for what would be a ludicrous pel

[Letters]

Given. What utter nonsense

[Marc Overmars]

That’s incredibly harsh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Don't think that should be given.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Peter Walton telling us what the ref has decided is fucking pointless.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 Fernandes.

[Marc Overmars]

Ghana have a chance to get some revenge for 2010. :lol:

[Letters]

Are they supposed to have their arms surgically removed or something?
Utter bullshit. I’d have been bloody furious bad that been given against us*

Fernandes thumps the post

*us being Arsenal or England.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Me :lol: for thinking Uruguay might actually be semi-decent. They've been abysmal.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 FT.

Uruguay v Ghana in the final round. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Uruguay are another one holding on to players for one tournament too many.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Netherlands v Qatar and Ecuador v Senegal are on.

[Letters]

I guess Ecuador vs Senegal is the one to watch

[Mac76]

I guess Ecuador vs Senegal is the one to watch

unless you want to see Qatar get a good kicking :)

[HCZ_Reborn]

Dunno if the Dutch are capable of giving anyone a good kicking, but Gakpo scores again

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ecuador 0-1 Senegal pelanty! Sarr with it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Netherlands 2-0 Qatar, De Jong.

[Marc Overmars]

We should sign Gakpo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ecuador 1-1 Senegal, Caicedo!

[Letters]

Ecuador equalise! 1-1. Senegal out as it stands.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ecuador 1-2 Senegal, Koulibaly!

[Letters]

Ecuador 1-2 Senegal, Koulibaly!

:lol:

Now I'm watching on ITV Player and I'm behind. Was just coming on here to post that.

[Letters]

And that's how it finished.
Vieira :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England v Senegal likely? :popcorn:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Brazil aside it’s not been a good tournament for South America

[Globalgunner]

Senegal make it to the next round. Full props to them and they did it without their star player Mane

[HCZ_Reborn]

Senegal make it to the next round. Full props to them and they did it without their star player Mane

Yeah I’d agree. To be honest I think they were unlucky to lose to the Netherlands

[HCZ_Reborn]

I must confess I like the last games in the group stage because the potential is there to spring a surprise. I thought Ecuador would get a draw and go through as runners up, the problem for them is evidently so did they. And this competition hasn’t always been kind to passive teams (and no bad thing)

[Letters]

I must confess I like the last games in the group stage because the potential is there to spring a surprise.
There's usually more at stage although less fun when a draw suits both teams.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wales: Ward; N Williams, Mepham, Rodon, B Davies; Allen, Ampadu; Bale, Ramsey, James; Moore.
Subs: Gunter, Wilson, Johnson, Roberts, Morrell, Lockyer, Williams, M Harris, Davis, Thomas, Levitt, Cabango, Colwill, Smith.

England: Pickford; Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw; Henderson, Rice, Bellingham; Rashford, Kane, Foden.
Subs: Grealish, Sterling, Trippier, Pope, Phillips, Dier, Coady, Saka, Alexander-Arnold, Mount, Ramsdale, Wilson, Maddison, Gallagher.

Saka dropped. Fuck off Southgate.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Saka dropped. Fuck off Southgate.

This

Saka has clearly been the best player of Englands front three, and Rashford brings what exactly to the wide right role

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iran: Beyranvand, Rezeian, Hosseini, Pouraliganji, Mohammadi, Noorollahi, Ezatolahi, Hajisafi, Gholizadeh, Azmoun, Taremi.
Subs: Moharrami, Khalilzadeh, Ansarifard, Amiri, Niazmand, Kanani, Ghoddos, Cheshmi, Torabi, Karimi, Abedzadeh, Hosseini, Jalali.

USA: Turner, Dest, Carter-Vickers, Ream, Robinson, McKennie, Adams, Musah, Wah, Sargent, Pulisic.
Subs: Zimmerman, Reyna, Ferreira, Aaronson, Horvath, De La Torre, Long, Morris, Roldan, Moore, Wright, Yedlin, Acosta, Johnson, Scally.

[Letters]

Saka dropped. Fuck off Southgate.

I’d suggest rested rather than dropped, we’ve all but qualified.
And I’m pretty happy for Arsenal players to not have to play too much.

[Letters]

England aren’t that good.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maguire. :haha:

[Letters]

Rashford thinks he’s Messi.
Isn’t.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Rashford thinks he’s Messi.
Isn’t.

Well he may not be and out and out striker but on this showing he certainly isn’t a winger

[Letters]

Chesney Hawkes doing a half time show :haha:

[Mac76]

Pretty awful, Wales in particular are terrible but could still nick it if it stays 0-0

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iran 0-1 USA, HT.

Pulisic with the goal.

[Mac76]

Cmon Iran ffs

[Mac76]

Bale hauled off :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Rashford, what a freekick.

[HCZ_Reborn]

2-0 Foden, lovely ball in behind the defence for him

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 now, Foden.

[Letters]

England goals are like buses…

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kane, Walker and Rice off, Wilson, Alexander-Arnold and Phillips on.

[Mac76]

Pretty sure the crowd are singing "Wales get battered everywhere they go" :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England goals are like buses…

Death traps?

[Mac76]

England goals are like buses…

Two good strikes tbf

[HCZ_Reborn]

My brother is watching on the bbc live stream for some reason, usually there’s a thirty second time lag…so will give him misleading goal updates to fuck with him

[McNamara That Ghost...]

My brother is watching on the bbc live stream for some reason, usually there’s a thirty second time lag…so will give him misleading goal updates to fuck with him

It's somewhere about 90 seconds to two minutes behind live pictures I think. It's terrible.

Federer v Nadal 2008 final at Wimbledon was literally a second behind. Why is it so bad now?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Awful challenge from Ramsey.

[HCZ_Reborn]

It's somewhere about 90 seconds to two minutes behind live pictures I think. It's terrible.

Federer v Nadal 2008 final at Wimbledon was literally a second behind. Why is it so bad now?

I was in the office for the England-Iran game, and both me and the guy opposite me watching it on our phones. Same BBC live stream service and yet he was thirty seconds ahead of me, tell me how that makes sense

[Letters]

It's somewhere about 90 seconds to two minutes behind live pictures I think. It's terrible.

Federer v Nadal 2008 final at Wimbledon was literally a second behind. Why is it so bad now?

Qatar is a long way away.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Infantino watching the match, and digs his phone out, out of boredom

Cheeky cunt

[Letters]

Pretty sure the crowd are singing "Wales get battered everywhere they go" :lol:

I thought at one point they were singing
“Are you Tottenham in disguise” :lol:
But it was probably “Scotland”

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Qatar is a long way away.

It's like this even for FA Cup ties.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Qatar is a long way away.

I just thought the players were really small

[McNamara That Ghost...]

In fact it's like it no matter what the programme is. Total shit.

ITV and Sky manage to only be 30 seconds behind.

[Mac76]

I just thought the players were really small

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Rashford makes it 3 :bow:

[Letters]

I just thought the players were really small

:haha:

[Letters]

The Wales ‘keeper :pal:

[HCZ_Reborn]

In fact it's like it no matter what the programme is. Total shit.

ITV and Sky manage to only be 30 seconds behind.

That and BBC’s commentary has now overtaken ITV in its being interminable

So whether it’s on tv or on my iPad when I’m working, it’s sound off.

[Marc Overmars]

Can’t take much away from this, would have been a very familiar type of match to our squad. Like playing a plucky PL side.

Senegal will definitely be a tougher proposition.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Funny how things change, first half I was rolling my eyes at Rashford. Now I’m thinking it’s harsh to take him off, when he’s on a hat trick.

Bellingham should have scored but fell on his arse and then Foden fluffs it after the bobbling rebound

[HCZ_Reborn]

Go on, get your phone out again…do some real product placement you bald prick

[Letters]

Wales :pal:
Sharks :pal:
Seals :pal:
Porpoises :pal:

[Mac76]

Wales were awful - to think they stopped Ukraine from getting to the World Cup

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iran appealing for something?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Was not a pelanty.

[Mac76]

Yanks are through but will get knocked out by the Dutch so no real problem

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iran 0-1 USA, FT!

Netherlands v USA
Senegal v England

[HCZ_Reborn]

Iran 0-1 USA, FT!

Netherlands v USA
Senegal v England

If England get to the semis (big If) they will play in the same stadium for all three matches. The Osama Bin Laden memorial stadium or Al Bayt or whatever it’s called

[HCZ_Reborn]

Iran appealing for something?

Appealing?

Usually when they want something they just take dual nationals hostage

[Letters]

Is anyone else getting weird behaviour with the paging in this thread?
If I go to the previous page and then try to get back to this one I…can’t
:unsure:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Is anyone else getting weird behaviour with the paging in this thread?
If I go to the previous page and then try to get back to this one I…can’t
:unsure:

Cough up a buck for a proper site you cheap bastard

[Letters]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63801583

Good Lord, they’ll be letting them vote next :sulk:

[Letters]

Cough up a buck for a proper site you cheap bastard

Now if I go back to page 61 it goes to page 60.
But going to this page works
:shrug:

[HCZ_Reborn]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63801583

Good Lord, they’ll be letting them vote next :sulk:

Given that it’s a proven fact that women don’t understand the offside rule, just as it’s a fact that dogs can’t see colours

How is this going to work? If you’ve got a female team on VAR you’re completely pissing into the wind to get an accurate ruling on offside

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wednesday 30th November 2022
Australia v Denmark, 15:00 BBC Two
Tunisia v France, 15:00 BBC One

Poland v Argentina, 19:00 BBC One
Saudi Arabia v Mexico, 19:00 BBC Two

All times GMT.

[HCZ_Reborn]

France make a lot of changes

[WMUG]

Given that it’s a proven fact that women don’t understand the offside rule, just as it’s a fact that dogs can’t see colours

How is this going to work? If you’ve got a female team on VAR you’re completely pissing into the wind to get an accurate ruling on offside

Didn't you get exiled to Qatar?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Didn't you get exiled to Qatar?

No it was St Helena

[Mac76]

St Helena was exiled to Qatar?

[Letters]

Who's on first?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tunisia 1-0 France, Khazri!

Australia 1-0 Denmark, Leckie!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saliba is on. :bow:

Mbappe and Rabiot too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty initially given to Denmark but it is offside.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Australia 1-0 Denmark, FT! Socceroos are thorough! Gutting for Tunisia after such an effort.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tunisia 1-1 France, Griezmann!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Goal disallowed for France!

[Marc Overmars]

Damn that’s got to suck for Tunisia.

Surprised Denmark flopped, thought they would have got out of this group easily.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Is it me or had the full time whistle gone before the France goal was scrubbed

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Poland: Szczesny, Bereszynski, Kiwior, Glik, Cash, Frankowski, Krychowiak, Bielik, Zielinski, Lewandowski, Karol Swiderski.
Subs: Jedrzejczyk, Wieteska, Bednarek, Milik, Szymanski, Grosicki, Skorupski, Kaminski, Zurkowsi, Szymanski, Zalewski, Grabara, Piatek, Gumny, Skoras.

Argentina :Martinez, Acuna, Otamendi, Romero, Molina, Fernandez, Rodrigo De Paul, Mac Allister, Messi, Di Maria, Alvarez.
Subs: Armani, Foyth, Tagliafico, Montiel, Paredes, Pezzella, Rulli, Palacios, Correa, Almada, Gomez Villaverde, Rodriguez, Dybala, Martinez, Martinez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Is it me or had the full time whistle gone before the France goal was scrubbed

Possibly but like Brighton v Man Utd it doesn't matter if there is a VAR check.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saudi Arabia: Al Owais, Abdulhamid, Al Amri, Al Bulayhi, Al Ghannam, Al Tambakti, Al Brikan, Al Hassan, Kanno, Al Dawsari, Al Shehri.
Subs: Subs: Al Rubaie Al Yami, Madu, Otayf, Al Naji, Al Abid, Bahbri, Al Obud, Al Suweiti Al Aqidi, Al Shardan Al Dawsari, Asiri, Sharahili

Mexico: Ochoa, Alvarez, Sanchez, Montes, Moreno, Gallardo, Chavez, Pineda, Lozano, Vega, Martin.
Subs: Talavera, Araujo, Vasquez, Arteaga, Romo, Rodriguez, Jimenez, Funes Mori, Cota, Gutierrez, Herrera, Guardao, Antuna, Alvarado, Alvarez.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Possibly but like Brighton v Man Utd it doesn't matter if there is a VAR check.

See that bollocks to me, if the game is finished…then tough titty

Are you going to retrospectively change the result a day after, if it discovered a players hair follicle was in an offside position

[Marc Overmars]

Ben White has left the squad and flown home for personal reasons.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ben White has left the squad and flown home for personal reasons.

Not being picked count as personal reasons?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great block from Messi to deny Di Maria. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ches saved from Messi a couple of minutes ago.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Acuna blazes it, great pick out from Messi.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alvarez shot blocked, Acuna shot goes wide!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Review for a pel

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Argentina!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ches saved it! :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Chesney :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Poland 0-1 Argentina, Mac Allister!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Mexico in front as well but as things stand still heading out as Poland have superior goal difference.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a chance for Glik!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saudia Arabia 0-2 Mexico!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 Alvarez!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saudia Arabia 1-2 Mexico!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FT, Mexico win but are out!

Argentina v Australia
Poland v France

[Letters]

Australia :rose:
Poland :rose:

[Mac76]

Not being picked count as personal reasons?

he personally hates K**e and Trippier perhaps?

[dazthegooner]

he personally hates K**e and Trippier perhaps?

Who doesn’t? :shrug:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Thursday 1st December 2022
Canada v Morocco, 15:00 BBC Two
Croatia v Belgium, 15:00 BBC One

Costa Rica v Germany, 19:00 ITV4
Japan v Spain, 19:00 ITV1/STV

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Canada 0-1 Morocco, Ziyech!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Croatia!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No pel, offside.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Canada 0-2 Morocco, En-Nesyri!

[Letters]

Oh, Canada :doh:

[HCZ_Reborn]

My prediction that Morocco would do well in this tournament seems to be bearing fruit. Could be playing Germany in last 16, that would be interesting game

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Canada 1-2 Morocco, Aguerd OG!

[Marc Overmars]

Lukaku smashes the post, should have buried it :lol:

[Letters]

How did he miss that?! :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lukaku. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Lukaku heads over from point blank :haha:

Would have been disallowed as the ball had gone out but that was terrible anyway.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And again. :haha:

[Letters]

He's having a mare :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He hasn't missed it again has he? :haha:

[Letters]

He's completed his hat-trick of misses :lol:
Although that one wasn't easy, to be fair.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lukaku. :haha:

[Letters]

Holy shit, Lukaku :haha:

[Globalgunner]

Lukaku makes Giroud look clinical

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Croatia 0-0 Belgium, FT!

Belgium are out!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Martinez to rock up still coaching them for Germany '24 :bow:

[Letters]

Belgium :pal:
Moules :pal:
Frites :pal:
Poirot :pal:

What a nightmare from Lukaku. Should have had a hat-trick.

[Marc Overmars]

Lukaku. :haha:

What a stinker.

Really good squad of players but no doubt they should have looked for a better coach a long time ago.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica: Navas, Vargas, Waston, Duarte, Oviedo, Tejeda, Borges, Fuller, Campbell, Aguilera, Venegas.
Subs: Chacon, Contreras, Bennette, Ruiz, Torres, Salas, Martinez, Alvarado, Lopez, Matarrita, Sequeia, Wilson, Hernandez, Zamora.

Germany: Neuer, Rudiger, Raum, Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry, Muller, Musiala, Sule, Sane, Gundogan.
Subs: Ginter, Kehrer, Havertz, Fullkrug, Goetze, Trapp, Klostermann, Brandt, Hofmann, Gunter, ter Stegen, Schlotterbeck, Adeyemi, Bella-Kotchap, Moukoko.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan: Gonda, Taniguchi, Yoshida, Itakura, Nagatomo, Morita, Ito, Tanaka, Kamada, Kubo, Maeda.
Subs: Kawashima, Yamane, Endo, Shibasaki, Doan, Mitoma, Minamino, Tomiyasu, Asano, H Sakai, Machino, Ueda, Schmidt, Soma, Ito.

Spain: Unai Simon; Azpilicueta, Rodri, Pau Torres, Balde, Busquets, Pedri, Gavi, Nico Williams, Olmo, Morata.
Subs: Sanchez, Garcia, Llorente, Koke, Asensio, F Torres, Raya, Guillamon, Pino, Jordi Alba, Soler, Carvajal, Sarabia, Laporte, Ansu Fati.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Luis Enrique fielding a much different line-up to the previous game.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Martinez to rock up still coaching them for Germany '24 :bow:

He’s resigned

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How has Muller missed that? :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He’s resigned

Contract ran out at the end of the World Cup.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica 0-1 Germany, Gnabry!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Morata scores for Spain

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan 0-1 Spain, goal machine Morata!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan's team seemed really odd, felt like most of their best performers are on the bench.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fuller should've made it 1-1!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan 1-1 Spain!

Simon is bad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan 2-1 Oh disallowed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Goal given! :wacko:

I thought it went out.

[Marc Overmars]

I’m sure that ball went out. :blink:

[Marc Overmars]

Just hit rewind to see the close up again and it definitely went out.

Bizarre.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica 1-1 Germany! Holy shit, Spain and Germany both in danger of going out!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Musiala hits the post!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Musiala hits the post again!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tomiyasu on for Japan!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica 2-1 Germany!!! OMG

[Marc Overmars]

Wow :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

What are the odds Spain and Germany go through :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica 2-2 Germany, Havertz!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a save from Navas!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Costa Rica 2-3 Germany, Havertz with his second!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-4 Germany now after VAR intervenes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Japan and Spain through! Wow.

Germany. :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Does that Japan fan know they've gone through?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fuck this Tournament, big load of shit much like the European teams playing in it

Looking forward to a Brazil procession where they win because they don’t have to play anyone big…

And Fuck FIFA for giving a goal when the ball had gone out of play

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Croatia v Japan
Morocco v Spain

[Marc Overmars]

Germany. :haha:

Incredible effort from Japan. Don’t think anyone would have bet on them beating Germany and Spain to progress.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Germany. :haha:

Incredible effort from Japan. Don’t think anyone would have bet on them beating Germany and Spain to progress.

I don’t really give a fuck about Germany one way or the other

But more pissed off that Brazil have piss easy journey to the semi finals. If Spain had killed off the game like they should have done, a ball being completely out apart from a camera trick showing part of it over hanging would have been academic

Same bullshit four years ago one half of the draw was a wash out and that’s basically how average dross like Croatia make the final

[Letters]

Clearly in ##

https://i.ibb.co/KFdvgK2/VARJapan.jpg

[Letters]

a ball being completely out apart from a camera trick showing part of it over hanging
It's not a camera trick :lol:
If anything the camera trick is the other angle where you see grass between the ball and the line. That's not how that rule works. It's not the part of the ball that contacts the ground that has to be over the line, it's the whole of the ball which has to be over the whole of the line. In the still above it is admittedly difficult to determine that but it is at least from the right angle. With all the goal line technology and chips now being in the ball, there should be no way they can get these things wrong. Pretty much everything else in football is subjective, but with this...it either did or it didn't go all the way over the line.

EDIT: For the lolz, I put the above into my trusty Paint.NET and drew a circle around the ball. You can pretty clearly see if you do that it's not completely over the line. I am presupposing that the still is the furthest to the right (as we look in that image) the ball went.

EDIT2:
https://i.ibb.co/6w9w8j8/VARJapan2.jpg

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It's not a camera trick :lol:
If anything the camera trick is the other angle where you see grass between the ball and the line. That's not how that rule works. It's not the part of the ball that contacts the ground that has to be over the line, it's the whole of the ball which has to be over the whole of the line. In the still above it is admittedly difficult to determine that but it is at least from the right angle. With all the goal line technology and chips now being in the ball, there should be no way they can get these things wrong. Pretty much everything else in football is subjective, but with this...it either did or it didn't go all the way over the line.

EDIT: For the lolz, I put the above into my trusty Paint.NET and drew a circle around the ball. You can pretty clearly see if you do that it's not completely over the line. I am presupposing that the still is the furthest to the right (as we look in that image) the ball went.

EDIT2:
https://i.ibb.co/6w9w8j8/VARJapan2.jpg


If you take a picture from far enough away you can show the ball overlapping the line even if it’s in the advertising hoardings.

This is nonsense, utter and complete nonsense. Once there is clear daylight between the ball and the line it’s over

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If you take a picture from far enough away you can show the ball overlapping the line even if it’s in the advertising hoardings.
With respect, what the utter fuck are you talking about? Taking a picture from further away doesn't make two objects which don't overlap magically overlap.
This is nothing to do with distance, it's to do with angles.


This is nonsense, utter and complete nonsense. Once there is clear daylight between the ball and the line it’s over
Yes, IF you're looking from the right angle. Look, I took my boy's ball and overlapped it with our very stylish bathmat. Much more clearly overlapping than the incident last night.
BUT if you take a picture from the right angle you can see "daylight" between the ball and mat. But that's not how you determine whether the ball is overlapping the mat.
To do that you take the photo from right overhead. And from that angle you can clearly see it is:

https://i.ibb.co/wy7jtPY/VARJapan3.jpg

:shrug:

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Friday 2nd December 2022
Ghana v Uruguay, 15:00 BBC Two
South Korea v Portugal, 15:00 BBC One

Cameroon v Brazil, 19:00 ITV1/STV
Serbia v Switzerland, 19:00 ITV4

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With respect, what the utter fuck are you talking about? Taking a picture from further away doesn't make two objects which don't overlap magically overlap.
This is nothing to do with distance, it's to do with angles.


Yes, IF you're looking from the right angle. Look, I took my boy's ball and overlapped it with our very stylish bathmat. Much more clearly overlapping than the incident last night.
BUT if you take a picture from the right angle you can see "daylight" between the ball and mat. But that's not how you determine whether the ball is overlapping the mat.
To do that you take the photo from right overhead. And from that angle you can clearly see it is:

https://i.ibb.co/wy7jtPY/VARJapan3.jpg

:shrug:

It’s not overlapping the map it just looks like it is, that’s the point I’m making

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It’s not overlapping the map it just looks like it is, that’s the point I’m making

What it looks like depends what angle you look from. From the first picture you can see that the part of the ball which touches the ground does not overlap the mat.
But that's not the rule in football, it's the WHOLE of the ball which has to cross the WHOLE of the line. The only way to determine that is to look straight down.

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What it looks like depends what angle you look from. From the first picture you can see that the part of the ball which touches the ground does not overlap the mat.
But that's not the rule in football, it's the WHOLE of the ball which has to cross the WHOLE of the line. The only way to determine that is to look straight down.

Given we are talking about a football and not a parasol, the whole of the ball has crossed the line when there’s daylight between the ball and the line. Anything else is specious bullshit.

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Given we are talking about a football and not a parasol, the whole of the ball has crossed the line when there’s daylight between the ball and the line.
Daylight from which angle? The angle determines what you see.

Look, here's a side view. The green is the grass, the red part is the line - red for clarity.

https://i.ibb.co/JxnJWx8/VARJapan4.jpg

Balls are famously spherical (yes they are, Rugby). Which means that the part which touches the ground will obviously not be the whole diameter of the ball.
You can see that the green part to the left of the line and to the right of where the ball touches the "grass" would be visible from the right angle.
But that's not relevant. The relevant line is the blueish one I've drawn straight downwards.
That's what the top down angle shows and that's what tells you if the ball is the whole way over the line.

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Daylight from which angle? The angle determines what you see.

Look, here's a side view. The green is the grass, the red part is the line - red for clarity.

https://i.ibb.co/JxnJWx8/VARJapan4.jpg

Balls are famously spherical (yes they are, Rugby). Which means that the part which touches the ground will obviously not be the whole diameter of the ball.
You can see that the green part to the left of the line and to the right of where the ball touches the "grass" would be visible from the right angle.
But that's not relevant. The relevant line is the blueish one I've drawn straight downwards.
That's what the top down angle shows and that's what tells you if the ball is the whole way over the line.

I think you seem to believe I’m slow on the up take here

I’m not I understand precisely what’s being said, but what I’m saying is that the ball was far enough over the line that no part of the ball is adjacent to the line or straying over it. If you launched a projectile pin from the line it would miss the ball and the overlap is just how it appears from a camera angle pointing downwards.

The whole of the ball is over the whole of the line.

So thank you for that lovely diagram you’ve drawn in order to be patronising. But I understand the point being made, it’s complete nonsense anyway but beside the point, even using that principle the ball has crossed the line because if you lined up the ball at it’s furthest point and drew a direct vertical line to the ground, the point at which it arrived would be over the white line

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I think you seem to believe I’m slow on the up take here
It's the way you're coming across tbh, you keep talking about "daylight", but as I've shown you can see grass in between the ball and line from certain angles even if from the top down (which is the relevant angle) the ball is overlapping the line.


what I’m saying is that the ball was far enough over the line that no part of the ball is adjacent to the line or straying over it. If you launched a projectile pin from the line it would miss the ball and the overlap is just how it appears from a camera angle pointing downwards.
Well OK. The still I showed above appears to be from the right angle and shows some overlap. Not much, admittedly, but there doesn't have to be much.
What I can't know is whether that still shows the absolute furthest the ball went before the Japan player hooked it back.
My initial impression was certainly that it was miles over, but that first angle was deceptive. It was certainly a close call.

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Matches are on now.

Partey starts for Ghana, of course.

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South Korea 0-1 Portugal, Horta!

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was out last night so only just seen the results from yesterday

Spain :haha:

Germany :faint:

Japan :bow:

who'da thunk it??

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Awful keeping from Rochet.

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VAR review!

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Pelanty to Ghana!

Bring on Gyan!

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Oh it is saved! Terrible pel!

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What a shit penalty. :haha:

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Cleared off the line to deny Nunez!

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De Arrascaeta with the goal for Uruguay. 0-1!

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South Korea 1-1 Portugal, Ronaldo gonna claim that one?

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De Arrascaeta has his second!

Oh Ghana

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Perfect chance for revenge, instead they embarrass themselves again.

Partey coming home early is good though.

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South Korea 1-1 Portugal, Ronaldo gonna claim that one?

:haha:

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Ronaldo. :lol:

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VAR check for a Uruguay pelanty!

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Not given! :faint:

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South Korea 2-1 Portugal, holy shit!!!

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South Korea now going through on goals scored!

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Every European side is just conspiring to be shit in this tournament it feels like

As I say wake me up in two weeks Sunday when Brazil have won the thing, because no one seems to want to stop them doing so

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Dive from Cavani!

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Incredible end-to-end action.

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Ghana 0-2 Uruguay, FT! South Korea are through!

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Officials getting some serious abuse, being hounded down the tunnel by the Uruguay players. Fuck sake.

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Be glad when this tournament is over

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Cameroon: Epassy, Tolo, Wooh, Ebosse, Fai, Ngamaleu, Kunde, Anguissa, Choupo-Moting, Aboubakar, Mbuemo.
Subs: Ngapandouetnbu, Ngom, Mbekeli, Ondoua, Nkoudou, Nsame, Bassogog, Toko-Ekambi, Oum Gouet, Mbaizo, Ntcham, Marou.

Brazil: Ederson, Telles, Bremer, Militao, Alves, Fred, Fabinho, Martinelli, Rodrygo, Antony, Jesus.
Subs: Alisson, Thiago Silva, Marquinhos, Casemiro, Paqueta, Richarlison, Raphinha, Weverton, Guimaraes, Vinicius, Everton, Pedro.

Brazil's best starting XI of the tournament. :bow:

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Serbia: V Milinković-Savić, Pavlovic, Milenkovic, Veljkovic, Mitrovic, Tadic, Zivkovic, Lukic, Kostic, Vlahovic, S Milinković-Savić
Subs: Dmitrovic, Erakovic, Maksimovic, Radonjic, Gudelj, Jovic, Rajkovic, Mitrovic, Babic, Racic, Djuricic, Lazovic, Ilic, Mladenovic, Grujic

Switzerland: Kobel, Widmer, Akanji, Embolo, Freuler, Xhaka, Rodriguez, Sow, Vargas, Schar, Shaqiri.
Subs: Fernandes, Zakaria, Seferovic, Stefeen, Omlin, Aebischer, Fassnacht, Comert, Okafor, Frei, Rieder, Jashari.

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Serbia hit the post!

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Martinelli header saved!

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Serbia 0-1 Switzerland, Shaqiri!!

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Serbia 1-1 Switzeland, Mitrovic!