Good Bye RVP!

[gooners]

Yes because he's really likely to say "I didn't want RVP to be sold! Podolski and giroud wont be good enough to replace him, WHAT LE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW??!!!"

isn't he :coffee:

whatever makes you sleep...

[jelgoon]

Youre right. Wenger is talking shit as usual. Last week he said that he still wanted to keep RVP and has said endlessly that he did not buy Podolksi or Giroud to replace him. If its true that RVP said that he was coming round to the idea of staying, then its disgusting that we sold him anyway. Wenger and the board are full of shit - I have no respect for them at all.


Because it was more than just about money! Reports in this thread by the very people bashing him claim he was encouraged by the signings made so far and was coming around --- but was sold anyway! You can look back a few pages. Wasn't that the crust of that statement he is being lambasted with? But AFC as usual has shown where their priorities lie. Money first!

[jelgoon]

No it isnt like you describe. WENGER SAID LAST WEEK THAT HE STILL WANTED RVP TO STAY. If RVP then said he was considering staying, then why did Wenger sell him. Either hes a liar or the board dont give a shit what Wenger says

The thing is, it's kinda like your GF saying that shes leaving you because she reckons your not earning enough money and basically disses you to all her friends...you then get a promotion and really start getting yourself together, the bitch then calls you talking about how she has seen what your doing and she's willing to stick around...Like really? Get the fuck out of my face bitch...:lol:

[GP]

No it isnt like you describe. WENGER SAID LAST WEEK THAT HE STILL WANTED RVP TO STAY

Of course he did. When you're negotiating a sale you don't make it public you want rid.

Duh.

[Power n Glory]

The thing is, it's kinda like your GF saying that shes leaving you because she reckons your not earning enough money and basically disses you to all her friends...you then get a promotion and really start getting yourself together, the bitch then calls you talking about how she has seen what your doing and she's willing to stick around...Like really? Get the fuck out of my face bitch...:lol:

Nobody here, in this current climate, would stay 'loyal' to a company that openly pays less than the going rate to its employers yet posts year upon year profit increases and is one of the richest companies in the world. Couple that with the fact that the company also likes to cut corners to keep costs low, lays of staff for financial gain while paying massive bonuses to bosses and shareholders while the workers get less than what their counterparts earn at rival companies.

If we continue on with this policy, we'll continue to leak players. It's been going on the far too long and the kids that started with us during the Invincible years are no more loyal than the seniors that left before them. We're running into the same sort of issues we had with Paddy, Cole and Henry. I actually think RVP has been more professional in how he's gone about things compared to the former three. In fact, with Cole, it was a massive bust up but he still signed a new deal, we kept him in the team and he continued to play for us. We sold him after the bust up. I hope this is the last time we have this sort of summer but I doubt it.

[jelgoon]

I dont agree. If a manager has agreed that someone is to be sold he makes it clear that he would not oppose a sale. Wenger went out of his way to say that he wanted to keep him which turns out to be bollocks.
Of course he did. When you're negotiating a sale you don't make it public you want rid.

Duh.

[Power n Glory]

Of course he did. When you're negotiating a sale you don't make it public you want rid.

Duh.

Then why did we won't to get rid of him?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Oh, so now it is not because he is greedy? or he was agitating for a move? It was because he made his views public?

Didn't you just refer to PHW's public comment about him while the club conveniently had a gagging order slapped on him? AFC couldn't tak it however when he RVP vented in public? The irony and desperation!
Ok, I'll ignore the first part as I've never said that he was greedy.

Yes, he tried to start the ball rolling on his transfer by releasing his statement.

The gagging order was for RVP's and the clubs benefit.

PHW is a cock, but he was right in what he said, that we couldn't offer silly money to keep him, which we couldn't.

[notwist]

Fourth richest club in the world, but by far and away the richest feeder club in the world.

I can hear Wenger already: Fourth is like a trophy.

Forget the "like" - fourth is the only trophy those parsimonious old farts are interested in.

[GP]

I dont agree. If a manager has agreed that someone is to be sold he makes it clear that he would not oppose a sale.

And weaken his bargaining position?

Think about it ffs

[GP]

Then why did we won't to get rid of him?

Serious? Because this has been answered over and over.

[notwist]

To anybody here who wouldn't change employer for twice the salary, call yourself "loyal" or "a prat" or whatever. To the rest, stfu about loyalty.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Then why did we won't to get rid of him?

Because he fucked wenger off with his statement.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before.

Everyone has their breaking point, wenger has been weak in too many summers with our players wanting to leave.

Maybe he's just had enough and RVP was the breaking point.

[Syn]

To anybody here who wouldn't change employer for twice the salary, call yourself "loyal" or "a prat" or whatever. To the rest, stfu about loyalty.

It's not comparable.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I dont agree. If a manager has agreed that someone is to be sold he makes it clear that he would not oppose a sale. Wenger went out of his way to say that he wanted to keep him which turns out to be bollocks.

There is no way we would have got £24m if wenger admitted that.

[Letters]

It's not comparable.
Isn't it? I don't think it's that different to a 'real' job.

[Power n Glory]

Because he fucked wenger off with his statement.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before.

Everyone has their breaking point, wenger has been weak in too many summers with our players wanting to leave.

Maybe he's just had enough and RVP was the breaking point.

It wasn't the statement.

If he were that hacked off about it and wanted him go, we would have at least listened to Juve and accepted a much lower bid. Why sell him to United and then talk as if we were forced into a corner? United were the only club that met our valuation and we accepted. It was the money and if every club came in with bids below £10m, we'd have probably worked out a compromise. This was business as usual and nothing to do with being hacked off. Again, think about what Wenger said earlier in the season about whether or not RVP would be worth a massive wage increase.

[Power n Glory]

Isn't it? I don't think it's that different to a 'real' job.

Because it's not that different and it's pretty simple. If your company is making billions each year but cutting corners with staff and paying below the going rate, you wouldn't stay.

[Letters]

What makes it different is that it's the difference between £100k a WEEK and £200k a WEEK.
How much sodding money do you need?! But humans are, by nature, greedy and if you know you could double your salary by moving jobs then most people would even if their first salary was ridiculous.
Secondly, in my job I don't have hundreds of thousands of people idolising me. But hey, if I did and I knew that at the other job I'd have hundreds of thousands of other people idolising me then maybe I wouldn't care that much that the first hundreds of thousands of people would now boo the shit out of me.

It's a shame though, he could have been an Arsenal legend now he's just another player who came and went when a big enough cheque was waved at them.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Juve pulled out because they weren't able to match out asking price. RVP also was reported to not want to go there due to the troubles with the coach.

Why should we just accept whatever pittance we get offered?

If they did that then everyone would be moaning that we got shafted on the fee, just like last summer with cesc.

The BBC reported that he was coming round to the idea of staying, but after he released his statement wenger didn't want him to stay, so he told him before the cologne game that he didn't feature in his plans and would be sold if his fee was met.

Utd met the fee and that was the only club the RVP wanted to go to.

[Power n Glory]

Okay, so you'd be happy if a guy with the same job title as you, same experience, same age...maybe younger, earned double of what you earned? You're living comfortable on what you earn but wouldn't it tick you off that some guy right next to you is earning double and you do the same role? Why has the company placed such a low value on what you do?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Okay, so you'd be happy if a guy with the same job title as you, same experience, same age...maybe younger, earned double of what you earned? You're living comfortable on what you earn but wouldn't it tick you off that some guy right next to you is earning double and you do the same role? Why has the company placed such a low value on what you do?

RVP was the highest paid player at arsenal though wasn't he.

[Power n Glory]

Juve pulled out because they weren't able to match out asking price. RVP also was reported to not want to go there due to the troubles with the coach.

Why should we just accept whatever pittance we get offered?

If they did that then everyone would be moaning that we got shafted on the fee, just like last summer with cesc.

The BBC reported that he was coming round to the idea of staying, but after he released his statement wenger didn't want him to stay, so he told him before the cologne game that he didn't feature in his plans and would be sold if his fee was met.

Utd met the fee and that was the only club the RVP wanted to go to.

Where there you go. It was about money and that took priority over the statement or any 'insult'. If it wasn't about the money we wouldn't have sold him to our nearest rivals.

[GP]

Juve pulled out because they weren't able to match out asking price. RVP also was reported to not want to go there due to the troubles with the coach.

Why should we just accept whatever pittance we get offered?

If they did that then everyone would be moaning that we got shafted on the fee, just like last summer with cesc.

The BBC reported that he was coming round to the idea of staying, but after he released his statement wenger didn't want him to stay, so he told him before the cologne game that he didn't feature in his plans and would be sold if his fee was met.

Utd met the fee and that was the only club the RVP wanted to go to.

Yep. The statement sealed his fate. Without it he would still be here.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We had no problems keeping vieira though. Did we?

Here is Wenger: "We already recruited to replace him," claimed Wenger on French TV station TF1. "We have already recruited since we bought Giroud and Podolski, who originally were intended to offset the departure of Van Persie."

When was podolski signed? Tells you all you need to know!

podolski was signed in march, giroud in june, statement in july. those are facts we have. you ahve no idea when the club knew about the statement, either on the day or months before. so with those facts because they are all we have, they werent bought to replace rvp

[KSE Comedy Club]

http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/index.php/news/2600/30/Van-Persie-s-amazing-Arsenal-demands


To stay at Arsenal, Captain Robin wanted bigger wages than Yaya Toure !

Yaya is on 240K ! Incredible.

King Robin wanted to leave so much, apparently, that he made crazy demands.

Impossible demands.

He demanded a £5m loyalty bonus, plus £13m a year, a new right back, a new centreback, and his own Dutch physio shipped in to work with him full-time, paid for by the club!

He wanted £250,000 a week, more than Manchester United are playing him.

I reckon Van Persie will struggle to adapt up there.

Glad he's gone before the Sunderland game.

When Gary Jacob told me almost 8 weeks ago that agent Kees Vos had agreed a contract for Robin van Persie with Man United, I believed it immediately.

Gary's reliable, knows what's going on and what's*not going on.

It was one of those emails that you don't forget and and it arrived about*6.30pm on the Saturday before Italy played England in Kiev*:

RVP: I am hearing that man u have agreed a contract with him.

Have to admit that my reaction contained Anglo-Saxon*expletives and blasphemy.

But I really hoped the saga wouldn’t last till September 1st.

It hasn’t.

For this relief, much thanks.


:whistle:

[Ollie the Optimist]

so graham hunter has just done an interview where he says this
RVP told CESC last summer 'Happy to be captain but 1 more year of no trophies and I'm off'. Spoke with Man Utd since Jan"

http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback/22/thursday/3/?uniqueID=405786 link for it.



so he whored himself out without our permission etc. kind of shows what a **** he is and that wenger and the board are blameless

[GP]

http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/index.php/news/2600/30/Van-Persie-s-amazing-Arsenal-demands



:whistle:

:lol:

[Power n Glory]

RVP was the highest paid player at arsenal though wasn't he.

On £90k a week I think. Or was it £70k? Cesc and Henry earned more than him while they were here and then we have the issue with his counterparts at rival clubs. They earn double and none of them were PFA players last year either. Would you stay on £90k a week and you're approaching 30 when a rival club that can actually win something and won't sell off key players every year are offering to double your wages?

[Syn]

Isn't it? I don't think it's that different to a 'real' job.

It's very different. Ultimately whether moving for a pay rise is 'worth it' is dependent on preferences and there's no right answer. But the factors, and what you value, going for a payrise at £40k a year compared to £80k a week is likely to be far more favourable in an ethical sense. It all comes down to the marginal value of expenditure - obviously footballers would have a completely different reference point about an 'acceptable' lifestyle. But even taking that into account, for the large amount of money we are talking about, we reach a point where you can spend as much as you want, but the return on that money begins to slow because there's only so much you can't afford.

[Ollie the Optimist]

On £90k a week I think. Or was it £70k? Cesc and Henry earned more than him while they were here and then we have the issue with his counterparts at rival clubs. They earn double and none of them were PFA players last year either. Would you stay on £90k a week and you're approaching 30 when a rival club that can actually win something and won't sell off key players every year are offering to double your wages?

if you spend 7 years telling the world you are an arsenal fan, release pictures of you as a kid wearing the kit and then again this year a loyal fucking fan would pay his team to play, he would stay for 90k.

[Power n Glory]

so graham hunter has just done an interview where he says this

http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback/22/thursday/3/?uniqueID=405786 link for it.



so he whored himself out without our permission etc. kind of shows what a **** he is and that wenger and the board are blameless

What do you think was said after we sold Cesc, Clichy and Nasri in one window? Nobody was happy and we knew this was on the cards. The burden was on the club to prove that we're a club capable of challenging for the title so they're not blameless.

[Newguy]

Maybe Wenger wanted to keep him, but could also see that he club doesnt crumble without him and he could get replacements in.

Lets not be niave...You know as a manager if one of your players will sign or not. Wenger is going to say we want to keep him to keep his stock as high as possible due to the statement from RvC knocked off 5-10 million that a foreign club would have paid (in this scenario the club knew he wouldnt sign but didnt think he would release such a statement)

In that scenario we may have wanted to sell him..bottom line is he's gone..it crazy to suggest that wages werent discussed because then RvP released a statement for no reason whatsoever as surely Podolski and Giroud are signs that we are trying to strengthen. It actually makes it more strange why the statement was brought out. Did we tell him that we were not signing any players (lie to him) to get him to release the statement then sign players afterwards to make him look silly???? Sounds a bit far fetched to me. Did he not rate the players we said we were bringing in? Sounds more likely especially as the statement was released after the 2 signings were made (I think).

During those talks before the signings and the statement I think we didnt want to (not couldnt afford) to pay 200k a week for a player coming off one good season and 7 injury plagued ones. Is he worth 200k for 4 yrs to us?? Not in my opinion, not after what i saw at the euros, but thats just me.

If Wenger bought Podolski and Giroud to replace RvC then it' becasue RvC wasnt going to sign...the statement regardless of what anyone thinks would piss off any club and I get the feeling Wenger thought fuck it if we get 20+ we'll sell you.

To say the statement means nothing is folly, he should have said nothing...I would have then been able to give him the same benefit of the doubt you are now...but I dont even care that much because he aint even an Arsenal player anymore...fuck it..i watched how we played with Cazorla, Podolski, Theo, Chamberlain and Giroud and we looked pretty capable. I saw how RvC looked when he came on and we looked pretty basic, an RvC like that would have been no good to us had we forced him to see out his contract and having to sell him to Juve for 12m because the punk releases a statement aint happening either because regardless of if we want him or not, he's worth more than that and we have to get the most for him.

[V-Pig]

There were lots of (genuinely) ITK posters on Twitter saying that once bonuses etc. were taken into account, RVP was paid a lot more than most people think.

[Ollie the Optimist]

What do you think was said after we sold Cesc, Clichy and Nasri in one window? Nobody was happy and we knew this was on the cards. The burden was on the club to prove that we're a club capable of challenging for the title so they're not blameless.

so its fine for our club captain to talk to our rivals when under contract with us to get himself a deal? ok then

[Power n Glory]

if you spend 7 years telling the world you are an arsenal fan, release pictures of you as a kid wearing the kit and then again this year a loyal fucking fan would pay his team to play, he would stay for 90k.

:lol: Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

[Letters]

It's very different. Ultimately whether moving for a pay rise is 'worth it' is dependent on preferences and there's no right answer. But the factors, and what you value, going for a payrise at £40k a year compared to £80k a week is likely to be far more favourable in an ethical sense. It all comes down to the marginal value of expenditure - obviously footballers would have a completely different reference point about an 'acceptable' lifestyle. But even taking that into account, for the large amount of money we are talking about, we reach a point where you can spend as much as you want, but the return on that money begins to slow because there's only so much you can't afford.
I get all that and don't entirely disagree, it's not going to make any difference to his lifestyle. But isn't there a principle of 'market rate' and feeling valued? And, frankly, he's gone to a club with far greater prospects of trophies than we have. For him it's not a bad move.

There are of course issues of loyalty to an employer who has stuck by him through persistent injury problems. I can't decide how big a part that should play in his decision. Would we show loyalty to a company who has given us the training/experience which has allowed us to get a better job?

[V-Pig]

:lol: Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

Don't equate £3.50 an hour to £90k a week. That's perverse.

[Ollie the Optimist]

:lol: Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

yes i would but thats me. as an arsenal fan i would give anything to play for htem, thats what van persie told us he was yet he decided to fuck us over. for 90k a week, any arsenal fan would play and not move imo, if they do move out of choice for more money and ot a rival then they are not a fan

[Letters]

:lol: Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?That's not really a valid comparison. When you're on £100k a week (or thereabouts) a pay rise isn't going to change your quality of life.

[fakeyank]

FFS you c*nts!! RVP has left.. he is history. Did he leave for money, SAF's ass or Rooneys wife doesnt matter now! We got good players in this transfer window and if we make at least one more signing of the caliber of Giroud, Podolski, I think we have done very well!

After a long time, I think AW has got his cojones back and with Steve Bould as back up, I am optimistic about the season. Not saying we will win or even challenge but at least we have the ground work this season, unlike last season. Let's get behind the team rather than try to find out what RVP implied in his previous statement or how board is getting richer. RVP is not part of Arsenal and he is a c*nt.. end of! I hope he fucking contracts bird flu and shits on Fletcher, while Fletcher is shitting!

C'mon Arsenal! :scarf:

[Power n Glory]

Don't equate £3.50 an hour to £90k a week. That's perverse.

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally. It's a bit nebulous because I wouldn't have a predisposed attachment with a company like I do for Arsenal.

[Ollie the Optimist]

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

so you as an arsenal fan, played for them now, and united offered you double the wages, would you go?

[GP]

That's not really a valid comparison. When you're on £100k a week (or thereabouts) a pay rise isn't going to change your quality of life.

It's a choice between a squillion pounds and a squillion and one pounds.

[gooners]

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally. It's a bit nebulous because I wouldn't have a predisposed attachment with a company like I do for Arsenal.

like more chance of winning a trophy? :wink:

[Letters]

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally.
Sure. Although I think RvP has to be fair. They're offering him more money but they're also offering him greater prospects for success.

[Letters]

It's a choice between a squillion pounds and a squillion and one pounds.
I'll have a squillion and one

:patrice:

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/simpsons-money-fight.gif

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally. It's a bit nebulous because I wouldn't have a predisposed attachment with a company like I do for Arsenal.

it might sound a stupid question but in my mind it isnt because of the picture van persie has painted of himself as the arsenal fan for life, the pictures of his bedroom and him in the kit, just like all of us when we were that age that in my mind its a relevant point.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

like more chance of winning a trophy? :wink:

I'm so sick of the obsession with trophies in truth. I mean I know trophies are important in football and of course I want Arsenal to win them but it seems to be something that overrides anything else a player should consider (save for money).

[V-Pig]

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

Yeah but if you're on £90k a week, you're already on rockstar wages which are more than you can spend anyway. If you're on £3.50 you're living in poverty. It's not a valid comparison. If Arsenal were paying me £90k a week, I wouldn't leave. If they were paying me £3.50 an hour, I'd have to or else I couldn't afford to live.

Anyway, as I said, some reliable sources seem to suggest he was on a lot more than the basic wage once bonuses and add-ons were taken into account. Can't find the source yet but am looking. Anyway, that's irrelevant. Everyone's said it's not money-motivated and if it were surely Man City is the option. It's got to be about winning titles whilst retaining credibility. No one at Man City has any, of course. Plus Sky Blue is a properly shit color. Hence Utd.

[Power n Glory]

That's not really a valid comparison. When you're on £100k a week (or thereabouts) a pay rise isn't going to change your quality of life.

It's not about quality of life. It's about your value. Nobody here would accept a job paying less than minimum wage, nobody here would be happy if your being paid the least compared to your colleagues or counterparts even if your happy as larry on that original wage. You'd have to question why you're not worth the same as the rest of your peers. We can go around in circles all day with this one but I'm off to bed cause a lot of you are lying to yourself or just foolish and I won't entertain such talk. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sure. Although I think RvP has to be fair. They're offering him more money but they're also offering him greater prospects for success.

Well that's the thing, my definition of 'success' might differ, to his.

[Letters]

I'm so sick of the obsession with trophies in truth. I mean I know trophies are important in football and of course I want Arsenal to win them but it seems to be something that overrides anything else a player should consider.Not sure about that but it would be another factor, wouldn't it?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not sure about that but it would be another factor, wouldn't it?

Who for? If it's me and I was at Arsenal and I still have exactly the same personality that I do now, then no, it wouldn't.

[Ollie the Optimist]

It's not about quality of life. It's about your value. Nobody here would accept a job paying less than minimum wage, nobody here would be happy if your being paid the least compared to your colleagues or counterparts even if your happy as larry on that original wage. You'd have to question why you're not worth the same as the rest of your peers. We can go around in circles all day with this one but I'm off to bed cause a lot of you are lying to yourself or just foolish and I won't entertain such talk. :lol:

actually thats bollocks, ive worked on jobs where i get paid fuck all but i love it and carry on, i didnt give a fuck who got more money then me because i enjoyed it. if you are on 90k a week and happy then who the fuck cares if someone else has more money. if i was at the club i supported as a child on 90k a week i would be fucking delighting and not give a fuck about the others

[Letters]

Who for? If it's me and I was at Arsenal and I still have exactly the same personality that I do now, then no, it wouldn't.
OK, but you're an Arsenal fan. RvP may have been one when he was a kid but I doubt he was obsessed with Arsenal as most English fans are. In that sense you can't compare yourself with him and his decision.

[gooners]

I'm so sick of the obsession with trophies in truth. I mean I know trophies are important in football and of course I want Arsenal to win them but it seems to be something that overrides anything else a player should consider.

well, you could be robbie savage and have your tag on bbc one saying 'made 600 premier league appearances'; while stting next to keane who has ridiculous superlatives in his tag.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

well, you could be robbie savage and have your tag on bbc one saying 'made 600 premier league appearances'; while stting next to keane who has ridiculous superlatives in his tag.

Well I wouldn't be happy sitting next to him because he is a psycho, not because of what he has won!

[Power n Glory]

I'd take more in to consideration than just the wages, personally. It's a bit nebulous because I wouldn't have a predisposed attachment with a company like I do for Arsenal.

So you'd accept PHW, Stan and co making massive profits, lapping up the bonuses and doing very little to invest in the squad while you're earning less than your counterparts and not winning silverware? I think that would start to take it's toll on any man.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

OK, but you're an Arsenal fan. RvP may have been one when he was a kid but I doubt he was obsessed with Arsenal as most English fans are. In that sense you can't compare yourself with him and his decision.

Indeed, I am but the scenario PnG put out towards us, was as people - therefore we can only answer it as the people we are; that happens to be Arsenal supporters. Nothing to do with RVP specifically, it was just about doubling money.

[Power n Glory]

actually thats bollocks, ive worked on jobs where i get paid fuck all but i love it and carry on, i didnt give a fuck who got more money then me because i enjoyed it. if you are on 90k a week and happy then who the fuck cares if someone else has more money. if i was at the club i supported as a child on 90k a week i would be fucking delighting and not give a fuck about the others

Then you are very foolish. :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

well, you could be robbie savage and have your tag on bbc one saying 'made 600 premier league appearances'; while stting next to keane who has ridiculous superlatives in his tag.


i would argue that a player who plays for a relegation battle club, who comes up from championship and stays up in their first season will ahve more pride in taht and no trophy then a player like nasri who sits on the bench while a billionaires penis extension buy the league and has a trophy while doing fuck all

[gooners]

Well I wouldn't be happy sitting next to him because he is a psycho, not because of what he has won!

:lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Then you are very foolish. :lol:

why? i enjoy my job, i make enough to live on, and i go to work with a smile, means more to me then going to a job for oduble my money but hating it

[Cripps_orig]

Has he passed his medical?

:pray:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So you'd accept PHW, Stan and co making massive profits, lapping up the bonuses and doing very little to invest in the squad while you're earning less than your counterparts and not winning silverware? I think that would start to take it's toll on any man.

I'm not competitive about money so no, I don't think it would make much difference to me. I'd be an Arsenal supporter, at Arsenal. Is it dewy-eyed, is it sentimental? Of course it is but the reason very few take that idea seriously now is because of the cynicism that is so pervading in football.

[Syn]

I get all that and don't entirely disagree, it's not going to make any difference to his lifestyle. But isn't there a principle of 'market rate' and feeling valued? And, frankly, he's gone to a club with far greater prospects of trophies than we have. For him it's not a bad move.

There are of course issues of loyalty to an employer who has stuck by him through persistent injury problems. I can't decide how big a part that should play in his decision. Would we show loyalty to a company who has given us the training/experience which has allowed us to get a better job?

We can't answer that. I was just saying that a 'normal' person moving when another employer doubles your salary would normally have greater reason for doing so born out of economic necessity. If you are better placed financially, you *should*, in theory, also be better placed to take ethical considerations into account of the type you talk about - loyalty. But of course the extent to value one thing over the other (and what you value in the first place) is down to your own preferences.

He must be intelligent enough to know that the fact that we can't match the highest offers is not because we don't value him. If he is the highest earner in a team that was 3rd in the league and now has added 3 international quality players, it has to show we do value him. I do also think that the club might not have offered him right to the limit of what we can afford because of his age - the club appear to be quite anxious about giving big money contracts to players approach 30 because the decline they face. I don't think that's supposed to be an insult, as some might think. Contracts are handed out based on how a player is expected to perform. If over the 4 years, you expect 2 years at the highest level and then a gradual decline, you would take that into account.

About loyalty, while I don't buy the 'he only had a good 18 months' talk, I do think he might've been paid more than he contributed throughout his career (even if it wasn't directly his fault or ours). I also think he received more support than others - many of us were calling for him to be sold 2 seasons back but Wenger and the club always believed in him and he ended up becoming one of the best (if not the best) striker in the world. With the squad at the level it is now (if Van Persie had stayed), I think we would've had an excellent chance of progressing. He must know that. Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski appear to be top signings. As always, we're looking for a bit more patience but since the money in the game started spiralling out of control, it's becoming more and more difficult to 'buy' that patience.

[KSE Comedy Club]

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

The thing is doubling his money elsewhere wasn't his only option.

He could have carried on doing the same job at arsenal but for more money. Ok not the same double your money offer, but more money all the same.

[gooners]

i would argue that a player who plays for a relegation battle club, who comes up from championship and stays up in their first season will ahve more pride in taht and no trophy then a player like nasri who sits on the bench while a billionaires penis extension buy the league and has a trophy while doing fuck all

We can write off most of the world stars then --- actually all of them.

[Letters]

Then you are very foolish. :lol:
Not really. I could earn more in the private sector in the job I do but I like the people I work with, like the laid back atmosphere and I'm comfortable enough financially. Yeah, you can always have more money but if you're on footballer wages that's not an issue. There are issues of feeling valued and 'market rate' but what the hell does that mean any more with clubs like Chelsea and City around who don't operate in the real world anyway? The prospect of trophies is a factor too of course.

[Newguy]

No because we're now saying any fan would pay to play for the club they loved. I beg to differ. It's all hypothetical and if anyone here got a job offer to double their wages but doing the same job for an even bigger company, you'd jump ship.

Its different in football.

Now if I could leave my current job for a job offering to double my salary knowing that although the increase in expectations on me due to the salary increase, wouldnt effect my position as I was under "contract" and regardless of my performance I wouldnt get sacked becasue I have a "contract" for 4 years, and if in the likelihood they did want me gone, but I'd also have the luxury of my current employers arranging meetings with rival companies to get me into another "contract"....I'd move to whoever was paying the most too, however in the real world of real work that doesnt happen.

So yeah, it's different.

Bottom line is though...he's gone and I love seeing new players of quality at the club and I think we have brought 3 players (from what I have seen) of quality. Yes we have lost RvC but he wasnt motivated to stay and if these reports coming through now that he said to Cesc he was off and had been talking to Man U from Jan then I think that wraps it up...we can close this thread, but even if it isnt true, we got a game on Saturday and I'm feeling to buy a the new top because I dont support RvC and I dont feel for him in anyway...Im not trying to understand his turmoil of feeling he should be getting paid what the best in the world should be getting paid by his current club that, out of 8 season, had only had 1 decent return.

Again in my world If I underperformed for 7 years and my employers stuck with me (which they wouldnt) and continued to renew my "contract" thus keeping me secure (which they wouldnt) and in my 8th year I finally lived up to the potential my employees believed I had and theyd double my wages I'd be laughing, but there is no way they'd do that. They'd say if you can get it elsewhere then so be it, but that new company may not show the faith we had in you allowing you to under perform while not sacking you...and I'd understand their stance and i'd possibly take less for more security.

It's different in football

[Power n Glory]

Not really. I could earn more in the private sector in the job I do but I like the people I work with, like the laid back atmosphere and I'm comfortable enough financially. Yeah, you can always have more money but if you're on footballer wages that's not an issue. There are issues of feeling valued and 'market rate' but what the hell does that mean any more with clubs like Chelsea and City around who don't operate in the real world anyway? The prospect of trophies is a factor too of course.

Your comfortable and happy. RVP and many other players aren't. It's not a happy environment, so why put up with it? If you're company flat at refused to invest in computers and insisted on using out of date software and hardware, wouldn't that grind your gears? Wouldn't it piss you off on a daily if you keep missing deadlines and targets because of this problem, you voice it every meeting, colleagues say the same as well but the management staff do nothing to resolve the issue? This is where we are with Arsenal. The new kids on the block are happy as larry to be here but if we have the same problems in 10 years time, we'll see the same sort of turnover.

[Newguy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2189521/Jack-Wilshere-Arsenals-new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

[Syn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2189521/Jack-Wilshere-Arsenals-new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

If you were an ITK like me you would've known that hours ago.

To-morrow, Wenger has called a press-conference ahead of the game against Sunderland.

More ITK news coming soon.

[Power n Glory]

Its different in football.

Now if I could leave my current job for a job offering to double my salary knowing that although the increase in expectations on me due to the salary increase, wouldnt effect my position as I was under "contract" and regardless of my performance I wouldnt get sacked becasue I have a "contract" for 4 years, and if in the likelihood they did want me gone, but I'd also have the luxury of my current employers arranging meetings with rival companies to get me into another "contract"....I'd move to whoever was paying the most too, however in the real world of real work that doesnt happen.

So yeah, it's different.

Bottom line is though...he's gone and I love seeing new players of quality at the club and I think we have brought 3 players (from what I have seen) of quality. Yes we have lost RvC but he wasnt motivated to stay and if these reports coming through now that he said to Cesc he was off and had been talking to Man U from Jan then I think that wraps it up...we can close this thread, but even if it isnt true, we got a game on Saturday and I'm feeling to buy a the new top because I dont support RvC and I dont feel for him in anyway...Im not trying to understand his turmoil of feeling he should be getting paid what the best in the world should be getting paid by his current club that, out of 8 season, had only had 1 decent return.

Again in my world If I underperformed for 7 years and my employers stuck with me (which they wouldnt) and continued to renew my "contract" thus keeping me secure (which they wouldnt) and in my 8th year I finally lived up to the potential my employees believed I had and theyd double my wages I'd be laughing, but there is no way they'd do that. They'd say if you can get it elsewhere then so be it, but that new company may not show the faith we had in you allowing you to under perform while not sacking you...and I'd understand their stance and i'd possibly take less for more security.

It's different in football

Football's different but we're all human. Everyone on here has come on at some point to express complete frustration at the lack of ambition this club has shown. The players are frustrated as well. Regardless of who it is, Cesc, RVP, Ade, Henry...it's the same story because the club hasn't changed hasn't changed their policy. 7 years running and we're discussing the same problems. Again, I hope this is the last summer we have like this because I trend has to be broken.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger has never sold a player to United boss Alex Ferguson but, after the £24million deal was agreed, he told Eurosport’s parent station TF1: “To strengthen an enemy is the other negative point of this loss.

“We wanted to avoid it, but we couldn’t. Honestly, I’d rather sell him abroad, to Paris Saint-Germain for example.

“Manchester United know him and know his qualities. He’s really an exceptional player, believe me.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/robin-van-persie-transfer-has-strengthened-1264840

Actually, this link is better, more quotes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9481399/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-admits-he-wanted-to-sell-Robin-van-Persie-to-a-foreign-club.html

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2189521/Jack-Wilshere-Arsenals-new-No-10.html

So Wilshere gets the number 10...interesting!!

Not really considering he's six feet under.

[Syn]

Football's different but we're all human. Everyone on here has come on at some point to express complete frustration at the lack of ambition this club has shown. The players are frustrated as well. Regardless of who it is, Cesc, RVP, Ade, Henry...it's the same story because the club hasn't changed hasn't changed their policy. 7 years running and we're discussing the same problems. Again, I hope this is the last summer we have like this because I trend has to be broken.

From Van Persie's perspective, we obviously had a fighting chance to compete at the top if he had stayed. Last season he was sold short and the squad wasn't at the level we could compete. But this year could've been different if he had decided to stay. So don't buy his ambition bullshit at all.

[Marc Overmars]

He wanted to fuck off and released a disingenuous statement to try and protect his hero status. It backfired, now he's a ****. On we go.

[Power n Glory]

From Van Persie's perspective, we obviously had a fighting chance to compete at the top if he had stayed. Last season he was sold short and the squad wasn't at the level we could compete. But this year could've been different if he had decided to stay. So don't buy his ambition bullshit at all.

Well, that's the baffling part because it sounds as if we had decided to sell him early on. I keep repeating this point but it's important, Wenger said from early that he might not be worth the wage increase because of his age and we moved early on Poldoski. Also, if reports are true and we started to feel encouraged by the signings we made but we said we didn't want him....well....who knows. He wasn't encouraged by the meeting we had and saying things could be different this year, I hope so too, but the window is still open and we still could sell Song, Theo and Arshavin. That wipes out all of our regular goal scorers and providers in one season. We'll see anyway.

[Newguy]

Well, that's the baffling part because it sounds as if we had decided to sell him early on. I keep repeating this point but it's important, Wenger said from early that he might not be worth the wage increase because of his age and we moved early on Poldoski. Also, if reports are true and we started to feel encouraged by the signings we made but we said we didn't want him....well....who knows. He wasn't encouraged by the meeting we had and saying things could be different this year, I hope so too, but the window is still open and we still could sell Song, Theo and Arshavin. That wipes out all of our regular goal scorers and providers in one season. We'll see anyway.

Theo should stay, Song will get sold and we'll get in a DM reports of Mvilla being back on have surfaced...what the fuck is an "Arshavin" LOL That guy is no good to anyone, he doesnt want to stay at Arsenal...he's in the list of players I hope we sell, he past his best for us so I wouldnt worry about losing the russian.

[Marc Overmars]

Theo should stay, Song will get sold and we'll get in a DM reports of Mvilla being back on have surfaced...what the fuck is an "Arshavin" LOL That guy is no good to anyone, he doesnt want to stay at Arsenal...he's in the list of players I hope we sell, he past his best for us so I wouldnt worry about losing the russian.

Forget about staying at Arsenal, I'm not even sure Arshavin wants to play football. The freak.

[jelgoon]

Not really. If he hadnt said anything you would have slagged him off for being silent and not letting Arsenal know what he was going to do. I happen to believe that he decided to leave cos he knew we didnt have a prayer of winning the league or CL again and he wanted a crack at those trophies. Sure he's disloyal and all that but I dont believe his motive was money
He wanted to fuck off and released a disingenuous statement to try and protect his hero status. It backfired, now he's a ****. On we go.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Reports on twitter are that theo will or has signed a new contract.

[jelgoon]

I thought Arshavin had been sold or is about to be. Read it a couple of days ago but cant remember what club wants him
Forget about staying at Arsenal, I'm not even sure Arshavin wants to play football. The freak.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not really. If he hadnt said anything you would have slagged him off for being silent and not letting Arsenal know what he was going to do. I happen to believe that he decided to leave cos he knew we didnt have a prayer of winning the league or CL again and he wanted a crack at those trophies. Sure he's disloyal and all that but I dont believe his motive was money

No one would have slagged him off for keeping quiet.

If he doesn't think we can win the league then fuck him. The rest of the team do.

[Newguy]

http://www.theshortfuse.com/2012/8/15/3245633/robin-van-persie-transfer-arsenal-manchester-united-arsene-wenger?

This made me laugh

[jelgoon]

Yeh I think he'll stay - he's still young.


Reports on twitter are that theo will or has signed a new contract.

[Syn]

Well, that's the baffling part because it sounds as if we had decided to sell him early on. I keep repeating this point but it's important, Wenger said from early that he might not be worth the wage increase because of his age and we moved early on Poldoski. Also, if reports are true and we started to feel encouraged by the signings we made but we said we didn't want him....well....who knows. He wasn't encouraged by the meeting we had and saying things could be different this year, I hope so too, but the window is still open and we still could sell Song, Theo and Arshavin. That wipes out all of our regular goal scorers and providers in one season. We'll see anyway.

The bottom line is - if Van Persie turned around and accepted his contract offer or even just decided to see out his contract, there wouldn't have been anyone stopping him. Of course we may have bought Giroud, in particular, because we thought he was going to leave, but he could've turned around and nobody would've taken that contract offer off the table. If we did, he could've gone to the press and made a big deal that the club won't give him a new contract - as to not look the villain. The season starts in less than 48 hours and there's no doubt, with Van Persie in the Arsenal team, we have a squad of players that is capable of competing well. You can't guarantee success - it's up to the players and the manager to earn it. But we would've had a fighting chance.

About further sales, I don't happen to think Song or Arshavin would be as big a miss as you might. Our squad quality (+ Van Persie) would still be very high. Losing Theo would be a big blow but by all accounts he's very happy to be here so I can see him staying. Song, as well - unless a replacement's lined up, I don't think we'll sell.

So, overall, yeah - I felt sorry for Van Persie last year that he deserved to be playing with better players. We were always that 2 or 3 top players away but this summer we've tried to (whether for the right reasons or not) change that. But this season he had that chance to play with better players and compete for trophies but he has decided to move anyway.

As I've said, the club should've held on to him anyway and you can't say he has stabbed us in the back by moving to Man Utd because we're the ones that accepted their bid. Nevertheless it does seem clear Van Persie's statement was a bunch of artificial bollocks.

[jelgoon]

Do they? Im sure they know we havent got a chance but are hoping for a miracle.Theyre not stupid

If he doesn't think we can win the league then fuck him. The rest of the team do.[/QUOTE]

[Marc Overmars]

Not really. If he hadnt said anything you would have slagged him off for being silent and not letting Arsenal know what he was going to do. I happen to believe that he decided to leave cos he knew we didnt have a prayer of winning the league or CL again and he wanted a crack at those trophies. Sure he's disloyal and all that but I dont believe his motive was money

No, I wouldn't have slagged him off actually. I didn't like how he snookered the club with the statement, that is where the anger stems from. I think most of us understand United are a bigger club and have greater prospects of success, but there is a way to do things and he shouldn't have disrespected the club.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Do they? Im sure they know we havent got a chance but are hoping for a miracle.Theyre not stupid

If he doesn't think we can win the league then fuck him. The rest of the team do.
Of course they do, we're the strongest we've been for years even without RVP.

Thats a silly thing to say mate.

[Grebbo]

Wenger admitted, that Van Persie would have been the first name on his teamsheet on Saturday if he was still at an Arsenal player.
“It’s sad because Van Persie played for us for eight years,” said Wenger. “He’s 29 now. It’s another bitter pill to swallow. A lot has happened before and we survived it all, but this is a real challenge because Van Persie scored 30 league goals in a year, almost one per game. It’s a tough challenge for our new forwards to replace him.

“The economic part of it is the only satisfaction. But money doesn’t go out on the field and play, players do. It will give more chance to Giroud. When Van Persie is here, his name is the first on the teamsheet and the others follow. So there’s a void to fill. It’s up to whoever wants to seize their chance.”
Of the decision to sell a player to rivals Manchester United for the first time since becoming Arsenal manager in 1996, Wenger said: “That is the other negative point that we wanted to avoid at all costs but we couldn’t. Honestly, I’d rather sell him abroad, to Paris St-Germain for example.
“Manchester United know him and know his qualities. He’s an exceptional player in the pure sense of the term.
“I haven’t seen many in my life who have that quality in the first touch, are so technically gifted and have that intelligence of movement in the final 20 metres.
“Van Persie is a great player so it’s always sad to lose such a player. But we must consider the economic reality and the will of the player. When you can’t succeed in extending the contract of a player that is in its last year, there is no other way but to let him go.”
Arsenal have scouted other strikers, notably Spain forward Fernando Llorente, but Wenger intends to give his new signings their chance to prove that they can collectively replace Van Persie.
It is also expected that Thomas Vermaelen will replace Van Persie as Arsenal captain while Mikel Arteta, who has so impressed since joining from Everton last year, is a leading candidate to become vice captain.
Having sold Van Persie, Arsenal are also facing interest in Alex Song from Barcelona. Song, though, has a contract at Arsenal until 2015, meaning any decision on whether to sell would be fully in Wenger’s hands and dependent on whether Barcelona came forward with a sufficiently large offer.
Despite competing interest from Liverpool, Arsenal still believe that it would be possible to sign Nuri Sahin on loan from Real Madrid should they want an extra central midfielder.

Quite sad really, poor old Wenger.

[Syn]

Of course they do, we're the strongest we've been for years even without RVP.

Thats a silly thing to say mate.

With RVP, we definitely are very strong.

Without...it's tricky. We'd be relying on a few 'ifs' such as Wilshere making it back alive and well, and Walcott netting 15-20.

Possible, though, but losing, for my money, the best striker in the world right now would obviously weaken any team by a fair margin.

[Grebbo]

And Wenger is pure class. He never slags off a player when they fuck him over and fuck off. Still praising RVP.

[Marc Overmars]

Of course they do, we're the strongest we've been for years even without RVP.


On paper, possibly. Need to wait until the season kicks off though before that can be justified.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I do agree but squad wise we are stronger and we can't keep thinking like rvp would replicate last season again this season.

I'll bet he scores a lot less goals this time around too.

I also think we will still add 1 or 2 more players before the window shuts.

[KSE Comedy Club]

And Wenger is pure class. He never slags off a player when they fuck him over and fuck off. Still praising RVP.

Exactly.

Regardless of what he's done wrong in the past, wenger is the epitome of class when he needs to be.

He may have been royally fucked off with Persie behind closed doors, but to the frontline he has done nothing but speak highly of him and say how sad he is to loose him.

[Syn]

Quite sad really, poor old Wenger.

I think that confirms our suspicion that Podolski is going to play out wide with Giroud up front. And that also means Cazorla will play in centre midfield. It's shaping up to bbe a recklessly attacking line-up. Should be frustrating. And fun.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4491716/Mo-Farahs-misery-at-Van-Persie-move.html

Mo :bow:

Piers :bow:

Holmes can fuck off, the ****

Although disagree about RVC being a living legend, a living **** for sure though

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/video-special-arsenal-fans-burn-1264123

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

:lol:

I do wonder why people still get a players name on the back of their shirt.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I do agree but squad wise we are stronger and we can't keep thinking like rvp would replicate last season again this season.

I'll bet he scores a lot less goals this time around too.

I also think we will still add 1 or 2 more players before the window shuts.

I agree here.
Last year saw Cesc and Nasbo, easily two of our top/creative players go.
And after a horrific start and a couple of solid additions I believe we start to play the most collectively I have seen for years. We still didnt win anything and admittedly were heavily reliant on RvPs goals but as a unit we were better.

Now we are back to square one, RvP gone and Song going but based on what I saw last year I am not as scared as what I should be, in fact I expect the team spirit to be infused by the goings on. We have brought in three quality players and it is clear that we are no longer a one man team. Even though the jury is still out on Theo, I think he is going to have a break out year.

We have the potential to give teams more than aRvP headache. . .we may be minus the goal from nowhere factor and I will miss his sass but I cant say we are going to be much weaker, people are going to have to step up though and the way we responded to adversity last year, I expect is to do just that.

Song will go and if he is acting like the tit we are hearing he is then to him goes the message 'the door is thata way >>>' - I also believe that we will bring in a couple more. . .I hope the rumours of us not giving up on Sahin are correct, possobly MVila (maybe not both) and a striker (Llorente would be great but he may be too similar in statue to Giroud?) I would not say we are 100% set on the RB/LB position, although Gibbs over Santos for me

[Xhaka Can’t]

Rather than booing etc. The whole stadium should just go deathly quiet when he get's the ball.

This.

Not only would it send out a great message, it would also possible off the hacks wanting to write about hysterical fans scorned.

But it will never happen.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I dont agree. If a manager has agreed that someone is to be sold he makes it clear that he would not oppose a sale. Wenger went out of his way to say that he wanted to keep him which turns out to be bollocks.

Play.poker much?

[Power n Glory]

Okay, Arseblog redeems itself with this piece.

http://arseblog.com/2012/08/kubler-caaaaaaant/

But Tim usually writes good columns.

[-Xs-]

Pretty livid by this really.

By selling our star player from last season to the team who finished 1 spot above us is basically an admission by the club that, like the last few seasons, finishing top of the league (or even attempting to) is not our goal this season.

[GP]

http://christwire.org/wp-content/uploads/dolan-donald-duck-weird.png

robin pls

[LDG]

Fuck him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No it isnt like you describe. WENGER SAID LAST WEEK THAT HE STILL WANTED RVP TO STAY. If RVP then said he was considering staying, then why did Wenger sell him. Either hes a liar or the board dont give a shit what Wenger says


Of course he bloddy wanted him to stay does not mean he knew he would not be sold too diffrent things.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Charlie!! :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Charlie!! :bow:

Thats right bitches im back

[LDG]

Of course he bloddy wanted him to stay does not mean he knew he would not be sold too diffrent things.

:woohoo:

Charlie's back :bow:

Charlie :bow:

The one thing that could console me from losing RVP.

Welcom back fella! :d

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:woohoo:

Charlie's back :bow:

Charlie :bow:

The one thing that could console me from losing RVP.

Welcom back fella! :d

Thank you thank you.

[GP]

Charlie! :bow:

GWs best ever poster!

[Marc Overmars]

Charlie's cousin. :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Charlie! :bow:

GWs best ever poster!


GP :bow:

Oh year whats a RCV

And yeah RVP what a **** (might as well everyone else on here has)

[Marc Overmars]

RCV. :bow:

[LDG]

Oh year whats a RCV



A Robin **** Van.

[LDG]

RCV. :bow:

YEsssssss!!!!

Love it!

:woohoo:

[selassie]

RVP is a c*nt of the highest order for going there, f*ck him.

[Marc Overmars]

He is now officially a United player.

/thread

[The Wengerbabies]

Congrats to him. Enhancing his career prospects instead of settling for mediocracy. Too many people seem to be happy with dead end jobs, Robin is not.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Good luck to him or like they say in the theatre i hope he breaks a leg.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Congrats to him. Enhancing his career prospects instead of settling for mediocracy. Too many people seem to be happy with dead end jobs, Robin is not.

You still washing lettuce?

[Letters]

You still washing lettuce?
YES! YES! FUCK Wengerbabies TOO!

[The Wengerbabies]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418395_10151032129882746_1548920071_n.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bye.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

That just looks wrong.

[LDG]

Please close this thread and rename it something ****ish.

Kthanx.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

its my thread and if you dont want to play then fine, i will take my thread home!

TBH i agree, close this damn thread!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'll just move the thread, it can be the laugh at RVP because he still hasn't won a trophy with Man Utd thread or something.

Or cry when he scores 30 goals in two games.

[Marc Overmars]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418395_10151032129882746_1548920071_n.jpg

So fucked up.

:sick:

[GP]

don't quote it ffs!

[Marc Overmars]

Sorry. I have to keep seeing it to believe it though.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So fucked up.

:sick:


DHL, funny to see him wearing that. wonder if he will get around like they do.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

RVC this twat said anything about our fans yet.

[Marc Overmars]

His press conference is at 2.

Lets see what the **** has to say for himself.

[Cripps_orig]

So its finally official then

Didnt even have to read the last few pages

I knew as soon as i saw the thread in this section

Also rumour has it DHL stands for Dick Head Loser which is apt for RVC

[Joker]

IMO he'll be a failure at Utd.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoOwSKI7M

[Marc Overmars]

https://p.twimg.com/A0fzgFNCAAAj0jD.jpg

[Xhaka Can’t]

Someone need. To give More a slap tomorrow.

Is Handy going tomorrow?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

https://p.twimg.com/A0fzgFNCAAAj0jD.jpg

Planning their 1st night to go out granny snatching together.

[Syn]

Afccamdenchancer is leaking all this shit about Ramsey and van persie nearly getting into a fight after the man city game last year. Tbf, it was a ridiculous miss. We all felt like punching Ramsey.

Normally, I'd laugh off twitter rumours but this guy tends to call them right. Got the Wilshere no.10 info yesterday before anyone else. He's probably wilshere tbf.

[Power n Glory]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/418395_10151032129882746_1548920071_n.jpg

That stings! Fuck him, fuck Wenger and all the bastards involved with this transfer!

[Marc Overmars]

I've started following this guy as well. Fuck knows if what he says is true but it makes for interesting reading anyway.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fergie:
“The boy wanted to come. He turned down various clubs. If he hadn’t told Arsenal he wanted to go to Manchester United, the transfer wouldn’t have happened.”

[GP]

So there you have it. He forcibly engineered a move there.

Can we close the thread now?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

That stings! Fuck him, fuck Wenger and all the bastards involved with this transfer!

I agree mate i agree Its horrible for this to happen.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So there you have it. He forcibly engineered a move there.

Can we close the thread now?

Pretty much the guy is a twat lets all move on now.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Says he is not angry at Arsenal and we are not angry with him. Trying not to sound like a ****.

[Marc Overmars]

"From my side and Arsenal's side, there is no hard feeling. No one is angry with me and I'm not angry with them"

Uhuh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Uhuh.

If he thinks the fans are not angry with him then he is one deluded fool.

[Cripps_orig]

Anyone got a link to what the **** has said about his move and about us in particular

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Anyone got a link to what the **** has said about his move and about us in particular



The Dutch international and current PFA Player of the Year was keen to explain his reasoning behind the controversial switch, insisting that there was no ill will between Arsenal and himself, but that he simply couldn't turn the chance down.

"From my side and Arsenal's side, there is no hard feeling. No one is angry with me and I'm not angry with them," Van Persie told reporters.

"Arsenal are part of my life. They've been great to me. We didn't agree on the future - that's life.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/pre

[Arsenal Fan]

those two pictures make my stomach churn............ouch.........

what a fucking **** i hate him fuck fuck fuck **** **** ****

[Niall_Quinn]

What an unspeakably horrible **** and yet how typical, how normal, how expected. I'd hope he gets a career ending injury on his first outing but really, do I care that much? I'm not so sure. I've been caring less and less, well before van Purse thrust the latest knife in the fans' back, past Fabregas, past the antics of Henry and back to wondering what else could be done to please the "legend" Vieira - he's the same guy who happily shits on our heads from atop a pile of Arab money. The stuff of modern day legends indeed. There are some lines that you don't cross - yet those lines have been crossed more times than I can remember and here we have the latest episode. This is the first occasion where I genuinely have zero interest in the coming season - not because our latest in a line of absconding captains has firmly established a club tradition, but because the vomit meter has finally topped the scale after years of constant rise. Rather than the gagging it's time to puke it out.

I suppose if this hadn't happened around the Olympics, when there was so much genuine sport and sportsmen and women showing how it can still be, the feelings wouldn't have extended beyond the usual brief storm followed by a lull of acceptance and distraction. That's how it will be for most, I'm sure. But not for me, not this time, these faggoty, greedy little ****s who dive around and scream and cry and bitch and moan for £100K+ a week have had their rock lifted and it's a gut churning spectacle watching them scuttling from shit pile to shit pile. To be associated with football, even as a fan, is a not a good thing these days. Washing yourself in their filth isn't entertainment, it's high ticket masochism. These cockroaches will only be eradicated when the fans stop putting food out for them. And you can be sure as hell, there's not one of these diminutive characters talented enough or with the ambition (as in the real definition rather than the cash definition) to engage and win on a level playing field. Can you imagine any of these hyped up, trumped up charlatans winning a proper medal, rather than a "we bought it with blood money" bauble? A medal for what? Diving? (minus the pool) Pursuit? (in pounds and pence rather than in the saddle) Racial abuse? (There may well be a champion within the ranks of football after all.)

So van Purse gets his cash and his PR man will talk about ambition, conveniently forgetting the fans who pay the wages have ambitions too. It's taken as read, isn't it? The needs of the few with their hands stuck out outweigh the needs of those doing the paying. That's service for you and only common sense in a mad world. I have a feeling Arsenal may well be better off in the long run. It's a sort of disinterested consideration, like taking a second to avoid stepping in shit. I have plans to be anywhere but watching football tomorrow. Why would I? What's in it for me? One decent match a year? I'm not falling for it this time.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

cant stomach myself to watch him playing in that shirt. its gonna break my fucking heart everytime i see him score for them.

absolutely devastated.

[Syn]

What an unspeakably horrible **** and yet how typical, how normal, how expected. I'd hope he gets a career ending injury on his first outing but really, do I care that much? I'm not so sure. I've been caring less and less, well before van Purse thrust the latest knife in the fans' back, past Fabregas, past the antics of Henry and back to wondering what else could be done to please the "legend" Vieira - he's the same guy who happily shits on our heads from atop a pile of Arab money. The stuff of modern day legends indeed. There are some lines that you don't cross - yet those lines have been crossed more times than I can remember and here we have the latest episode. This is the first occasion where I genuinely have zero interest in the coming season - not because our latest in a line of absconding captains has firmly established a club tradition, but because the vomit meter has finally topped the scale after years of constant rise. Rather than the gagging it's time to puke it out.

I suppose if this hadn't happened around the Olympics, when there was so much genuine sport and sportsmen and women showing how it can still be, the feelings wouldn't have extended beyond the usual brief storm followed by a lull of acceptance and distraction. That's how it will be for most, I'm sure. But not for me, not this time, these faggoty, greedy little ****s who dive around and scream and cry and bitch and moan for £100K+ a week have had their rock lifted and it's a gut churning spectacle watching them scuttling from shit pile to shit pile. To be associated with football, even as a fan, is a not a good thing these days. Washing yourself in their filth isn't entertainment, it's high ticket masochism. These cockroaches will only be eradicated when the fans stop putting food out for them. And you can be sure as hell, there's not one of these diminutive characters talented enough or with the ambition (as in the real definition rather than the cash definition) to engage and win on a level playing field. Can you imagine any of these hyped up, trumped up charlatans winning a proper medal, rather than a "we bought it with blood money" bauble? A medal for what? Diving? (minus the pool) Pursuit? (in pounds and pence rather than in the saddle) Racial abuse? (There may well be a champion within the ranks of football after all.)

So van Purse gets his cash and his PR man will talk about ambition, conveniently forgetting the fans who pay the wages have ambitions too. It's taken as read, isn't it? The needs of the few with their hands stuck out outweigh the needs of those doing the paying. That's service for you and only common sense in a mad world. I have a feeling Arsenal may well be better off in the long run. It's a sort of disinterested consideration, like taking a second to avoid stepping in shit. I have plans to be anywhere but watching football tomorrow. Why would I? What's in it for me? One decent match a year? I'm not falling for it this time.

You'll tune in. And rightly so. There's a danger we might be decent this year. (I know that's not the point you were making but you won't be able to help yourself).

[KSE Comedy Club]

What an unspeakably horrible **** and yet how typical, how normal, how expected. I'd hope he gets a career ending injury on his first outing but really, do I care that much? I'm not so sure. I've been caring less and less, well before van Purse thrust the latest knife in the fans' back, past Fabregas, past the antics of Henry and back to wondering what else could be done to please the "legend" Vieira - he's the same guy who happily shits on our heads from atop a pile of Arab money. The stuff of modern day legends indeed. There are some lines that you don't cross - yet those lines have been crossed more times than I can remember and here we have the latest episode. This is the first occasion where I genuinely have zero interest in the coming season - not because our latest in a line of absconding captains has firmly established a club tradition, but because the vomit meter has finally topped the scale after years of constant rise. Rather than the gagging it's time to puke it out.

I suppose if this hadn't happened around the Olympics, when there was so much genuine sport and sportsmen and women showing how it can still be, the feelings wouldn't have extended beyond the usual brief storm followed by a lull of acceptance and distraction. That's how it will be for most, I'm sure. But not for me, not this time, these faggoty, greedy little ****s who dive around and scream and cry and bitch and moan for £100K+ a week have had their rock lifted and it's a gut churning spectacle watching them scuttling from shit pile to shit pile. To be associated with football, even as a fan, is a not a good thing these days. Washing yourself in their filth isn't entertainment, it's high ticket masochism. These cockroaches will only be eradicated when the fans stop putting food out for them. And you can be sure as hell, there's not one of these diminutive characters talented enough or with the ambition (as in the real definition rather than the cash definition) to engage and win on a level playing field. Can you imagine any of these hyped up, trumped up charlatans winning a proper medal, rather than a "we bought it with blood money" bauble? A medal for what? Diving? (minus the pool) Pursuit? (in pounds and pence rather than in the saddle) Racial abuse? (There may well be a champion within the ranks of football after all.)

So van Purse gets his cash and his PR man will talk about ambition, conveniently forgetting the fans who pay the wages have ambitions too. It's taken as read, isn't it? The needs of the few with their hands stuck out outweigh the needs of those doing the paying. That's service for you and only common sense in a mad world. I have a feeling Arsenal may well be better off in the long run. It's a sort of disinterested consideration, like taking a second to avoid stepping in shit. I have plans to be anywhere but watching football tomorrow. Why would I? What's in it for me? One decent match a year? I'm not falling for it this time.

Welcome back NQ :wave:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

What an unspeakably horrible **** and yet how typical, how normal, how expected. I'd hope he gets a career ending injury on his first outing but really, do I care that much? I'm not so sure. I've been caring less and less, well before van Purse thrust the latest knife in the fans' back, past Fabregas, past the antics of Henry and back to wondering what else could be done to please the "legend" Vieira - he's the same guy who happily shits on our heads from atop a pile of Arab money. The stuff of modern day legends indeed. There are some lines that you don't cross - yet those lines have been crossed more times than I can remember and here we have the latest episode. This is the first occasion where I genuinely have zero interest in the coming season - not because our latest in a line of absconding captains has firmly established a club tradition, but because the vomit meter has finally topped the scale after years of constant rise. Rather than the gagging it's time to puke it out.

I suppose if this hadn't happened around the Olympics, when there was so much genuine sport and sportsmen and women showing how it can still be, the feelings wouldn't have extended beyond the usual brief storm followed by a lull of acceptance and distraction. That's how it will be for most, I'm sure. But not for me, not this time, these faggoty, greedy little ****s who dive around and scream and cry and bitch and moan for £100K+ a week have had their rock lifted and it's a gut churning spectacle watching them scuttling from shit pile to shit pile. To be associated with football, even as a fan, is a not a good thing these days. Washing yourself in their filth isn't entertainment, it's high ticket masochism. These cockroaches will only be eradicated when the fans stop putting food out for them. And you can be sure as hell, there's not one of these diminutive characters talented enough or with the ambition (as in the real definition rather than the cash definition) to engage and win on a level playing field. Can you imagine any of these hyped up, trumped up charlatans winning a proper medal, rather than a "we bought it with blood money" bauble? A medal for what? Diving? (minus the pool) Pursuit? (in pounds and pence rather than in the saddle) Racial abuse? (There may well be a champion within the ranks of football after all.)

So van Purse gets his cash and his PR man will talk about ambition, conveniently forgetting the fans who pay the wages have ambitions too. It's taken as read, isn't it? The needs of the few with their hands stuck out outweigh the needs of those doing the paying. That's service for you and only common sense in a mad world. I have a feeling Arsenal may well be better off in the long run. It's a sort of disinterested consideration, like taking a second to avoid stepping in shit. I have plans to be anywhere but watching football tomorrow. Why would I? What's in it for me? One decent match a year? I'm not falling for it this time.

NQ :bow: what a man, what a legend.

[Ollie the Optimist]

robin said today that the little kid inside of him was shouting at him to go to man united.

except this is the little kid inside of him

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jNlfVmVMMNg/UCOc69X_n9I/AAAAAAAAAHI/kaibSZZvFZY/s1600/VanPersie.jpg


but this is the one he listened to and showed his true colours

http://ahotmama.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/kid_money.jpg

[Olivier's xmas twist]

robin said today that the little kid inside of him was shouting at him to go to man united.

except this is the little kid inside of him

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jNlfVmVMMNg/UCOc69X_n9I/AAAAAAAAAHI/kaibSZZvFZY/s1600/VanPersie.jpg


but this is the one he listened to and showed his true colours

http://ahotmama.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/kid_money.jpg


Well from getting 400k a month to 1 mill a month not hard to see why he went there.

Yes im sure he went to win stuff but money was his motivation.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Well from getting 400k a month to 1 mill a month not hard to see why he went there.

Yes im sure he went to win stuff but money was his motivation.


but saying the little kid inside you was screaming for man united when you have released a picture of yourself as a little kid just shows what a mercenary **** he is imo. that little kid above wearing an arsenal shirt would never ever scream for united

[GP]

That pic is even on his official website.

Anyway, he's gone now. He's showed he's a turncoat, judas **** and doesn't deserve any more of our time.

Big 3 points to collect tomorrow.

[Cripps_orig]

Despite his disappointment at losing his captain, Arsène Wenger has hailed Robin van Persie’s professionalism during his time at the Club.

The Dutch striker completed his move to Manchester United on Friday after making it clear he would not extend his stay at Emirates Stadium.

Wenger says the sale is part of the “brutal reality” of top-level football, but says supporters should not forget Van Persie’s contribution down the years.

“I am not a specialist on time healing but there will be a frustration [among some fans] of course,” the Frenchman said. “He has played for us for eight years, you have to respect what he has done for our club, what he did last year.

“This is a situation that is a completely brutal reality of professional sport. Robin was captain of the team last year and I give him credit until the last minute of the whole season [because] he fought like mad.

“For me that is to be professional. He comes in afterwards and wants to go? I don't like it. But that is being professional again. But being professional until the last minute of his stay at the club.

“He gave 100 per cent and last year he kept us [up] there - it is a miracle we finished third. A big part of the miracle is down to him and you have to give him credit for that.”

While Wenger is “concerned” about losing players to clubs offering huge salaries, he believes the implementation of Financial Fair Play regulations means it is a short-term problem.

“It is a concern,” he admitted. “But you say we live outside of reality? No, we live in the economic reality that other clubs do not. There are some things we cannot afford to do, it is as simple as that.

“Honestly, I think it is a short-term problem - the world cannot go on like this. You cannot imagine that the world will go on just splashing money out without any return because people will get tired of that as you’ll only have a few clubs competing with each other.

“[Financial Fair Play] will make a big difference, how quickly I cannot answer because I am not responsible for putting it in place.”

Ever the professional and he must be commended for that but its obvious RVC being a judas has hurt Wenger deeply.

As for what he did for us? Thanks for last year indeed but the first 7 years? Ummmm....a goal here or there and then out for the season

RVC, go fuck yourself.

[gooners]

:haha:

[The Wengerbabies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvEANsBUv7c&feature=g-logo-xit

[Boss]

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/579903_10151034633617746_342517479_n.jpg

:whistle:

[Master Splinter]

Why have hey re-signed John O'Shea?

[LDG]

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

:haha:

Best post on here

[V-Pig]

That fucking kit. It's a picnic cloth.

Also, it looks very "Manchester". Something about it. No southerner would touch it.

Apart from the millions of Manure fans down here.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Red-Dwarf-frame-3-Quarantine.jpg

[The Wengerbabies]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/253925_272768876171217_1264000420_n.jpg

[Rors]

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Red-Dwarf-frame-3-Quarantine.jpg

"Yes."

:bow:

[V-Pig]

Love that episode. Quarantine :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Any updates for the fans yet?

[Ollie the Optimist]

http://hasrobinvanpersiescoredformanutd.com/


:lol:

[LDG]

:haha:

[LDG]

Any updates for the fans yet?

@RVC - 20/08/2012


This is a message for you guys. The fans. I'd like to thank all you guys for coming all the way from London Manchester to watch me play. You guys are the reason I will give 100% for you guys. I think you guys should know, that I have decided not to renew my contract with Man Utd, as it still has three years and 349 days left to run. I sat down with the manager yesterday. On the bench. I thought you guys should know that.

[Ollie the Optimist]

move to manchester untied, stops loving wife and kids

https://p.twimg.com/A0r7515CcAAibGI.jpg

[LDG]

move to manchester untied, stops loving wife and kids

https://p.twimg.com/A0r7515CcAAibGI.jpg

:haha:

[V-Pig]

:haha:

[V-Pig]

Everyone kept RTing this yesterday. It's from his competition in April.

https://twitter.com/Persie_Official/status/195183903126986753

[LDG]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/253961_411654838892083_789911660_n.jpg

[Olivier's xmas twist]

move to manchester untied, stops loving wife and kids

https://p.twimg.com/A0r7515CcAAibGI.jpg


Oh dear, bet she is happy about that.

[The Wengerbabies]

Actually I do remember hearing that his wife wanted him to stay so maybe there is something in that :popcorn:

[GP]

Actually I do remember hearing that his wife wanted him to stay so maybe there is something in that :popcorn:

She's only 14 so she'll do as she's damn well told.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Actually I do remember hearing that his wife wanted him to stay so maybe there is something in that :popcorn:

He is getting 12 mill a year i think she'll be fine.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Last week Robin Van Persie shocked the world not just by leaving Arsenal to sign for rivals Manchester United, but by revealing that he frequently has schizophrenic, cross-generational discourse with ‘the little boy inside him’.

As it turns out, the little boy inside Robin Van Persie was screaming this week not only for Manchester United, but for Ruud Gullit Sitting On A Shed. Here is an exclusive minute-by-minute report on his United debut versus Everton, from the perspective of Van Persie’s inner child.

My First Game For Manchester United

By Robin Van Persie (age 8)

1 minute – I’m not playing so I’m sitting on a bench with lots of old men. I wish I had my Pogs with me.

12 minutes – Mr. Berbatov keeps saying nasty things about me and he thinks I can’t hear him but I can. I try and tell the manager, but he pretends he can’t hear me. I miss Emmanuel Frimpong, he was my best friend. Berbatov looks like a vampire!

25 minutes – Alex Fergie is a scary man but he has soft white hair and is very nice to me and lets me bounce the ball in his office.

32 minutes – I get scared because I just saw that I’m inside a man! Urgh, all I can see is guts and blood, oh my god this is horrible! Leighton Baines is playing well he is good at football and haircuts.

38 minutes – Mr Berbatov still hates me so I do him a drawing and give it to him so he will like me.


I thought this would cheer up Berbatov but he was still unhappy at me. I did not understand what he said so he wrote it down for me and he said I was a horrible little PUSTULE and that he could crush me with one hammer blow but I do not know what this means??

45 minutes – Forgot to bring pocket money for a drink, but the kitman gave me a bottle of Lucozade for free anyway!!!!

49 minutes – Leon Osman hits the bar, and that is good because he looks like the man that gave me the big injections that time and it hurt a lot

57 minutes – The man with the fluffy hair has scored a goal, and it gets very loud and it makes my ears hurt, and I nearly start crying but I tell Anderson that I look sad because my mum is dead, but she isn’t, and then I feel really bad, and that just makes me more sad so I think about my comics.

68 minutes – I am allowed to join in, and they all let me take a corner as soon as I come on! I kick the ball hard with my foot, and it didn’t hurt or anything. I have new boots and they are very shiny.

70 minutes – I scream a lot for Manchester United, but also, I scream for…. ICE CREAM! Nobody gets me any though, and it’s so unfair because everyone liked me when I said I would leave my friends and play here and now they’re all horrible and won’t let me do anything.

72 minutes -

List of things I scream for, by Robin Van Persie (age 8):

Man Yoo
Ice cream (NEOPOLITAN! Without the vanilla bit)
Staying up past bedtime
Summer holidays
Ben 10

90 minutes – We lost the game and we are all told off, but I’m not sent to bed early and I am given another bottle of Lucozade!! This is the best place ever, EVER. IDST.

found this on twitter


:haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Sir Alex said: “I thought I was pretty mild – I just called him a ‘useless wee bucket of fuck." :haha:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/van-persie-out-for-rest-of-season-after-ferguson-shouted-at-him-2012082238848

[Ollie the Optimist]

https://p.twimg.com/A055yTnCAAA5sCt.jpg

[GP]

He's got a little boy inside him?

What a pedo :lol:

[Letters]

Saw this on the way back from the game on Saturday :lol:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/wrdrichard/P1000418.jpg

[Syn]

:haha:

I think that's the only way the shirt could be salvaged.

[LDG]

Saw this on the way back from the game on Saturday :lol:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/wrdrichard/P1000418.jpg

Lol.

Why number 11 though :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He was 11 before 10.

[Kano]

i never knew that darren dein's company was called 'Double D Ltd'.

what a bellend.

[Ollie the Optimist]

the **** was subbed off with a groin injury today. it really shouldnt be funny but


http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/21520684.jpg

[Marc Overmars]

It was a Fergie special.

He'll be fine for the weekend.

[Niall_Quinn]

It was a Fergie special.

He'll be fine for the weekend.

Yeah but he's still a nasty man. And so is RvC.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

the **** was subbed off with a groin injury today. it really shouldnt be funny but


http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/21520684.jpg

Nah not serious says van gaal.

[Joker]

He'll be back in time for their game against Wigan.