[QUOTE=Dein-machine;464289]Were you watching Arsenal during the Cesc era by any chance? The youth policy Wenger would 'champion' in every interview. It's like you've blocked out that era. Crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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[QUOTE=Dein-machine;464289]Were you watching Arsenal during the Cesc era by any chance? The youth policy Wenger would 'champion' in every interview. It's like you've blocked out that era. Crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I think Aubameyang would be perfect for us. Could easily play across the front 3 and is just coming off the back of his most prolific season to date, 26 goals which is pretty good considering Dortmund were struggling for half the season.
He's Theo but with more composure.
[QUOTE=Power_n_Glory;464291]I love the way you can't answer a question - just incase you missed it - Who's the keeper for the Champions of Europe & how old is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
[QUOTE=Dein-machine;464293]Who the heck are you talking about now? Barca's keeper or Chelsea's? It's irrelevant. I'm not saying there are no good young players. I'm pointing out the young players we've signed in the past and how they've turned out. I don't trust Wenger to throw huge sums at untested players unless they have a solid record behind them and it's clear as day that they'll be spectacular. Just take a look at young Callum Chambers as an example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Edit: And I'm not saying Chambers is spectacular.
[QUOTE=Power_n_Glory;464294]Erm - Champions of Europe, that'll be Barca. Just pointing out that young keepers don't automatically result in failure as opposed to 33 year olds who will only ger worse not better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
Who's talking about young players throughout the team. You like stating facts made in other posts, so you will see the one where I stated that in my opinion only Kos, Santi, Ozil, & Sanchez were players that we would find it hard to improve on based on last year form. These are not our younger players. A good young keeper coming in, like a Perrin, with the experience of Merts & Kos infront of him has just has much chance to hit the ground running as he has of being another dud. We've had dud keepers for years coz we've spent no more than £3 mill on any of them - if Perrin costs £10 mill plus then theres a good chance he'll be more like a De Gea or a Lloris because thats what you get for your money.
:doh: De Gea didn't hit the ground running! Barca's attack is so potent they can take risks at the back as well.
Do Barca really have the best keeper in the world? Debatable.
How much did we spend on Callum Chambers and did he hit the ground running?
:lol: - When did i say hes the best keeper in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
But the young keeper at Barca has hit the ground running, as did Lloris. Some do, some don't. Sanchez did, Di Maria didn't - you can go on & on. But your suggestion is that buying youth is dangerous. My suggestion is buying "quality" youth that wiii improve is better than buying "quality" Aged players that will only go downhill. You may be after a quick fix but thats not what I want for this football club. You have absolutely no idea that Cech will have a better season for us next year than say a Perrin would - as I cannot guarantee that Perrin would be any better than Cech - but if they both had a similarly good season, who is the better bet.
I personally don't see the problem in signing Cech, most likely has another five years in him....and if we keep Szczesny hopefully someone who we have seen has potential if not maturity will have come of age (some keepers reach their peak early, some don't until their thirties).
Cech has the experience, and after years of cheap end stop gaps and potential that hasn't made it, it seems like a good move.
For starters Sanchez is 26! That’s not a young player in development. He’s hitting his prime and we’re getting his best years. Di Maria is 27!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
And did Callum Chambers hit the ground running when we paid £16m for him? Extend that question to any Arsenal player that we’ve bought that’s in their early 20s or younger? A lot of our young players have failed to hit the heights and it’s not as if it’s down to a lack of trying. We’ve been trying to develop young players that are ready for the first team.
We’ve bought talented players that do very well at youth level but never quiet hit the heights in the first team (Lupoli, Quincy, Bendy, Aliadiere), we’ve poached players from academies with good reps for developing players like Barca (Fran Merida, Miquel, Cesc) and Southampton (Chambers, Walcott, Ox) and invested in young British talent (Gibbs, Wilshere, Ramsey)….we’ve even bought young talented overseas players and loaned them out before kicking a ball for us just so they can earn a VISA (Vela, Campbell, Wellington Silva and Ryo).
We’ve been trying for over 10 years and only produced one player that comes close to being considered a World Class player. We’ve paid small fees and we’ve paid big fees. What does that say? I really don’t think we’re that good at developing exceptional word class talent and I’m against Wenger going out and pissing our transfer funds up the wall. If you can’t be trusted with the very least you shouldn’t be trusted with more. Unless we’re going for a world renowned wrecking machine that’s been killing it at first team level for a couple of seasons, I’m against such moves. I’m not saying players A, B, C won’t amount to much in their career, I’m just saying they won’t amount to much here at Arsenal under Wenger’s reign. We don’t have the time for it. Finish off the job on Gibbs, Ox, Wilshere, Walcott and co and then we’ll talk.
That’s me done on this subject.
You said: but never quiet hit the heights