Are we getting carried away with the doom and gloom?

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Originally Posted by Özim

Arteta has come out to support Xhaka, it's an absolute joke considering how this guy criticised Pepe, it's double standards again as it was with Willian, the sooner this chump is sacked the better, he's an absolute joke of a manager!



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55316020

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Spot on. Its laugable really - and the Arteta regime was supposed to be a meritocricy :rolleyes:

My theory is that Arteta is in thrall to his senior players because he thinks he needs them to help manage the team - when they are the very ones most stinking the place up.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Arteta has come out to support Xhaka, it's an absolute joke considering how this guy criticised Pepe, it's double standards again as it was with Willian, the sooner this chump is sacked the better, he's an absolute joke of a manager!



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55316020

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It wouldn't be so bad if Xhaka actually contributed to the team but he has been absolute dogshit from day one. Arteta not only sucks as a coach, he can't even manage the players fairly.

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Originally Posted by selassie

It wouldn't be so bad if Xhaka actually contributed to the team but he has been absolute dogshit from day one. Arteta not only sucks as a coach, he can't even manage the players fairly.

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Arseblog has pointed out today that while the likes of Gabriel and Pepe apologised for red cards that weren't anything like as unforgivable as Xhaka's behaviour, there has been a deafening silence from him; and that this points to disparity in the team. He makes the point that Xhaka is the cornerstone of the culture we need to move away from if the club is going to progress, and he is right. I never want to see this prick in an Arsenal shirt again, and the fact that Arteta will undoubtedly pick him again once he has served his ban sums up my disillusionment with our manager.

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Originally Posted by IBK

Arseblog has pointed out today that while the likes of Gabriel and Pepe apologised for red cards that weren't anything like as unforgivable as Xhaka's behaviour, there has been a deafening silence from him; and that this points to disparity in the team. He makes the point that Xhaka is the cornerstone of the culture we need to move away from if the club is going to progress, and he is right. I never want to see this prick in an Arsenal shirt again, and the fact that Arteta will undoubtedly pick him again once he has served his ban sums up my disillusionment with our manager.

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I've felt that way about Xhaka from about six months in from his starting with us - he showed some promise at the start but quickly was exposed as a slow clumsy f****r with a bad attitude on the pitch, but what's become ever clearer since is that his one talent appears to be sucking up to the manager and being the teachers' pet.

the contrast between the way he's treated and the way players like Guen, Oxil and Pepe have been treated is unbelieveable

i'd love to see a proper manager with balls come in and tell him to do one

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Originally Posted by IBK

Spot on. Its laugable really - and the Arteta regime was supposed to be a meritocricy :rolleyes:

My theory is that Arteta is in thrall to his senior players because he thinks he needs them to help manage the team - when they are the very ones most stinking the place up.

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The irony is some of the senior players he has backed to the hilt (Luiz & Willian) are now allegedly conspiring against him.

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Originally Posted by Gooner23

The irony is some of the senior players he has backed to the hilt (Luiz & Willian) are now allegedly conspiring against him.

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Chelsea players are masters at getting managers ousted - it would be ironic if those useless has-beens Luiz and Willian help us get rid of him

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Originally Posted by IBK

Arseblog has pointed out today that while the likes of Gabriel and Pepe apologised for red cards that weren't anything like as unforgivable as Xhaka's behaviour, there has been a deafening silence from him; and that this points to disparity in the team. He makes the point that Xhaka is the cornerstone of the culture we need to move away from if the club is going to progress, and he is right. I never want to see this prick in an Arsenal shirt again, and the fact that Arteta will undoubtedly pick him again once he has served his ban sums up my disillusionment with our manager.

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Yep, we are on the same page IBK, totally agree.

Rumours that Martinelli could be in the squad tomorrow as not involved with the U23s tonight. That would be a big boost to have him back.

Possibly but it is 9 on the bench now, so it might be just for the numbers. :lol:

Arteta was speaking enthusiastically about him though so hopefully he'll be involved very soon.

It seems we were underplaying it.