Are we getting carried away with the doom and gloom?

[Mac76]

three stories i've seen this morning showing what a mess Arteta is making:

- Torreira doesn't want to come back from loan

- Ozil wants to honour his contract and doesn't want to be paid off - his agent says "Mesut was the player who reached 50 Premier League assists, faster than anyone else, in 141 appearances and Arsenal need exactly this kind of creativity. They say he was sidelined for 'football reasons' but that's not something I can comment on. I think the fans want him back on the pitch and at the last match they also chanted his name."

- Saliba is probably going out on loan in January

[IBK]

three stories i've seen this morning showing what a mess Arteta is making:

- Torreira doesn't want to come back from loan

- Ozil wants to honour his contract and doesn't want to be paid off - his agent says "Mesut was the player who reached 50 Premier League assists, faster than anyone else, in 141 appearances and Arsenal need exactly this kind of creativity. They say he was sidelined for 'football reasons' but that's not something I can comment on. I think the fans want him back on the pitch and at the last match they also chanted his name."

- Saliba is probably going out on loan in January

I think we need to be a bit cautious before blaming Arteta for everything - albeit that he is failing pretty badly. Torreira was not pulling up any trees when he last played and the Athletico experiment hasn't worked. The stories I am seeing is that he may come back to Arsenal early. Not the player's decision anyway.

Ozil has been picked over ad nauseam. As I posted elsewhere, he and his agent are doing a good PR job, but (1) sucessive managers have had issue with him and this can't be coincidence, and (2) you have to wonder about a player who has no need for money staying at a club where he is not playing. What kind of football ambition is that?

Saliba is a head-scratcher for sure but his position is not one where we are lacking personnel.

[Mac76]

Someone's posted comments by Vinai and Edu from a fan forum the club held last night - basically lots of stuff about difficulties, but the club is holding it together and having faith in Mikel - oh and none of the players are unhappy

https://twitter.com/Peterhoest/statu...49269173243912

[Niall_Quinn]

Excellent! This unity and happiness should translate onto the pitch then. Looking forward to the new reality tonight.

[dazthegooner]

Even if we were to win the next 3 games (don't laugh) though concede too may goals in the process Arteta would probably bring Zhaka back anyway.

[Bumble]

Looks like we are going to miss out on Big Sam. As Bilic has been sacked.

[GP]

Even if we were to win the next 3 games (don't laugh) though concede too may goals in the process Arteta would probably bring Zhaka back anyway.

Who?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Someone's posted comments by Vinai and Edu from a fan forum the club held last night - basically lots of stuff about difficulties, but the club is holding it together and having faith in Mikel - oh and none of the players are unhappy

https://twitter.com/Peterhoest/statu...49269173243912

I think this is the most revealing comment:

Edu: It’s quite clear what we need. (about transfers)
We need a player with creativity in the middle, we don’t have that in the squad right now.


It’s complete bullshit. I have no issue if they want to sell Ozil but dont come out and say we dont have any creative players when there is one right there. Plus Pepe, Smith-Rowe etc.

its comments like that that just cause fans not to trust anyone at the club

[Özim]

Arteta has come out to support Xhaka, it's an absolute joke considering how this guy criticised Pepe, it's double standards again as it was with Willian, the sooner this chump is sacked the better, he's an absolute joke of a manager!

But Arteta says the 28-year-old warrants his support. "He has had tough times here and he's not the only one, there's a lot of players that have had rocky moments," he said.

"But what I can say about Granit is that his professionalism and his commitment with the club and with his team-mates is maximal.

"He knows - and we all know - that he had a moment where he's lost it and I know the reason why. But what I cannot do is just throw everything that he has done away because he's made a mistake.

"We all make mistakes and I am here as well to protect the players when I see that they deserve that.

"And, for sure, Granit is one of them - for the way that he approaches every training session, for the way he wants to do things in the right way all the time and for the professional that he is."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55316020

[Ollie the Optimist]

Fully agree that is comments on Xhaka were out of order given what he said about Pepe.

It’s not like Xhaka hasn’t had a history of rash red cards etc whereas that was Pepes first one for us i think.