That would be stupid.
He's on a long term contract and his best years are way ahead of him.
Though if that leaked audio is anything to go by, maybe it's he himself who wants to move on.
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That would be stupid.
He's on a long term contract and his best years are way ahead of him.
Though if that leaked audio is anything to go by, maybe it's he himself who wants to move on.
If the leaked recording was him, and I'm not convinced it was, his problem was with the coaching.
That problem has been solved now. He can't be sold.
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Originally Posted by GP
And I'm pretty sure the leaked audio was the AFTV muppets who were out to expose to him after he basically called them out in his Oxford Union interview.
Selling Hector for peanuts would be the dumbest move ever especially as we've got no replacement. Walker went for 52 million FFS .... Hector under a decent coach & system is worth double that.
€50m isn't peanuts unless you are a billionaire. £50m wouldn't be an unreasonable bid for a full back and money the board are likely to take. But we have no back up right back. We already have enough holes in the team that we don't need to create another and £50m isn't really going to allow us to plug 2 gaps in the side. If we sold a player and were able to plug 2 holes then yes that is a good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Maybe it's 50 mill and a player coming the other way. In this market though, 50 mill is indeed peanuts.
The audio was definetly him. But he's going nowhere now.
I'd like to see Bellerin stay at least one or two seasons under a new manager and see how he does.
At the moment he's not good enough. He's terrible at both ends of the pitch. He was never a natural defender and he rarely produces anything in the final third. But maybe a new coach could teach him what Wenger could not.
If somebody can explain coherently how a voice that distinctive and difficult to mimmick can be hoaxed I'll consider the recording was a fake....but as far as I'm concerned it was him. It's not like half the squad haven't wanted out of here...so it's hardly difficult to believe.
I fear that often when a player's mind is made up it's made up and their heart is simply set on leaving and will only stay if the buying club doesn't quite do enough to make it happen. He could view Wenger's departure as something that will make it easier even. If the Giroud deal is anything to go by, he'll probably be asking Wenger to help it happen before Wenger goes!
Having said that we hold the cards. He's on a long contract (I think still...) and we don't have to sell.
Arsenal want a new keeper and a whole new back four this summer. Story: https://t.co/gP8mT6GYgt
SAS:bow:
I believe it’s definitely him and I’ll continue to believe so unless I see a denial. The fact he kept quiet when it would easily have been brought to his attention tells me everything I need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
He’s one of the more salvageable members of the squad so I hope he’s made to stay and hopefully kick on under the new coach.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/30m-rat...club-president
Apparently we're on the verge of signing Caglar Soyuncu from Freiburg. Beat of Bayern apparently.
Between Mavraponos & Holding's new contract I legit think we're going to flog Mustafi this summer. :partytime:
SAS :bow:
i really hope the new manager has a clearout:
Mustafi, Welbeck, Wilshere, Welbeck, Xhaka, Welbeck, Cech, Welbeck...
and Welbeck...
Don’t forget Welbeck.
damn, i knew there was someone else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Quinn
What about....erm, well.. Wellington... no, welcome...no,
Erm....er..... wel...beck......
Welbeck ?!
Did you see that ridiculous thing Mkhi did? He had a shot.
Glad Welbeck justified his inclusion over him tonight. He contributed a lot with his lovely smile.
We will need to replace at least 5 players from the starting 11 (Mustafi, Kos, Xhaka, Cech and possible Jack) and depending on who is sold (Bellerin) it might be more.
We need two new CBS as Kos is now too crocked to be relied on and Mustafi is a liability. Xhaka has been done to death, he is not a DCM (actually don’t understand what he is good at apart from decent passing). Cech needs to go as well and Ospina cannot be trusted, he is rash and makes other around him nervous.
And WELBECK!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Would you?
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-man-city-exit
I would..
10 years ago, yeah.
Now he's an unmotivated sloth who's going to steal a living wherever he goes next. No thanks, we have enough of them.
I had to go back to the previous page as I thought you were talking about Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
No he's past it and petulant, especially if the club doesn't give him a birthday cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
What exactly makes him petulant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
His petulance.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
My thoughts exactly. Toure's just another Ozil, talented yeah but he just wants an easy life and a big paycheck. We wont get anywhere unless we sign players with drive and ambition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Shaqiri needs a new home - i know the key areas for shoring up are at the back but if we sold ozil he'd be a good replacement and constitute a saving - he might actually want to, er, play football matches too...
Toure is a player approaching 35 years old and has won almost everything there is to win in football. Two La Liga titles, Copa del Rey, Champions League, two Premier League titles, FA Cup, League Cup, African Cup of Nations.... Toure is not another Ozil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Ozil is still 29 years old, still hasn't won the Champs League and has only ever won the league with Real Madrid. The World Cup is a great achievement but for a player of his ability, I have no idea why he's downing tools now when there is still so much to play for. Toure is approaching retirement age and more injury prone. He's had a great career and has made the most of it. Nothing like Ozil.
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Originally Posted by Mac76
I meant he's another Ozil in terms of his attitude and laziness on the pitch. MO quite rightly said we don't need any more of those. We won't get anywhere no matter what manager takes the reins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
But even in terms of trophies won there's nothing between them apart from the Champions League. It's pointless comparing what they've done in the Premier league because all that proves is that Toure made a better career choice than Ozil. Do you really think Toure would have won the league if he joined Arsenal? :lol:
You may want to look a little closer at what they've won. Toure has won league titles for three different clubs and has 2 La Liga titles and 2 Prem titles (I'm discounting this year's title under Pep).Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Ozil has only ever won the league once and that's with Real Madrid in 2012. I can't understand why he thinks it's ok to take time off at 29 years old with that record.
Would we have won the league with Toure? Maybe. He's the sort of CM we've needed for years. But that's besides the point. Most players in Ozil's position leave and don't sign new contracts if the club can't match their sporting ambition. Henry, Cesc, RVP, Sanchez....Ozil signing a new deal and then downing tools not too long after ink has dried is something else. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Yaya Toure.
I think we're both arguing about different things. I'm not trying to compare their careers, I'm comparing their play styles on the pitch.
That's not a fair comparison because Ozil hasn't played for a club capable of winning league titles apart from Real Madrid. Even Real's title in 2012 came at a time when Barca were by far and away the dominant team in the World.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
Yaya won titles for three clubs - Barca, Man City and Olympiakos. Barca speak for themselves, Man City bought the league and Olympiakos (just googled it) were already champions when he joined and won the league another 3 times in a row after he left. I'm not belittling his contributions to those title wins but he was at clubs capable of winning with or without him. Ozil on the other hand played for Schalke, Werder Bremen and Arsenal.
Not sure about that. CM has never been the only problem area. We went three or four years with Giroud as our main striker and our defence has been a joke since 2004. Then there's the keepers, the tactics, Ramsey on the wing, Sanogo, Gervinho. Forget Toure, we wouldn't have had a chance even if we had Messi. :lol:Quote:
Would we have won the league with Toure? Maybe. He's the sort of CM we've needed for years. But that's besides the point. Most players in Ozil's position leave and don't sign new contracts if the club can't match their sporting ambition. Henry, Cesc, RVP, Sanchez....Ozil signing a new deal and then downing tools not too long after ink has dried is something else. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Yaya Toure.
'Talks with his representatives' (Jean Seri) whatever the hell that means, also this has the yellow bar treatment on SSN also.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...potential-deal
Who?
Heard the name a lot in recent transfer windows.
No idea if he's any good but I'm all for new CM options though.
Apparently a very good but miniature CM. This might mean Ramsey is going.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We were linked with Seri last year.
All I know of him is he's 5 foot 5
In high heels.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
A Big Black DM.
Who's not big.
Or a DM.
What's the point of him?
Arteta already off to a dreadful start.
I'd be surprised if we weren't seriously sniffing around Max Meyer on a free? Wasn't that keen on him before - sounded like another lightweight AM - but apparently Tedesco has reinvented him as a deep-lying playmaker this year, and he's really taken to it...
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/B...sco-474104.jsp
https://www.football.london/arsenal-...halke-14230237
Comparisons to Xabi Alonso and Santi Cazorla? Sounds like something we could do with, assuming they're accurate.