One Arsene Wenger...

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

There's the Christian way of living and the Christian church, two different things. The Christian church is an easy way to avoid living a Christian life, it hires mortals to dole out perks (or the promises of perks) for the heavily discounted price of conformity. A Christian life would be tough in the modern age. For example, there's no way you can be a genuine Christian and vote or pay tax. You can't work for the government. You can't have a bank account. It's a long list. I can't imagine there are many Christians.

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In the new testament (e.g. Romans) Christians are told to submit to governing authorities and Jesus himself said to pay tax. Voting is part of partaking in the governing structures of the day, as unpalatable as most parties are today.

Also the division between church and Christian isn't one the Bible allows, see Hebrews for example. There are religious organisations that call themselves churches but rely on their works rather than Christ's work for their eternal hope, these are not churches and eternity will show it to be so.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

First thing is that there are few true Christians on this board because the bible states that. "Thou shalt have no other God than me, for I am a jealous god". Most of you idolaters used to worship some muppet called Wenger. Many are yet to recant......Unless you do. No chance of making heaven.

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In Arsene I do not trust! (except to deliver defeat)

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Originally Posted by mr_brighterside

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In the new testament (e.g. Romans) Christians are told to submit to governing authorities and Jesus himself said to pay tax. Voting is part of partaking in the governing structures of the day, as unpalatable as most parties are today.

Also the division between church and Christian isn't one the Bible allows, see Hebrews for example. There are religious organisations that call themselves churches but rely on their works rather than Christ's work for their eternal hope, these are not churches and eternity will show it to be so.

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The Bible advocates all sorts of behaviour, fair and foul. The Church's version of Jesus probably bears no resemblance to the man. Whichever man you decide to pick, as there were many Jesus figures around that time and before. The Jesus of the New Testament was plainly a revolutionary, in an earthly as well as spiritual sense. Whether he wanted to be worshipped through the ages is open to debate. This is why I distinguish between the Christianity of the Church (the façade and let's face it, nothing more than a development of the Sun 'son' worship religions that went before) and what surely is the principle and intent that underlies Christianity as a way of life. I think we can all agree that refraining from murder, robbery, and so on is the ultimate ideal. Love everyone as you would love yourself. This is a simple but powerfully all-encompassing directive and really speaking no other rules are required as they are all implied. The principle of government and taxation is not the problem. But you can't in all conscience contribute to a modern day government and it's evil economic policies, social policies and warmongering and then claim to follow the doctrine of love. It's entirely contradictory. What I'm really saying is the modern Christian is a coward.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

First thing is that there are few true Christians on this board because the bible states that. "Thou shalt have no other God than me, for I am a jealous god". Most of you idolaters used to worship some muppet called Wenger. Many are yet to recant......Unless you do. No chance of making heaven.

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Zealot

F*** off! We're the Wengerian People's Front.
Pff. People's Front of Wenger.
Splitters!

I'm afraid NQ is taking all of this much too seriously. Chill out man! we are just using this as an escape from our collective misery. If God really worried about the suffering of mankind. He would have visited Wenger one evening to ask WTF is going on. One God to another mind you.

Santa must be pissed off too :(

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

I'm afraid NQ is taking all of this much too seriously. Chill out man! we are just using this as an escape from our collective misery. If God really worried about the suffering of mankind. He would have visited Wenger one evening to ask WTF is going on. One God to another mind you.

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??? No I'm not. Besides, if you are going to use religion (or politics) as a form of escapism then you deserve what you get.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Santa must be pissed off too :(

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He won't be wearing red this year.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

??? No I'm not. Besides, if you are going to use religion (or politics) as a form of escapism then you deserve what you get.

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Eternal life?

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