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Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster
They just love to moan and bitch for the sake of it tbh.
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Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster
They just love to moan and bitch for the sake of it tbh.
You've mentioned things which are the same. And yes, there are some similarities to other seasons but there are some differences too. Ones which I don't think should be dismissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Potentially, but maybe he just wants to focus on the task at hand and not get distracted by all that. And partly I suspect he's waiting to see if we'll be playing CL football next year which for a player at his level is not unreasonable. It looks like we will so that's less of a concern.Quote:
As for RVP, when a player says he wants to leave contract talks til the end of the season, that spells trouble
I agree we need to sign some quality players to show ambition, failure to do so may well make RvP leave in frustration at the prospect of having to carry us again next season. The Podolski thing is a positive sign that we are going to do so.
This is a massive summer for the club and I'm not 100% confident that we'll do what we need to but I do see more signs of hope than I have for a while.
I am saving this thread.. One of two things will happen:
- We will do F'all in the transfer market, buying a couple of future greats, losing RVP and getting Podolski.. we will be in waiting period or some other period! (Most likely scenario)
- AW will go bat shit in the summer.. get players, get a Plan B, get rid of deadwood etc etc
If the later comes true, I'll be happily eating humble pie.. if not, I'll be :pal: ing the shit outta MOC's!
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And we'll all be so gutted that we lost the internet to you.
Oooorrrrrr, we might just be pissed off that Arsenal have failed again, and not pay you any attention.
You cant hide from me, homes... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Wenger will most probably use our end of season form as justification for not making many signings in the summer (he's already insinuated that) Then, when we start the season with an understrength squad relative to other teams who would have improved their squad, we'll again be out of the title race by October, and then the cycle starts again. I hope he finally "gets it" but I doubt it. As long as we get 4th place he will have achieved what the club want, and we'll continue to regress.
Yeah but ultimately we'll still all support the same club in the shitter so nobody wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Why would you want to do that? You want Arsenal to fail and you care more about being 'right' than Arsenal doing well?Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Pretty twattish, tbh.
Just shows how retarded some posters are really are tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Nowhere in that post did he say he wants Arsenal to fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
When, where has he said he won't sign players and he is happy with what we got?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Your actions do not befit that of a moderator recently. You happily ignore the part where I said, I will happily eat humble pie if the later comes true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I am just trying to see the optimistic view of what is likely going to be the same shit different day scenario next season.
Not this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Show me where I said I want Arsenal to fail. Do not reply in "this, that, where, what" and somehow agree/disagree. Show me literally where I said that or insinuated that.
I said I will gladly eat humble pie if what Letters and some posters think might happen.. If not, I am just going to put some smile on my face by saying "i told you so"
Was not talking about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
But the post of Letters you quoted saying that was about FY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Who else would you be talking about?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...y-Arsenal.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Tell me we havent seen something similar in the last 6 years..
You're not trying very hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Here:Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
And previously you said you'd be "pointing and laughing" at the people who are more positive if we fail.Quote:
If not, I am just going to put some smile on my face by saying "i told you so"
Sounds like you'd be pretty pleased to be proven right. Well have a cookie if you are, the rest of us will just be pissed off. But yeah, have a big smile on your face about winning the internet if you must. Well done you.
If you say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
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Originally Posted by Letters
How is it that you fail to understand I am laughing at your blind faith in AW and not wanting us to lose? And yes, I love to be proven right- on the internet, off the internet. Dont act like you dont or else you wouldnt be online on a MB debating this stuff. I base what I say from facts in the recent past, you base yours on blind faith... despite the obvious flaw in your argument, I hope you win! I'll mail you a box of cookies too.. thats how pleased I will be!!
If i say what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Did you not say you'd be happy if we got beat by Spurs if it meant AW going, did you not say you'd be happy if we lost all our games if it meant AW going.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Your happy for us to fail as long as AW goes, thats being a good fan that.
Im sure you'll figure it out as you know it all anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Wtf are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
:leave it yeah: Don't get Dench bruv.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
wenger is a clever man, no one can argue with that, given the reactions he has got this season from fans at the agm, at games and elsewhere does anyone really think the club would be that fucking stupid to turn around and go, its fine we won some games so this squad is good enough. there would be murder. they wont repeat last summer because they are not htat stupid
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Considering last summer was the repeat of the one before that which was a repeat of the one before that and so on, this will go the same
genuine question here. why do you post on here? all you do is say we will lose, that player is shit, the manager is a dick. it will all be the same next year when we fuck up etc etc and then when something happens that is good for the club you dont take any joy from it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
why bother?
He's a wum thats why. Some who says werr all mugs and still posts with us only does for 1 reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Im realisticQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Can the same be said about you?
If the same thing keeps on happening every summer then its only natural to think it will happen this.
Id like to be proved wrong. History suggests i wont be.
Whereas you, you think we are the best no matter what we do. That doesnt prove your love for this club. It just proves you are a bit slow. I cant critisise you. I was like you. 3 time winner of most optimistic award winner on GW proves that. Well it proves i was a better optimist than you but thats not the point here. Point is, i opened my eyes and saw whats really happening at this club. I hope the same doesnt happen to you and that we go back to being a brilliant side and you never see us as the shite ass side we have become. Its whats best for you kids.
Speaking the truth isnt wumming....if i was wumming, i'd be defending WengerQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
If you think half of what you say is true then more fool you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
So we havent had shit summers the past few years then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
right so you answer my post by saying i havnt grown up whereas you have therefore completely missing the point of my postQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
also, you are realistic. being realistic is what you are not. you say we are going to lose every game, that is not realistic, you say we are shit and how wenger is a **** etc etc so i dont know how you can argue you are being realistic and telling me one day that i will be when all you do is moan about hte team, never praise them.
my point was why do you bother, you always expect us to lose, always blame someone (wenger) for everything, never take joy when we win or when you are proved wrong. thats not being realistic thats being fucking stupid.
being realistic is when thinking of the city game, going on our day we can win, we have been playing well so if we play like the scum game we will win this one but a draw is most likely. you on the otherhand said we are getting arse raped in htis, whats our biggest defeat in history. thats not realistic thats fucking stupid
Like i said if you think Half and thats the key world half of what you say it true then more fool you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
To say people are wummung because they defend wenger or don't waste their engery slating him in every post like you do is nonsense.
This is Goonersweb not We hate Wengers Web.
You want a forum where everyone thinks like you and hates Wenger Simples go join one or join a facebook group then you can shoot you load together about how much you hate the Man etc.
Oliie has a right to his views without being told he is a child and he is right. All you do is come on hear and moan about how shit we are or how we would have been relegated this season.
Put it this way if you don't slate AW in ever post you a naive lil kid who don't know better and still has their eyes closed and you also accept failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
You had said that the earlier message wasnt for me but you come with this message after thinking for a while.. ok! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Of course I said that! Look at where AW has brought us in the last 6 years. Other than your optimism, where are we in the table? Where are we in the cups? Same place as last 6 seasons. I said it before and I will say it again.. had we not lost 8-2 at OT, we wouldnt have got Arteta, Santos and the last minute signings. A great fall is needed to jolt AW and his bunch of cronies up.
Having said that, you carefully forget the fact that I have said numerous times that if AW proves me wrong, I will be happier than if he doesnt. Dont do selective quoting if you want to argue. Try to understand what is the whole picture... do you watch half a movie or read half a book without understanding the whole concept? I thought so...
I don't have blind faith in Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
I've said repeatedly that he should have been sacked for last season's debacle.
But I'm certainly willing to give some credit where it's due for the way he's got it together this season and turned things around after the car crash last summer and the awful start. How many other managers could have seen their 2 best midfielders leave in one summer (not through his choice although he should have got rid earlier and got in some replacements rather than panic buying on deadline day) and still get it together enough to overhaul Spurs after everyone was sucking their collective dicks and declaring them title contenders. This isn't just a brief purple patch. Since October when we started to get it together and the panic buys bedded in we've got only 3 fewer points than Utd, we've got 2 more points than City. That shows a fairly long term consistency which you're dismissing too glibly.
Whether that will continue...well, we'll see. But I've explained carefully why I'm seeing positive signs that I haven't seen for a long time (so no, not just blind faith, based on what I'm seeing and feeling when I go to games) and I hope we continue to go in the right direction. I'm sure you do too. I don't care who is 'right' or 'wrong', I care about Arsenal moving in the right direction. We clearly are right now, I hope that continues. Failure next season will piss us all off, people like you strutting around because you were 'right' isn't going to help and will give the impression that you're pleased to have been 'right' and you value that more than Arsenal's progression, something we surely all want.
3rd. A damn sight higher than we were most seasons before Wenger. And far higher than you (or I) thought we'd be at this stage of the season. Did you see us finishing above Spurs? I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Yes yes, we should have won some trophies along the way, Wenger has failed there. But if you think it's easy to finish top 4 every single year then...well, you name me another manager who has done it over such a consistent period?
Fergie. Wenger. That's it. It's not as easy as you seem to think. I've explained several times why I think this lot have more bottle about them than the last few years. I'd trust them more in a Cup final now than for a long time.