Arsenal vs Man city Sunday 8th April 16:00

[Cripps_orig]

genuine question here. why do you post on here? all you do is say we will lose, that player is shit, the manager is a dick. it will all be the same next year when we fuck up etc etc and then when something happens that is good for the club you dont take any joy from it?

why bother?

Im realistic

Can the same be said about you?

If the same thing keeps on happening every summer then its only natural to think it will happen this.

Id like to be proved wrong. History suggests i wont be.

Whereas you, you think we are the best no matter what we do. That doesnt prove your love for this club. It just proves you are a bit slow. I cant critisise you. I was like you. 3 time winner of most optimistic award winner on GW proves that. Well it proves i was a better optimist than you but thats not the point here. Point is, i opened my eyes and saw whats really happening at this club. I hope the same doesnt happen to you and that we go back to being a brilliant side and you never see us as the shite ass side we have become. Its whats best for you kids.

[Cripps_orig]

He's a wum thats why. Some who says werr all mugs and still posts with us only does for 1 reason.

Speaking the truth isnt wumming....if i was wumming, i'd be defending Wenger

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Speaking the truth isnt wumming....if i was wumming, i'd be defending Wenger

If you think half of what you say is true then more fool you.

[Cripps_orig]

If you think half of what you say is true then more fool you.

So we havent had shit summers the past few years then?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Im realistic

Can the same be said about you?

If the same thing keeps on happening every summer then its only natural to think it will happen this.

Id like to be proved wrong. History suggests i wont be.

Whereas you, you think we are the best no matter what we do. That doesnt prove your love for this club. It just proves you are a bit slow. I cant critisise you. I was like you. 3 time winner of most optimistic award winner on GW proves that. Well it proves i was a better optimist than you but thats not the point here. Point is, i opened my eyes and saw whats really happening at this club. I hope the same doesnt happen to you and that we go back to being a brilliant side and you never see us as the shite ass side we have become. Its whats best for you kids.

right so you answer my post by saying i havnt grown up whereas you have therefore completely missing the point of my post

also, you are realistic. being realistic is what you are not. you say we are going to lose every game, that is not realistic, you say we are shit and how wenger is a **** etc etc so i dont know how you can argue you are being realistic and telling me one day that i will be when all you do is moan about hte team, never praise them.

my point was why do you bother, you always expect us to lose, always blame someone (wenger) for everything, never take joy when we win or when you are proved wrong. thats not being realistic thats being fucking stupid.
being realistic is when thinking of the city game, going on our day we can win, we have been playing well so if we play like the scum game we will win this one but a draw is most likely. you on the otherhand said we are getting arse raped in htis, whats our biggest defeat in history. thats not realistic thats fucking stupid

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So we havent had shit summers the past few years then?

Like i said if you think Half and thats the key world half of what you say it true then more fool you.

To say people are wummung because they defend wenger or don't waste their engery slating him in every post like you do is nonsense.

This is Goonersweb not We hate Wengers Web.
You want a forum where everyone thinks like you and hates Wenger Simples go join one or join a facebook group then you can shoot you load together about how much you hate the Man etc.

Oliie has a right to his views without being told he is a child and he is right. All you do is come on hear and moan about how shit we are or how we would have been relegated this season.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

right so you answer my post by saying i havnt grown up whereas you have therefore completely missing the point of my post

also, you are realistic. being realistic is what you are not. you say we are going to lose every game, that is not realistic, you say we are shit and how wenger is a **** etc etc so i dont know how you can argue you are being realistic and telling me one day that i will be when all you do is moan about hte team, never praise them.

my point was why do you bother, you always expect us to lose, always blame someone (wenger) for everything, never take joy when we win or when you are proved wrong. thats not being realistic thats being fucking stupid.
being realistic is when thinking of the city game, going on our day we can win, we have been playing well so if we play like the scum game we will win this one but a draw is most likely. you on the otherhand said we are getting arse raped in htis, whats our biggest defeat in history. thats not realistic thats fucking stupid

Put it this way if you don't slate AW in ever post you a naive lil kid who don't know better and still has their eyes closed and you also accept failure.

[fakeyank]

Did you not say you'd be happy if we got beat by Spurs if it meant AW going, did you not say you'd be happy if we lost all our games if it meant AW going.

Your happy for us to fail as long as AW goes, thats being a good fan that.

You had said that the earlier message wasnt for me but you come with this message after thinking for a while.. ok!

Of course I said that! Look at where AW has brought us in the last 6 years. Other than your optimism, where are we in the table? Where are we in the cups? Same place as last 6 seasons. I said it before and I will say it again.. had we not lost 8-2 at OT, we wouldnt have got Arteta, Santos and the last minute signings. A great fall is needed to jolt AW and his bunch of cronies up.

Having said that, you carefully forget the fact that I have said numerous times that if AW proves me wrong, I will be happier than if he doesnt. Dont do selective quoting if you want to argue. Try to understand what is the whole picture... do you watch half a movie or read half a book without understanding the whole concept? I thought so...

[Letters]

How is it that you fail to understand I am laughing at your blind faith in AW and not wanting us to lose?

I don't have blind faith in Wenger.
I've said repeatedly that he should have been sacked for last season's debacle.

But I'm certainly willing to give some credit where it's due for the way he's got it together this season and turned things around after the car crash last summer and the awful start. How many other managers could have seen their 2 best midfielders leave in one summer (not through his choice although he should have got rid earlier and got in some replacements rather than panic buying on deadline day) and still get it together enough to overhaul Spurs after everyone was sucking their collective dicks and declaring them title contenders. This isn't just a brief purple patch. Since October when we started to get it together and the panic buys bedded in we've got only 3 fewer points than Utd, we've got 2 more points than City. That shows a fairly long term consistency which you're dismissing too glibly.

Whether that will continue...well, we'll see. But I've explained carefully why I'm seeing positive signs that I haven't seen for a long time (so no, not just blind faith, based on what I'm seeing and feeling when I go to games) and I hope we continue to go in the right direction. I'm sure you do too. I don't care who is 'right' or 'wrong', I care about Arsenal moving in the right direction. We clearly are right now, I hope that continues. Failure next season will piss us all off, people like you strutting around because you were 'right' isn't going to help and will give the impression that you're pleased to have been 'right' and you value that more than Arsenal's progression, something we surely all want.

[Letters]

where are we in the table?

3rd. A damn sight higher than we were most seasons before Wenger. And far higher than you (or I) thought we'd be at this stage of the season. Did you see us finishing above Spurs? I didn't.
Yes yes, we should have won some trophies along the way, Wenger has failed there. But if you think it's easy to finish top 4 every single year then...well, you name me another manager who has done it over such a consistent period?
Fergie. Wenger. That's it. It's not as easy as you seem to think. I've explained several times why I think this lot have more bottle about them than the last few years. I'd trust them more in a Cup final now than for a long time.