You only think it's dumb because from your response you clearly didn't understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironing
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You only think it's dumb because from your response you clearly didn't understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironing
tbf you are right. I didn't read the post you quoted. Thought you were talking about Nasri's 'ambition' rather than City's. Understandable really since you don't seem get why he'd chose them over arsenal!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
I don't see why people expect loyalty from our foreign players to be honest.
They haven't really grown up supporting the club, we don't really shown much ambition in terms of transfers and constantly reiterate the fact 4th is a great achievement.
If I was a player and was at a club who didn't really aim for success I'd be looking to move on at some stage as I think to have medals at the end of your career gives you something to show for your efforts.
Le Tissier was a great footballer but do you know what, he'll never be as a good as he could have been had he moved to a top club challenging for honours, had he done so he'd had something to show for his talent and would be remembered far more fondly.
At the end of the day what does Nasri owe the club, had we not signed him someone else would, he was one of the best French talents after all...I don't think we've done a huge amount for him, nothing that he wouldn't have got elsewhere anyway.
Le Tissier is remembered very fondly. He was a great player who chose the club he had most affinity with over a big money move and glory hunting.
I'm sure he doesn't regret it for an instant and I admire him for it.
I don't expect modern footballers to do that at all but I have respect for someone who recognises that life isn't all about money and relentlessly trying to get to the top at the expense of personal happiness.
Would have been a much better player had he moved and challenged himself to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Does anyone remember anything he did, all I remember is him scoring some nice goals in meaningless matches.
I'm sure if he met up with some Man U old boys he'd have some regrets when they show him their medals and he has none.
Very talented footballer who achieved nothing unfortunately for him.
As for Nasri I don't for one instant think it's solely about money, moving to Man City means playing with some of the world's best players, likely success on top of more money.
Not really hard to see why that would appeal, if we'd shown more ambition in the transfer market (let's face it loads of our own players have asked for this over the years) we might have been able to keep some of these guys.
Interesting that Nasri cited playing with players like Silva and Aguero/Tevez as important as well, big players like to play with top players, we use to offer that but nowadays all we have is project/unknowns and kids which aren't going to bring players here.
He also mentioned Vieira and how he's a legend and also influenced his decision, think we need some recognisable faces around the club, players other players look up to and if still playing want to play alongside.
I actually think signing recognisable players does make a difference both in terms of morale but also in your ability to attract/keep players, at the moment we really have noone.
He wouldn't have been a better player, he would have won more medals but he knew that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yes, I remember plenty he did, I always enjoyed watching him play.
I don't think he has any regrets, I've certainly not heard him express any. He knew the deal, he was happy where he was and valued that more highly than medals. Good for him. He could have moved on at any time but he never did so he was clearly happy with his choice.
Not everyone thinks like you. It's very clear that you're a glory hunter, Le Tissier wasn't, it seems he valued the friends and family and the area he lived in and, for him, that was more important.
Some people have no ambition what can you say, guess it's why they never achieve anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
LeTissier being one, such a shame that he wasted his talent when he could have shown off his skills on the biggest stage. I think he would have been a better player, because inevitably playing with better players around you also has an effect.
It's not gloryhunting, it's common sense to be honest...you want something to show for your career rather than just money.
Not sure how we've gone from defending Nasri to Le Tissier :lol:
That said, no one remembers Le Tissier or rates him apart from Southampton fans cos he wasn't brave enough to step up to the next level. Failed internationally as well. :rose:
Says it all, I'm afraid.
Sums it up perfectly, shame though as he was amazingly talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss