Do you still want Wenger as Arsenal manager?

There's no evidence for the alonso and schwarzer stuff, you people have just pulled whatever you want out of your arse.

The way the board, which has proven over the years to be a tight board, get off scott-free, is laughable.

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Originally Posted by Boss

That doesn't make sense as all the 'backroom squabbling' if it exists is actually harming the club on the pitch with no trophies in the last 6 years.

I honestly think he just has too much faith in the players he has / players he signs and believes they will come good and prove everyone wrong eventually, which is why he sticks with them.

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It only seems to have become a problem recently, after the debt started getting repaid and the Highbury development resolved itself, before that it was obvious that they were in it together imo.

I think he does tend to have more faith in players than other managers, some repay it like Song/RvP/Wilshere/Szczesny but some don't, like Bendtner and Denilson, it can be a flaw as well as a strength but it's served us pretty well so far (last 2 seasons aside).

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Bit of a copout to be honest when all the evidence points to him having a lot of control.

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It might point to him having control don't mean it does, just as the Police might have evidence to say that man down the street is a murderer don't mean he is tbh.


Not saying the man Does not have power at the club he does and anyone to deny that would be foolish. However i think he as much power as Fegurson and kenny and Redknapp.

But i don't think he has the board over the barrel, if he did then he would not be looking so stressed, or look like a man fealful for his job.
something deep is going on at the club and it goes beyone Wenger, though he has not helped the situation by being quiet maybe.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

The evidence you provided is as concrete as you're going to get without physically being involved in the running of the club!

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What, an ex-Liverpool player saying it? :lol:

This talk of Wenger being in full control just doesn't make any sense, not from a real world perspective anyway. A guy like Kroenke does not kick in the hundreds of millions required to pay off the shareholders and then turn to the manager and cede all control. That's just not how things work in the business world. What's the point in basing any argument on the idea that Wenger has full control of the club when that can't possibly be true?

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

What, an ex-Liverpool player saying it? :lol:

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Well there's no reason for him to lie is there?

Why would he lie about a tranfer of a player from his club to another club not working out due to financial differences exactly?

Not lie, but how does he know what happens at board level, who handles transfer negotiations, what the transfer budget is, what say Wenger has about that etc, etc.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

This talk of Wenger being in full control just doesn't make any sense, not from a real world perspective anyway. A guy like Kroenke does not kick in the hundreds of millions required to pay off the shareholders and then turn to the manager and cede all control. That's just not how things work in the business world. What's the point in basing any argument on the idea that Wenger has full control of the club when that can't possibly be true?

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I dunno, maybe because if that is the case it's a nice easy fix as we simply sack Wenger but if it's the board and owner at fault then it's very complicated and we're pretty fucked, I know which I'd rather believe.

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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)

Not lie, but how does he know what happens at board level, who handles transfer negotiations, what the transfer budget is, what say Wenger has about that etc, etc.

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He was talking about the Alonso transfer, which I'm sure he knew plenty about.

I don't see any reason to doubt his words here, if he didn't know why would he even say that?

What does he know, that price was the sticking point? Maybe it was but...well, all the stuff I said.
Also see Niall_Quinn's posts as he's putting things better than I can