Arsenal in Crisis????

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

it may seem like we are in crisis now but come august 31st when the window shuts, i dont think we will be. i honestly do not believe wenger is doing fuck all right now, the man is intelligent ffs, we will not be sitting around, he knows what the fans want, he knows the team needs improving. how do we know that with the nasri and clichy deals that we havnt managed to get a player to be involved it in to come to us? we have been linked to lots of players, wenger has shown he is ready to splash out, he bid 16million for jones and there is no blame attached to wenger there for not getting him either.

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By August 31st, we could already be out of the CL :coffee:
"Waiting around" for bigger clubs to make transfers hasn't worked in the past. I think he's waiting to pick off unwanted players from Real Madrid but something tells me that annual player churn will be less this summer.

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Winterburn disregarded with the notion that Arsenal need to make a 'marquee' signing, insisting that the quality of a player is more important than their cost.

But he says the pressure will be on Wenger to get the right bodies in, with Arsenal supporters getting frustrated by the club's lack of progress.

"When Arsenal signed Patrick Viera and Thierry Henry, there was no suggestion of £30million," Winterburn added. "It's about getting the right player for the right money.

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Indeed. And that is exactly what Wenger and Gazidis are saying. They also have said, in effect, that the experiment has not worked and they need to take a different tack. Looks like everyone is in agreement then.

Crisis? Not yet but I'd say this is the biggest turning point at AFC in a while. Player unrest is seemingly at an all-time high. Nasri should be punished for his comments today. It really doesn't help attract the players we need so desperately to attract - quite the opposite in fact. There is no way he should be allowed to make those sort of comments public. He can say what the hell he wants to Wneger and his staff but don't put off potential signings by flaunting how crap we've been in the papers. Not helpful in the slightest. What we need is for our players to look like they are 'one' even if they are not. Cannot believe we have been so slow to get going in the transfer market when our needs are so obvious. Wenger foot shot himself in yet again.

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Sorry Toronto Gooner, your normally the most sensible poster on here but that post was very wide of the mark. Demanding activity is not the same as seeing 3-5 of your best players leaving the squad whilst we haggle and eventually get priced out of reasonable transfer targets.

Ultimately, the club sets expectations with ticket prices. They where high before, higher now. I'd gladly support the club even if we where fighting relegation, but the reason why where pissed is that we have been "paying harrods prices whilst the club shops in primark" - Until this disconnect between the fans expectations and the clubs has been corrected, we will continue to be in crisis

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Wide of the mark? Maybe, but at least it got people talking rather than just putting down a sequence of hyperventilating thoughts. I do not disagree that there are some major problems with the team, the team and the manager that need to be addressed. However, I think that I have a different definition of what is a crisis.

Nothing wrong with Nasri's comments. It won't stop players from coming here. Making a £7m bid for a player worth £10m+ will. The club have hardly sent out the right message with their actions and words and I don't think the players could say anything which people don't already suspect. We lack ambition.

Comments like this a far worse.

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‘One sign of intelligence in life is to not always to want what you don’t have. Appreciate what you have.’

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Wenger is a disgrace. That's an insult to the fans. 'Sign of intelligence', come on now, he's taking the piss. He should have told himself that when he was promoting the need for a new stadium. The prick!

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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10

Crisis? Not yet but I'd say this is the biggest turning point at AFC in a while. Player unrest is seemingly at an all-time high. Nasri should be punished for his comments today. It really doesn't help attract the players we need so desperately to attract - quite the opposite in fact. There is no way he should be allowed to make those sort of comments public. He can say what the hell he wants to Wneger and his staff but don't put off potential signings by flaunting how crap we've been in the papers. Not helpful in the slightest. What we need is for our players to look like they are 'one' even if they are not. Cannot believe we have been so slow to get going in the transfer market when our needs are so obvious. Wenger foot shot himself in yet again.

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I'll go along with the point about it being a major turning point. I'll give Wenger more time in the window to see what he buys but unless there are signs in a change of policy - buying Cahill for a lot of money would be a good indication - then I think next season will see even Wenger fans (like me) saying that it is time to move on.

I think it was OK to give Wenger a chance with the experiment while we were doing the new stadium thing, but it had to get a result or stop at some point and I think maybe we have gone on a bit too long. You can always say 'well, it is nearly there, let's just try this one thing more' each season but at some point you have to call it a day.

I think we should have looked at that last year after another collapse in the final part of the season but who can say - if Chamakh had turned out to be a good buy and scored just a few more, maybe... etc... ... ... but for me, the 4-4 at Newcastle was the time to step back and say we really MUST do something about the backbone. And I think this time, he will. If not, then I am leaving the optimism clique and calling for a change of manager.

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

By August 31st, we could already be out of the CL :coffee:
"Waiting around" for bigger clubs to make transfers hasn't worked in the past. I think he's waiting to pick off unwanted players from Real Madrid but something tells me that annual player churn will be less this summer.

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Dont forget we play Newcastle away, Liverpool and Man Utd all before August 31st, 3 games we were either embarrassed or humiliated in last season so we could be out of the title race by the 31st.

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Originally Posted by Coney

If not, then I am leaving the optimism clique and calling for a change of manager.

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You're not a member though :unsure:.

But you should be.

Resistance is futile.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

You're not a member though :unsure:.

But you should be.

Resistance is futile.

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You are referring to the Mindless Optimism Clique. I am just in the Optimism Clique. ;)

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Originally Posted by Coney

I am just in the Optimism Clique. ;)

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No such thing.

Join us :threaten:

Or be square.