Arsenal in Crisis????

[Ollie the Optimist]

it may seem like we are in crisis now but come august 31st when the window shuts, i dont think we will be. i honestly do not believe wenger is doing fuck all right now, the man is intelligent ffs, we will not be sitting around, he knows what the fans want, he knows the team needs improving. how do we know that with the nasri and clichy deals that we havnt managed to get a player to be involved it in to come to us? we have been linked to lots of players, wenger has shown he is ready to splash out, he bid 16million for jones and there is no blame attached to wenger there for not getting him either.

[Joker]

If we don't replace the players departing with top quality signings, then yes it will definitely be a crisis. Unfortunately, Wenger's peformance in the transfer market in the last few seasons has been abysmal, so I don't have high hopes that he'll get things right this summer.

Ultimately, all this is not surprising when we have a board and manager who put profits before success on the pitch. They are like parasites, leeching from the fans but giving very little back in return apart from empty platitudes.

[Coney]

Winterburn disregarded with the notion that Arsenal need to make a 'marquee' signing, insisting that the quality of a player is more important than their cost.

But he says the pressure will be on Wenger to get the right bodies in, with Arsenal supporters getting frustrated by the club's lack of progress.

"When Arsenal signed Patrick Viera and Thierry Henry, there was no suggestion of £30million," Winterburn added. "It's about getting the right player for the right money.

Indeed. And that is exactly what Wenger and Gazidis are saying. They also have said, in effect, that the experiment has not worked and they need to take a different tack. Looks like everyone is in agreement then.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Crisis? Not yet but I'd say this is the biggest turning point at AFC in a while. Player unrest is seemingly at an all-time high. Nasri should be punished for his comments today. It really doesn't help attract the players we need so desperately to attract - quite the opposite in fact. There is no way he should be allowed to make those sort of comments public. He can say what the hell he wants to Wneger and his staff but don't put off potential signings by flaunting how crap we've been in the papers. Not helpful in the slightest. What we need is for our players to look like they are 'one' even if they are not. Cannot believe we have been so slow to get going in the transfer market when our needs are so obvious. Wenger foot shot himself in yet again.

[Power n Glory]

Nothing wrong with Nasri's comments. It won't stop players from coming here. Making a £7m bid for a player worth £10m+ will. The club have hardly sent out the right message with their actions and words and I don't think the players could say anything which people don't already suspect. We lack ambition.

Comments like this a far worse.

‘One sign of intelligence in life is to not always to want what you don’t have. Appreciate what you have.’

Wenger is a disgrace. That's an insult to the fans. 'Sign of intelligence', come on now, he's taking the piss. He should have told himself that when he was promoting the need for a new stadium. The prick!

[Coney]

Crisis? Not yet but I'd say this is the biggest turning point at AFC in a while. Player unrest is seemingly at an all-time high. Nasri should be punished for his comments today. It really doesn't help attract the players we need so desperately to attract - quite the opposite in fact. There is no way he should be allowed to make those sort of comments public. He can say what the hell he wants to Wneger and his staff but don't put off potential signings by flaunting how crap we've been in the papers. Not helpful in the slightest. What we need is for our players to look like they are 'one' even if they are not. Cannot believe we have been so slow to get going in the transfer market when our needs are so obvious. Wenger foot shot himself in yet again.

I'll go along with the point about it being a major turning point. I'll give Wenger more time in the window to see what he buys but unless there are signs in a change of policy - buying Cahill for a lot of money would be a good indication - then I think next season will see even Wenger fans (like me) saying that it is time to move on.

I think it was OK to give Wenger a chance with the experiment while we were doing the new stadium thing, but it had to get a result or stop at some point and I think maybe we have gone on a bit too long. You can always say 'well, it is nearly there, let's just try this one thing more' each season but at some point you have to call it a day.

I think we should have looked at that last year after another collapse in the final part of the season but who can say - if Chamakh had turned out to be a good buy and scored just a few more, maybe... etc... ... ... but for me, the 4-4 at Newcastle was the time to step back and say we really MUST do something about the backbone. And I think this time, he will. If not, then I am leaving the optimism clique and calling for a change of manager.

[Master Splinter]

If not, then I am leaving the optimism clique and calling for a change of manager.

You're not a member though .

But you should be.

Resistance is futile.

[Coney]

You're not a member though .

But you should be.

Resistance is futile.

You are referring to the Mindless Optimism Clique. I am just in the Optimism Clique.

[Kano]

it's definitely a crisis when you let yourself get gassed up by the media in all its forms. too much (mis)information out there means that people think they know what is going on when really we have no clue at all.

for all the criticism a lot of fans throw at the media, its hilarious how many dont realise how they held by the nuts by them.

[Newguy]

it's definitely a crisis when you let yourself get gassed up by the media in all its forms. too much (mis)information out there means that people think they know what is going on when really we have no clue at all.

for all the criticism a lot of fans throw at the media, its hilarious how many dont realise how they held by the nuts by them.

I dont think the issue is the media, what is coming out of the club is that there is unrest, I dont think we can pull the "it's the media" card on this one.

Cesc wants out, Clichy wants out (12 months left on contract), Nasri possibly looking at options (12 months left on contract), Arshavin, Theo and RvP with only 2 years left on their contracts - these are problems because if the former 3 leave, the latter 3 will not sign, due to the clubs lack of sporting ambition, when you add to the fact that nothing being said on the contrary regarding these issues are coming from the club then I think unfortunately, the only one gassed right now is you.

Stories can be made up, but the stories concerning our players are IMO scenarios based on logical assessments due to the problems at Arsenal right now. If these stories were about the other lot down the road, I'd be saying that team is in a mad crisis right now.

Many of you "it's the media" guys really need to take note. if Cesc, nasri and Clichy go, then RvP will leave without the club heavily investing in the squad, most likely followed by Walcott. We will see how this transfer window turns out, hopefully we keep Cesc and Nasri and still add to the squad with the quality it needs and release the dead wood everyone and their mum knows needs to be kicked out the club, but based on previous experience with Wenger and this board it's unlikely that this will happen, hence the "Arsenal in Crisis??" thread title. Now if you guys feel that the stories coming out by the media is nothing to worry about please let me know what you know so I can experience this level of confidence.....