We need a world class centre back in the summer to play alongside Koscielny.
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We need a world class centre back in the summer to play alongside Koscielny.
Plenty of blame to go around, I'd argue that he's not even that good a shot stopper. He's fine if the shots at the right height. But his positioning is awful, he flaps at things and his distribution is poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Koscielny has always been poor dealing with aerial balls, Gabriel I think he needs refresher training on basic defending.
Monreal looked like a chump yesterday and really the whole thing was a tactical blunder as defence played too deep.
We made Andy Carroll look decent when he really isn't.
He's not the first and won't be the last oaf to look like a world beater against us. Our soft centre is common knowledge and regularly exploited. Throw in our inability to shake out of it when put on the ropes and you have a recipe for disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
The frustrating thing is, it looked really comfortable at 0-2.
Then they get a goal out of nothing and we just shit the bed.
What does Bould actually do? Anyone know?
Because when you see our fullbacks and defensive midfield leave such huge gaps on the flanks, all but inviting the opponent to measure up the cross, and then you see the generosity repeated from the lads in the box you just know it's some sort of fucked up defensive tactic in play. We know the players aren't poor or, as they often appear in key situations, inept.
Bould. :lol:
He's there to hold the clipboard.
I do wonder how often we will have to see ospina standing behind his line before it is coached out of him.
Carroll was always going to outjump everyone on the field so the tactic should have been to stop the crosses.
And I know I say it all the time but Payet is brilliant.
I've never understood the idea that it can't possibly get any worse with a different manager......
Of course it bloody can.... :lol: did anybody not see mourinho do his best to get Chelsea relegated?
It could get worse but one thing is for certain, it isn't going to get better with him in charge.
There's risk in replacing the manager, of course there is.
But it's risk that we need to take.
Sure, it doesn't mean we shouldn't try and get better in but we all know he will honour his contract.
Does anybody think he will just go and win something next season just to arouse a bit of doubt about it being his final season!
He might pick up a cup. Anything beyond that?
No.
That's right, but the trouble with Wenger's stock being SO low right now (frankly it's far out of proportion to how 'bad' things are, just last year we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup, this year we've failed to push on and we really we should have) is it leads to woolly thinking about how Wenger is such an incompetent that anyone would come in and we'd do better. That's balls. Obviously. We need to replace him but with someone who can credibly push us on, and that's fewer people than many on here suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
Okay so let's say he's not incompetent (despite a decade of evidence). Incompetent as in, not competent to do the job he is paid handsomely to do. In fact I find it incredible that anyone can still claim he's competent, but let's pretend he is. Is there anyone apart from Wenger, gingergirl and Ty who thinks Wenger can move this club on? Surely not. So we HAVE to get rid of him, it's not an option. He has to go. Saying it will be tough to find a replacement is not a reason to keep him here. And does anyone really think it will be tough to find a decent manager to come to London and manage Arsenal FC? The only tough part in that will be organising so many job interviews for eager candidates.
Of course we know that Wenger will cling on for at least one more pay day despite the harm he's doing to the club. So we're stuck with him for another year. But if the fans don't step up and make that one tough year there's every chance he'll wrangle another contract and then we're totally fucked.
Judge him at the end of the season was the request. Here we are. Season over. He's fucked it again. Surprise, surprise. Now the work to get him out should begin in earnest because this guy isn't going unless he's shoved. Next season needs to be the season of relentless protest.
Decade. Yes, once again 2 years ago you were happy about him getting a new contract. So stop pretending you think he's done a consistently bad job over the last decade.
And you know I'm also of the opinion that he needs to go, so I'm not sure what the point of the rest of your post is.
Happy for him to build on that moment, not plunge the club to new lows. And I'm starting to see you only say he should go because you know he's not going. You defend him at every turn and then say he should go. It's odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
1) who is ginger girl?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
2) it will be difficult to replace him because the only person whose opinion of Wenger matters wants him to stay.
Suspect the board are quite happy with spuds thrashing United. 4th place trophy is now pretty much secure.
No chance of Wenger being moved on as a result, so this is a bit of a pointless debate.
1) GingergirlQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHg3qDeCVew
2) Hence a year of protest. If the fans are dumb enough to go into yet another season thinking we can compete then they probably deserve Wenger.
There was never a chance of that happening anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by RomfordPele
Paying fans who want Wenger out have a decision to make ahead of renewals coming soon.
We'll probably buy a few players this summer and that will grant him another reprieve. Come August Letters will be saying this is his last chance and off we go again into another season of so much promise that won't even come close to meeting expectation.
That's the sad thing, we know that whoever we buy (unless we buy Messi and Suarez) it won't make a difference wenger will find a way to bottle it. He is the reason we didn't win it this year, he has cost us another title (along with the one two years ago where he should have signed a striker) .
Next season will be like going on a long road trip on an old banger, you know it will let you down sooner or later and you won't get to where you want to.
I'm renewing my Silver membership because it takes forever to upgrade from Red. I don't plan on attending many games though, bollocks to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
They don't want you, they want your money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
That is true.
My irrational love for this club. :(
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Interesting that you think that the second one will make any difference, Wenger is there as long as Kroenke wants him there, fans don't attend matches?? No worries they can be replaced with fans who will or tourists who will. Plus the TV money is so high that it mitigates for any decrease in gate receipts.
If Wenger wants to stay beyond 2017 he will.
This is the sad thing, knowing full well we won't win the league next season when a ball hasn't even been kicked. Sad times these days, it's not even like we don't have a decent enough squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Are you wringing your hands and knashing your teeth saying Wenger is incompetent? Wooly thinking indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
So just shut up and take it in other words. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If you give up the Silver now, you will have a near eternal memory of Wenger's last xteen seasons of rinse and repeat whenever you don't manage to get a ticket because of your shitty Red membership.
I defend him against the bile and the bullshit, nothing else. Part of the bullshit being 'new lows', of course. We're going to finish top 4, stop being ridiculous. Or nonsense like he's 'an imbecile' (Weekend games thread). I hope you appreciate the irony of you lamenting why things have to be pushed "to extreme" ('Who will win the league' thread) when you spout this sort of silliness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I've been completely consistent. I said I'd judge him at the end of the season and while we're not there yet we're close enough to see we're not going to win the league and given that we're still a good month to go and the sides likely to finish above us, yes he should go. That doesn't mean that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING he does is wrong. But if he can't win the league this year then he clearly never will and with our resources now there's no excuse not to be challenging.
So the constant money excuses are not you? Somebody hacking your account? Nobody said absolutely everything he does is wrong. You made that up as another demonstration of forcing all criticism out to the extreme fringe so you can knock is down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
imbecile - Cambridge English Dictionary
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/imbecile
imbecile meaning, definition, what is imbecile: a person who behaves in a stupid way
Who could possibly argue that Wenger is not an imbecile? On what grounds would you present such an argument?
You should hear yourself. Have a look at the match thread in the Watford game, whining about the substitutions he made (when we were comfortably winning, two of those substitutes then combined for our 4th goal), or in another match reaction thread (I forget which one) when you said that literally anyone would come in and we'd do better. You're coming across increasingly Zim-like, it's like you have a complete hatred for the man and just cannot help but criticise everything he says or does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Exhibit A, the title and first post of Match Reaction thread after a good away win:
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3556
So yes, I will defend him against that sort of balls. But I do think he should go. Those things are completely consistent.
And the money thing is talking about a time when we couldn't compete financially with the 'dopers', as you dub them. In that period it was reasonable to have somewhat lower expectations of the club (which doesn't mean we shouldn't have done better at times). But now the money is there, we're able to sign players like Ozil and Sanchez, it's yielded 2 FA Cups which was a good start but we needed to push on and we haven't. So he should go. That doesn't mean I need to act like he shagged my mum and wiped his cock on the curtains on his way out.
Oh well - the dropped points don't mean much after today's results. Pretty much beyond caring now anyway...
With Leicester and Spurs on course to finish above us and clinch the title, it's a new low for us. We're not getting any better in the league despite adding more top quality players and spending more money. We finished on 79 points the season we signed Ozil. Following season we finished on 75 points despite adding Sanchez. Highest we can get this season is 77 and that's if we win all.our games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Too right! Let's hope Leicester don't fuck it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Ah, so you've decided my criticism of his ongoing managerial failures is bile and bullshit? We're sitting here 13 points off Leicester City, Ozil and Alexis and all, and this weekend we've really pushed the boat out to all but guarantee a finish below the spuds, but that's hardly justification for calling the architect incompetent. Doing so would be to "act like he shagged my mum and wiped his cock on the curtains on his way out."Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I guess Wenger must be competent then. Is that what you are saying? So competent, in fact, you believe he should leave the club. Is that the complete consistency you are talking about?
I'm not going to sit here and listen to that sort of bile and bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory