West Ham away (PL) Match Reaction Thread

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm renewing my Silver membership because it takes forever to upgrade from Red. I don't plan on attending many games though, bollocks to them.

Same here.

If you give up the Silver now, you will have a near eternal memory of Wenger's last xteen seasons of rinse and repeat whenever you don't manage to get a ticket because of your shitty Red membership.

[Letters]

Happy for him to build on that moment, not plunge the club to new lows. And I'm starting to see you only say he should go because you know he's not going. You defend him at every turn and then say he should go. It's odd.

I defend him against the bile and the bullshit, nothing else. Part of the bullshit being 'new lows', of course. We're going to finish top 4, stop being ridiculous. Or nonsense like he's 'an imbecile' (Weekend games thread). I hope you appreciate the irony of you lamenting why things have to be pushed "to extreme" ('Who will win the league' thread) when you spout this sort of silliness.

I've been completely consistent. I said I'd judge him at the end of the season and while we're not there yet we're close enough to see we're not going to win the league and given that we're still a good month to go and the sides likely to finish above us, yes he should go. That doesn't mean that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING he does is wrong. But if he can't win the league this year then he clearly never will and with our resources now there's no excuse not to be challenging.

[Niall_Quinn]

I defend him against the bile and the bullshit, nothing else. Part of the bullshit being 'new lows', of course. We're going to finish top 4, stop being ridiculous. Or nonsense like he's 'an imbecile' (Weekend games thread). I hope you appreciate the irony of you lamenting why things have to be pushed "to extreme" ('Who will win the league' thread) when you spout this sort of silliness.

I've been completely consistent. I said I'd judge him at the end of the season and while we're not there yet we're close enough to see we're not going to win the league and given that we're still a good month to go and the sides likely to finish above us, yes he should go. That doesn't mean that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING he does is wrong. But if he can't win the league this year then he clearly never will and with our resources now there's no excuse not to be challenging.

So the constant money excuses are not you? Somebody hacking your account? Nobody said absolutely everything he does is wrong. You made that up as another demonstration of forcing all criticism out to the extreme fringe so you can knock is down.

[Niall_Quinn]

imbecile - Cambridge English Dictionary
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/imbecile
imbecile meaning, definition, what is imbecile: a person who behaves in a stupid way

Who could possibly argue that Wenger is not an imbecile? On what grounds would you present such an argument?

[Letters]

Nobody said absolutely everything he does is wrong. You made that up as another demonstration of forcing all criticism out to the extreme fringe so you can knock is down.

You should hear yourself. Have a look at the match thread in the Watford game, whining about the substitutions he made (when we were comfortably winning, two of those substitutes then combined for our 4th goal), or in another match reaction thread (I forget which one) when you said that literally anyone would come in and we'd do better. You're coming across increasingly Zim-like, it's like you have a complete hatred for the man and just cannot help but criticise everything he says or does.
Exhibit A, the title and first post of Match Reaction thread after a good away win:

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3556

So yes, I will defend him against that sort of balls. But I do think he should go. Those things are completely consistent.

And the money thing is talking about a time when we couldn't compete financially with the 'dopers', as you dub them. In that period it was reasonable to have somewhat lower expectations of the club (which doesn't mean we shouldn't have done better at times). But now the money is there, we're able to sign players like Ozil and Sanchez, it's yielded 2 FA Cups which was a good start but we needed to push on and we haven't. So he should go. That doesn't mean I need to act like he shagged my mum and wiped his cock on the curtains on his way out.

[IBK]

Oh well - the dropped points don't mean much after today's results. Pretty much beyond caring now anyway...

[Power n Glory]

I defend him against the bile and the bullshit, nothing else. Part of the bullshit being 'new lows', of course. We're going to finish top 4, stop being ridiculous. Or nonsense like he's 'an imbecile' (Weekend games thread). I hope you appreciate the irony of you lamenting why things have to be pushed "to extreme" ('Who will win the league' thread) when you spout this sort of silliness.

I've been completely consistent. I said I'd judge him at the end of the season and while we're not there yet we're close enough to see we're not going to win the league and given that we're still a good month to go and the sides likely to finish above us, yes he should go. That doesn't mean that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING he does is wrong. But if he can't win the league this year then he clearly never will and with our resources now there's no excuse not to be challenging.

With Leicester and Spurs on course to finish above us and clinch the title, it's a new low for us. We're not getting any better in the league despite adding more top quality players and spending more money. We finished on 79 points the season we signed Ozil. Following season we finished on 75 points despite adding Sanchez. Highest we can get this season is 77 and that's if we win all.our games.

[Chippy]

Oh well - the dropped points don't mean much after today's results. Pretty much beyond caring now anyway...

Too right! Let's hope Leicester don't fuck it up!

[Niall_Quinn]

You should hear yourself. Have a look at the match thread in the Watford game, whining about the substitutions he made (when we were comfortably winning, two of those substitutes then combined for our 4th goal), or in another match reaction thread (I forget which one) when you said that literally anyone would come in and we'd do better. You're coming across increasingly Zim-like, it's like you have a complete hatred for the man and just cannot help but criticise everything he says or does.
Exhibit A, the title and first post of Match Reaction thread after a good away win:

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3556

So yes, I will defend him against that sort of balls. But I do think he should go. Those things are completely consistent.

And the money thing is talking about a time when we couldn't compete financially with the 'dopers', as you dub them. In that period it was reasonable to have somewhat lower expectations of the club (which doesn't mean we shouldn't have done better at times). But now the money is there, we're able to sign players like Ozil and Sanchez, it's yielded 2 FA Cups which was a good start but we needed to push on and we haven't. So he should go. That doesn't mean I need to act like he shagged my mum and wiped his cock on the curtains on his way out.

Ah, so you've decided my criticism of his ongoing managerial failures is bile and bullshit? We're sitting here 13 points off Leicester City, Ozil and Alexis and all, and this weekend we've really pushed the boat out to all but guarantee a finish below the spuds, but that's hardly justification for calling the architect incompetent. Doing so would be to "act like he shagged my mum and wiped his cock on the curtains on his way out."

I guess Wenger must be competent then. Is that what you are saying? So competent, in fact, you believe he should leave the club. Is that the complete consistency you are talking about?

[Niall_Quinn]

With Leicester and Spurs on course to finish above us and clinch the title, it's a new low for us. We're not getting any better in the league despite adding more top quality players and spending more money. We finished on 79 points the season we signed Ozil. Following season we finished on 75 points despite adding Sanchez. Highest we can get this season is 77 and that's if we win all.our games.

I'm not going to sit here and listen to that sort of bile and bullshit.