Bendtner wants to leave

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Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng

Yes. And what's more which other of his project players have really, really justified not just the investment in them, but the fact that we haven't signed players at crucial times so as not to hamper their development? Honestly - I'm struggling to think.

Even the king of them all, Cesc, has 'repaid' us lately with tepid, disinterested performances. He is following a well-trodden path of captains who leave us as shadows of their former selves. Nasri seems intent on following the Adebayor/Flamini/Hleb model - break through and then believe the hype and believe that the club is beneath you.

Is there not some point at which a rational manager would realise that its not working...

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It's because the players can see first hand that what they are drilled on week in week out doesn't work on a football pitch.

I mean, Cesc may say "we want to play the way the game should be played", but when you see players like Bendy playing out of position, when you see Theo looking bewildered on the wing when he's a striker, when you see players forced to play that one specific game....there'll come a point where they don't believe in it anymore.

The more I think about it. The more I think Wenger DOES shout and drill his team hard. But he only drills them in one thing. Passing. Everything else is left to chance.

When it doesn't work, and we don't win games, and we don't win silverware, BECAUSE we fail to do anything else...that philosophy of "Beautiful" football that attracted the players in the first place, has only served to make the team devoid of belief.

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

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Originally Posted by LDG

It's because the players can see first hand that what they are drilled on week in week out doesn't work on a football pitch.

I mean, Cesc may say "we want to play the way the game should be played", but when you see players like Bendy playing out of position, when you see Theo looking bewildered on the wing when he's a striker, when you see players forced to play that one specific game....there'll come a point where they don't believe in it anymore.

The more I think about it. The more I think Wenger DOES shout and drill his team hard. But he only drills them in one thing. Passing. Everything else is left to chance.

When it doesn't work, and we don't win games, and we don't win silverware, BECAUSE we fail to do anything else...that philosophy of "Beautiful" football that attracted the players in the first place, has only served to make the team devoid of belief.

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

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I agree with all of that. :gp:

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Originally Posted by LDG

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

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Interesting comment, and with regard to RvP I would agree somewhat, although he does not take over a match often enough and his free kicks suck.

However, with regard to Fabregas, I will have to disagree very strongly. I do not think that he can take over and control a game on his own. He requires others to make things happen: that is why I would quite readily sell him.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I wouldn't mind Theo being pushed up front. He's had enough games now and he's pretty sharp in front of goal when he puts his mind to it. We're bringing in another tippy-tapster on the wing anyway aren't we? We haven't got anyone who can cross a ball and even if we did Wenger has a passion for playing our big guys on the wing. So that just leaves pace through the middle and Theo has bags of that.

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Agreed. Theo is much improved in front of goal and I reckon him and RVP could form a scary partnership for defenders. Only problem is injuries..

You know the wierdest thing is I think we can bring in £20mil and lose £200-300k from the wage budget and not even feel it

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Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo

You know the wierdest thing is I think we can bring in £20mil and lose £200-300k from the wage budget and not even feel it

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So long as they send the lost £200-300k my way, I can accept that.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

So long as they send the lost £200-300k my way, I can accept that.

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Seriously though look...

Out go Rosicky (Free), Almunia (free), Bentdner (10-15mil) and Denilson (5ml) plus the likes of Randall, JET and Eastmond and thats going to be the £20mil odd and the wages gone.

Replace them with Lansbury, Mannone, Afobe, Coquelin and Frimpong and we are quids in, normally i wouldnt dream of replacing players like this but the harsh reality is those listed offer very, very little to the team and therefore CAN be replaced by the kids, Lansbury and Afobe look to have that bit extra fight and aggression that will see them straight and Frimpong is a bloody headcase.

If we are going wild, and i think we will, Squilvestre could be replaced by Bartley as well. Thats another £40k a week gone.

Valid points but not so long ago, JET and Eastmond were being touted as the future of Arsenal.

If he wants to leave good luck to him, If someone gives us money for him more fool them imo

good luck to mr bendtner...i actually think a move would be best for all concerned.

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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner

Valid points but not so long ago, JET and Eastmond were being touted as the future of Arsenal.

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JET seems to have the same problem as Diaby in that he cant decide where he wants to play and is betrayed by his size.

Eastmond is wank from what i have seen but i hope he proves me wrong

2 down 18 to go...

Now Bendtner wants to leave. It´s good they say it because, if it were for Wenger, they´d stay indefinitely, regardless of how much they play. The guy is incapable of telling them they´re not in his plans anymore it seems, which is a dangerous thing. The exodus of players will hopefully force him to dig into the market, at last. :banghead:

Unless he sees it as a chance for our teenagers to start gaining PL experience. :doh:

I'm with you there... Though, I reckon if Denilson was given a good chance to play at LB for a while, then I reckon he would have become as good as Flamini in his last season with us...

I liked Bendter. I thought he was going to be a decent prospect however his big mouth did him no favors nor did being played on the wing. Seriously, what the hell was Wenger smoking when he thought of this?? Only a man in the depths of a peyote induced delusional episode would think that this is a good idea.

Bendtner will go on and do well with another team that is better suited for him. He was too slow and clumsy for our style. Now is the time to bring in a proper striker. Someone with pace and a good finish preferably.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I think Bendtner potentially going leaves a spot open up front and we have all been calling for a striker so I think that's a cause for optimism. We can't possibly start next year with just RVP can we? With Chamakh, Vela and Afobe in reserve? Surely not?

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That is exactly what is going to happen. Wenger will spend the whole summer trying to buy a star replacement, but will refuse to spend the money needed to close any deals. Then, AW will promote Afobe,and say he has 4 'good' strikers and doesn't need any new signings.

Wenger needs to go before things will change for the better.

Bendtner will go to AC Milan.

Or Stoke.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

I liked Bendter. I thought he was going to be a decent prospect however his big mouth did him no favors nor did being played on the wing. Seriously, what the hell was Wenger smoking when he thought of this?? Only a man in the depths of a peyote induced delusional episode would think that this is a good idea.

Bendtner will go on and do well with another team that is better suited for him. He was too slow and clumsy for our style. Now is the time to bring in a proper striker. Someone with pace and a good finish preferably.

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Striker? Lets just assume for fun that we are going to get David Villa or may be even Drogba (in his prime) or Anelka (again in his prime) OR may be even TH14 (in his prime). Where are you going to play them if RVP is down the middle? Would the above mentioned players be as effective on the right or left like how Bendy has been used? I dont think so!

Now dont get me wrong. Bendy is miles from being close to those players but I do think this guy is very good. I think when he plays a few games down the middle, he is very effective. If he is played with another striker in a 4-4-2, I think he will be very effective... we can call out for all the greatest strikers in the world but with our style of play, not a whole lot is going to work.*

* I am not counting Messi and Ronaldo as they can be scoring bucket loads of goals even as a GK!!

Id put RVP in the DB10 position. Let whoever Villa, Drogba, Anelka, Benzema play off the left shoulder like TH14. It would work no question. This idea that you need a big battering ram upfront is nonsense in my opinon.

We need someone who can finish. If hes a big battering ram then great cos he wont be bullied out of games but ultimately we need a finisher and other than RVP, we dont have one so when RVP is out next season again for a few months, we are screwed unless Chamakh comes good.

As for good old Bendtner, id say id miss him but id be lying.

Just throwing this out there...

What about Drogba? :unsure:

Well it'll stop him scoring against us so thats a plus.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Just throwing this out there...

What about Drogba? :unsure:

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I'd be happy if we signed him. He knows how to score and he's big.

But it won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Well it'll stop him scoring against us so thats a plus.

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He'll score own goals instead.

The only way I can see Bendy fitting in at Bayern is as a direct replacement for Klose - he hasn't got the subtlety or composure, maybe they think they can channel what he has into something, but sounds more like lazy journo's.

Bendy would be better off as a battering-ram GHEL Kevin Davies style player putting himself about for Stoke, Bolton, Sunderland or Blackburn. I see a return to Brum on loan next season followed by a Jan xfer, hatful of goals and them cashing in on him in June ala Upson.

Bendtner is the biggest cunt to play for arsenal. I wouldnt mind it so much if he backed up his gobbyness with performances on the pitch, at best hes a poor mans alan smith.

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Originally Posted by north bank nutter

Bendtner is the biggest cunt to play for arsenal. I wouldnt mind it so much if he backed up his gobbyness with performances on the pitch, at best hes a poor mans alan smith.

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I suppose it would help if he was palyed in the right posititon as well. I suppose it would help if AW let him know where his level is by getting another top striker in. IMO now is time for him to leave and start a fresh.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

I suppose it would help if he was palyed in the right posititon as well. I suppose it would help if AW let him know where his level is by getting another top striker in. IMO now is time for him to leave and start a fresh.

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A couple of games back where he was on the pitch with that Moroccan turd we actually got a few crosses into the box but both of them were sat outside watching the action (or lack of it). Just because he's on the wing doesn't mean he can't show a bit of inventiveness and get in the box when a cross comes over. When he does bother he's hopeless unless the ball literally bounces off his head. All in all he's been a huge waste of the club's time for years. This is a club that's had Wrighty, Anelka and Henry up front, don't forget. How does a mediocre lump like Bendtner fit into that picture?

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

A couple of games back where he was on the pitch with that Moroccan turd we actually got a few crosses into the box but both of them were sat outside watching the action (or lack of it). Just because he's on the wing doesn't mean he can't show a bit of inventiveness and get in the box when a cross comes over. When he does bother he's hopeless unless the ball literally bounces off his head. All in all he's been a huge waste of the club's time for years. This is a club that's had Wrighty, Anelka and Henry up front, don't forget. How does a mediocre lump like Bendtner fit into that picture?

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yeah so true

Bendtner's stats (goals in starts) over the last four season:

Starts (Goals)

14 (8)
19 (12)
27 (14)
13 (9)

Let's not forget a lot of those were on the wing and he's rarely been given a run in the team. Those stats are (roughly) a goal every two starts, a figure better than various strikers that have played for us in the past - Wiltord, Kanu, Eduardo, Chamakh... just as good as Henry in his last season for us and better than Bergkamp in his last five seasons for us. It's also a better ratio than the likes of Kalou, Anelka, Torres, Drogba and Rooney (this season obv)

He's not a player suited to our one touch play sure, but if we played to his strengths he'd be able to do reasonably well. The issue is that he's first choice backup... I'd like us to play a 4-4-2 and pair him with someone and then we could judge him properly.

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Originally Posted by north bank nutter

Bendtner is the biggest cunt to play for arsenal. I wouldnt mind it so much if he backed up his gobbyness with performances on the pitch, at best hes a poor mans alan smith.

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You're an awful supporter. A real fan would get behind all the players.

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...and better than Bergkamp in his last five seasons for us

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And that's exactly why stats like these are absolutely meaningless. I don't care how many times the turd has let the ball ricochet off his arse into the net, we used to have decent players at this club now we have him. This, not surprisingly, has coincided with us going from a winning team to a steaming pile. Good players, win, bad players, lose, so obvious it could take your eye out.

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Originally Posted by The Wengerbabies

You're an awful supporter. A real fan would get behind all the players.

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I agree with this. The fans should get behind the players as much as the players get behind the fans.

What fans????? Whodat????? Give MONEY!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

And that's exactly why stats like these are absolutely meaningless. I don't care how many times the turd has let the ball ricochet off his arse into the net, we used to have decent players at this club now we have him. This, not surprisingly, has coincided with us going from a winning team to a steaming pile. Good players, win, bad players, lose, so obvious it could take your eye out.

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Two sayings that have been rendered as meaningless as a super-injunction include 'Wenger Knows' and 'Arsenal quality'.

If 'Arsenal Quality' was a term that still existed, we'd never have let Diaby, Denilson, Almunia, Bentdner, Squillaci, Gibbs, Fabianski, Adebayor, Chamakh anywhere near the team.

As a direct consequence, we're being linked to the likes of Scott Parker this close season. Scott f***in Parker. The best player in a team that finished bottom in the league. That says it all.

Bendtners kack. No pace, no first touch, no close control and little positional instinct.

He's 23 but players at a similar age like benzema totally shit on him, lack of starts or not, he just doesnt suit the team. His problem not ours and we shouldn't be bending over backwards to pander to maladjusted youths.

funny if Shaktar buy him and play him and eddie up top of a 4-4-2...

However i think Newcastle is his likely destination or maybe Sunderland

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Bendtners kack. No pace, no first touch, no close control and little positional instinct.

He's 23 but players at a similar age like benzema totally shit on him, lack of starts or not, he just doesnt suit the team. His problem not ours and we shouldn't be bending over backwards to pander to maladjusted youths.

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Yeah trouble is we have a 26 year old version who we need to get rid of too.

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Nicklas Bendtner is worth €11million (£9.6m), according to the Arsenal striker's father.

The Denmark international has been linked with Bundesliga giants Bayern Munich amid manager Arsene Wenger's ongoing interest in Real Madrid's Karim Benzema.

But Bendtner's father and agent, Thomas, does not believe that the forward would leave Emirates Stadium in a cut-price deal.
Bendtner has himself never been shy in talking up his own ability and his dad believes that the player is worth a fee of just less than £10m.

"One hundred million crowns (approx €11million)," Thomas Bendtner told Danish newspaper B.T when asked about Nicklas' valuation.

"He has been valued higher before. But of course, if you are on the bench the price goes down.

"Nicklas has the qualities to live up to this sum and we can certainly find a club that is willing to pay."

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...960633,00.html

Would any team be crazy enough to pay that for a shite player?

Should have sold him to Newcastle for 15mill pounds when we had the chance...

He'd get on with the Geordies, the best striker in the world playing for the greatest team in the world.