Bendtner wants to leave

[LDG]

Yes. And what's more which other of his project players have really, really justified not just the investment in them, but the fact that we haven't signed players at crucial times so as not to hamper their development? Honestly - I'm struggling to think.

Even the king of them all, Cesc, has 'repaid' us lately with tepid, disinterested performances. He is following a well-trodden path of captains who leave us as shadows of their former selves. Nasri seems intent on following the Adebayor/Flamini/Hleb model - break through and then believe the hype and believe that the club is beneath you.

Is there not some point at which a rational manager would realise that its not working...

It's because the players can see first hand that what they are drilled on week in week out doesn't work on a football pitch.

I mean, Cesc may say "we want to play the way the game should be played", but when you see players like Bendy playing out of position, when you see Theo looking bewildered on the wing when he's a striker, when you see players forced to play that one specific game....there'll come a point where they don't believe in it anymore.

The more I think about it. The more I think Wenger DOES shout and drill his team hard. But he only drills them in one thing. Passing. Everything else is left to chance.

When it doesn't work, and we don't win games, and we don't win silverware, BECAUSE we fail to do anything else...that philosophy of "Beautiful" football that attracted the players in the first place, has only served to make the team devoid of belief.

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

[IBK]

It's because the players can see first hand that what they are drilled on week in week out doesn't work on a football pitch.

I mean, Cesc may say "we want to play the way the game should be played", but when you see players like Bendy playing out of position, when you see Theo looking bewildered on the wing when he's a striker, when you see players forced to play that one specific game....there'll come a point where they don't believe in it anymore.

The more I think about it. The more I think Wenger DOES shout and drill his team hard. But he only drills them in one thing. Passing. Everything else is left to chance.

When it doesn't work, and we don't win games, and we don't win silverware, BECAUSE we fail to do anything else...that philosophy of "Beautiful" football that attracted the players in the first place, has only served to make the team devoid of belief.

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

I agree with all of that.

[Toronto Gooner]

Only RVP and Cesc could probably make something happen themselves. The rest rely on each other. And when it doesn't work, it must be soul destroying if you work so hard at it each week.

Interesting comment, and with regard to RvP I would agree somewhat, although he does not take over a match often enough and his free kicks suck.

However, with regard to Fabregas, I will have to disagree very strongly. I do not think that he can take over and control a game on his own. He requires others to make things happen: that is why I would quite readily sell him.

[Titi14]

I wouldn't mind Theo being pushed up front. He's had enough games now and he's pretty sharp in front of goal when he puts his mind to it. We're bringing in another tippy-tapster on the wing anyway aren't we? We haven't got anyone who can cross a ball and even if we did Wenger has a passion for playing our big guys on the wing. So that just leaves pace through the middle and Theo has bags of that.

Agreed. Theo is much improved in front of goal and I reckon him and RVP could form a scary partnership for defenders. Only problem is injuries..

[Flavs]

You know the wierdest thing is I think we can bring in £20mil and lose £200-300k from the wage budget and not even feel it

[Toronto Gooner]

You know the wierdest thing is I think we can bring in £20mil and lose £200-300k from the wage budget and not even feel it

So long as they send the lost £200-300k my way, I can accept that.

[Flavs]

So long as they send the lost £200-300k my way, I can accept that.

Seriously though look...

Out go Rosicky (Free), Almunia (free), Bentdner (10-15mil) and Denilson (5ml) plus the likes of Randall, JET and Eastmond and thats going to be the £20mil odd and the wages gone.

Replace them with Lansbury, Mannone, Afobe, Coquelin and Frimpong and we are quids in, normally i wouldnt dream of replacing players like this but the harsh reality is those listed offer very, very little to the team and therefore CAN be replaced by the kids, Lansbury and Afobe look to have that bit extra fight and aggression that will see them straight and Frimpong is a bloody headcase.

If we are going wild, and i think we will, Squilvestre could be replaced by Bartley as well. Thats another £40k a week gone.

[Toronto Gooner]

Valid points but not so long ago, JET and Eastmond were being touted as the future of Arsenal.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If he wants to leave good luck to him, If someone gives us money for him more fool them imo

[fari]

good luck to mr bendtner...i actually think a move would be best for all concerned.