Arsenal v Man City Carling Cup - Quarter Final Tuesday 29th November 2011 8.00pm SKY SPORTS

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Originally Posted by Ach

Will be good to see Nasri again

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This was on Arseblog. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Ach

Yes cos Kos has been so great for us :doh:

Im not even going to debate Jenkinson.

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I'm not sure you know what a 'debate' consists of.

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Originally Posted by Coney

This was on Arseblog. :lol:

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:lol:

Although should put a few trophies in there as well..

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Originally Posted by GB.

I'm not sure you know what a 'debate' consists of.

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First ever winner of the best debator award on GW says different tbh

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Originally Posted by Ach

:lol:

Although should put a few trophies in there as well..

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Yeah, trophies won and earned by the other mercenaries in the squad.

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Originally Posted by Ach

First ever winner of the best debator award on GW says different tbh

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I won funniest poster and best poster of the year and I reckon you don't know shit about debating.

And as 'the best' I'm clearly right.

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Originally Posted by GB.

I won funniest poster and best poster of the year and I reckon you don't know shit about debating.

And as 'the best' I'm clearly right.

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That is your opinion and i respect it

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Originally Posted by GB.

I won funniest poster and best poster of the year and I reckon you don't know shit about debating.

And as 'the best' I'm clearly right.

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As the best poster of the year before you were, I'll agree.

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Originally Posted by Ach

:lol:

Although should put a few trophies in there as well..

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why whats he won? or was their a competition for city players over who could anger their old clubs fans the most?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

why whats he won? or was their a competition for city players over who could anger their old clubs fans the most?

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He went there to win trophies.

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Originally Posted by Ach

He went there to win trophies.

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do you get medals for sitting on a bench counting your money then?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...our-ex-players

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Arsène Wenger wants Arsenal's supporters to show respect for the Club's former players when they return to Emirates Stadium.

Tuesday night's Carling Cup Quarter-Final against Manchester City may see Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy make their first appearances against the team they left in the summer while Kolo Toure could also feature.

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Clichy, Toure - should get a good response.

Nasri? Sorry Arsene. He will get the appropriate respect, but the emphasis will be on 'appropriate'.

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Originally Posted by Coney

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Clichy, Toure - should get a good response.

Nasri? Sorry Arsene. He will get the appropriate respect, but the emphasis will be on 'appropriate'.

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no hard feelings for kolo or clichy. both gave their all when here, never moaned, and you could always count on them giving every ounce of effort they could everytime they pulled on the shirt.


nasri is a judas money grabbing cunt and should get the respect that a judas money grabbing cunt deserves

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Clichy and Nasri left for exactly the same reason.

The lack of intelligence shown on here at times is astounding.

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Originally Posted by Boss

Clichy and Nasri left for exactly the same reason.

The lack of intelligence shown on here at times is astounding.

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I get the feeling we didn't want to keep Clichy. He certainly wouldn't have got into any better teams (it's surprising that Man City wanted him). With that in mind, and considering he did do some good time here (8 years) despite the likes of Real Madrid sniffing around in 2008, I don't think it's on the same level as Nasri. Same with Kolo - we were more than happy to take £16m off Man City for him. I don't think it's fair to assume Clichy was going for the same reasons as Nasri - whatever those reasons are - because there were not many options for Clichy. Nasri put in 3 good months and then fucked off - much similar to Hleb and Flamini. By all accounts, he had Man Utd available and I'm sure more top clubs would've been interested because he is a fantastic talent.

Personally, I wouldn't bother giving Toure or Clichy a good reception. I don't think they did anything extraordinary or unselfish. Similarly I don't think they were selfish and gave back to the club as much as they got. They're on the opposing team and we want to beat them - we won't make them feel unwelcome but we shouldn't make them feel welcome either. That is my view.

I don't have strong feelings against Nasri...he is just your average footballer. He probably didn't have the same attachment to the club that someone like Wilshere had (being involved with the club since 9). I would've hoped that he would have shown more loyalty to Wenger and the club but ultimately he didn't 'force' a move and was within his rights to leave wherever he wanted to. Am I glad that he is failing to make an impact and rotting on the bench at City and pissing away what could've been a glittering career? I'm not not glad.

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Originally Posted by FakeYank

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Taken after hearing he was off to Citeh!

Not sure if I agree Nasri didnt force the move, as he sure as heck did not show any desire to stay either. . , people may say he was withim his rights but his obvious show of contempt nullified anu vote of sympathy. Wenger showed him respect, almost begged him to to stay but was treated in return with the same kind of kiss Judas offered his boss.

At the time I accepted Cesc leaving and was hoping Nas would stick around and pick up the pieces/mantle but in hindsight I neednt have bothered, we dont moss him, need him or want him. . .reaction to him tonight - Nasri. . .who?

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Originally Posted by Boss

Clichy and Nasri left for exactly the same reason.

The lack of intelligence shown on here at times is astounding.

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nah clichy gave us 8 years of 100% effort, always gave his all when he pulled on the shirt, wasnt great towards the end same with kolo. leave with my respect and thanks for the effort they gave us. whenever those two were on the pitch you knew you would get 100% effort. thats all i ask for


nasri did fuck all during his time here, apart from the frew months last year he was average. slated the fans when he left, slated the club. he is a judas cunt. plus he was on verge of moving to united when citeh offered him 180k a week so he went there. he went for money so its correct to label him a money grabbing judas cunt.

Can't say I give much of a fuck about Nasri. His contract was up and fancied a move, it happens. If he's happy warming the bench then good luck to him. He's not worth wasting our energies on, he's not an Ashley Cole.

He's just another two bit modern day footballer. In 10 years we will forget this guy ever graced our club with his presence. Samir who?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

nah clichy gave us 8 years of 100% effort, always gave his all when he pulled on the shirt, wasnt great towards the end same with kolo. leave with my respect and thanks for the effort they gave us. whenever those two were on the pitch you knew you would get 100% effort. thats all i ask for


nasri did fuck all during his time here, apart from the frew months last year he was average. slated the fans when he left, slated the club. he is a judas cunt. plus he was on verge of moving to united when citeh offered him 180k a week so he went there. he went for money so its correct to label him a money grabbing judas cunt.

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Clichy may have been with us for 8 years, but did more in the time he was here then clichy ever did. He also Stalled on a deal when was offered one ad went running to city when he saw the money.

Kolo was just as bad and ade.

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

It makes me smile when people justify players' moves away by saying that they are entitled to take a better offer/go where they feel they are likely to win trophies - as though this is the main issue for debate. Of course players are entitled to do what they like. Its a free country. Are people arguing that Nasri should have stayed at Arsenal because we are more likely to win things than Citeh? I haven't seen a single argument along these lines.

Away from the dry corridors of the department of the bleeding obvious, we are football fans - and passion and emotion apply here. Why should we wish a player well who was given his chance at our club but fucked off at the first opportunity - taking a pop at us fans in the proceess? Just as we admire players who give their all on the pitch, we tend to admire characters who are loyal and principled. They don't have to be - but these players tend rightly to be elevated above the avarage and treated as heroes. Something Nasri will never be.

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Originally Posted by Joker

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

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how many times do you want to be told. nasri was going to united when citeh came in and offered him 180k and went there. now if you want to win stuff where do you go? united or citeh? i know where i would go

and also joker, if citeh win stuff this year, nasri can hardly claimed he helped. all he has done is sit on the bench and count money

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

It makes me smile when people justify players' moves away by saying that they are entitled to take a better offer/go where they feel they are likely to win trophies - as though this is the main issue for debate. Of course players are entitled to do what they like. Its a free country. Are people arguing that Nasri should have stayed at Arsenal because we are more likely to win things than Citeh? I haven't seen a single argument along these lines.

Away from the dry corridors of the department of the bleeding obvious, we are football fans - and passion and emotion apply here. Why should we wish a player well who was given his chance at our club but fucked off at the first opportunity - taking a pop at us fans in the proceess? Just as we admire players who give their all on the pitch, we tend to admire characters who are loyal and principled. They don't have to be - but these players tend rightly to be elevated above the avarage and treated as heroes. Something Nasri will never be.

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Quite right.

It really amazes me that people want to turn the Nasri thing as support for their campaign against the club and it's management.

I don't think there is an Arsenal fan out there who hasn't criticised the club for the way things have gone over the last 4 to 5 years. And certainly, there is a point where the balance between finances and matters on the pitch have NOT been correctly weighed. We all know that. We also know that some of that is beyond our control. See City / Chelsea, I don't need to say any more.

BUT. To say that Adebayor, Nasri, Cesc, Flamini, Clichy etc etc and on and on....and in future (I hope to God not), Walcott, Wilshire, Song etc etc and on and on, the product of OUR club, brought into the limelight by OUR manager, shouldn't knuckle down, back up their posturing with performance, off the back of what we as a club gave them, paid for by US, the fans, AND show a degree of integrity and loyalty....is absurd.

But it is quite funny. Because without our Manager, we wouldn't have had those players in the first place.

It's about money.

We'll never know, but maybe if those players had some loyalty, we would be winning trophies. But what is evident from last year, is that they weren't team players. Because we weren't a team in the last 6 months. We were individuals. With no bottle, and eyes on bigger contracts.

Nasri can fuck the fuck off. Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

and also joker, if citeh win stuff this year, nasri can hardly claimed he helped. all he has done is sit on the bench and count money

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of course he can if he gets a medal it would mean he played enough games which would mean he helped.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Quite right.

It really amazes me that people want to turn the Nasri thing as support for their campaign against the club and it's management.

I don't think there is an Arsenal fan out there who hasn't criticised the club for the way things have gone over the last 4 to 5 years. And certainly, there is a point where the balance between finances and matters on the pitch have NOT been correctly weighed. We all know that. We also know that some of that is beyond our control. See City / Chelsea, I don't need to say any more.

BUT. To say that Adebayor, Nasri, Cesc, Flamini, Clichy etc etc and on and on....and in future (I hope to God not), Walcott, Wilshire, Song etc etc and on and on, the product of OUR club, brought into the limelight by OUR manager, shouldn't knuckle down, back up their posturing with performance, off the back of what we as a club gave them, paid for by US, the fans, AND show a degree of integrity and loyalty....is absurd.

But it is quite funny. Because without our Manager, we wouldn't have had those players in the first place.

It's about money.

We'll never know, but maybe if those players had some loyalty, we would be winning trophies. But what is evident from last year, is that they weren't team players. Because we weren't a team in the last 6 months. We were individuals. With no bottle, and eyes on bigger contracts.

Nasri can fuck the fuck off. Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT.

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could not have put it better myself

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

of course he can if he gets a medal it would mean he played enough games which would mean he helped.

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what happens if just makes ten appearances and it adds up to about two games worth of minutes. he has done fuck all so far, will do fuck all for rest of his time

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

how many times do you want to be told. nasri was going to united when citeh came in and offered him 180k and went there. now if you want to win stuff where do you go? united or citeh? i know where i would go

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1. The 'being offered 180k and rejecting United' bit is all press conjecture, other reports state that United wanted him but weren't willing to stump up 25M for a player in the last year of his contract.

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

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Originally Posted by Boss

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

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thats your argument? which team won the league, got to CL final and fa cup semi? united did, just cos citeh are top doesnt mean they will win the league. we were top at one point last year i think, or at least year before, didnt mean we would ring it. united will qualify for CL, citeh will be in europa. united are proven winners, citeh have one fa cup in about 30 years

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

what happens if just makes ten appearances and it adds up to about two games worth of minutes. he has done fuck all so far, will do fuck all for rest of his time

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He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

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Originally Posted by Boss

1. The 'being offered 180k and rejecting United' bit is all press conjecture, other reports state that United wanted him but weren't willing to stump up 25M for a player in the last year of his contract.

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

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When I had a stadium tour, Charlie George said it was all in place for Nasri to go to Utd till City came in.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

thats your argument? which team won the league, got to CL final and fa cup semi? united did, just cos citeh are top doesnt mean they will win the league. we were top at one point last year i think, or at least year before, didnt mean we would ring it. united will qualify for CL, citeh will be in europa. united are proven winners, citeh have one fa cup in about 30 years

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Past history means nothing given the huge changes that have happened in the last three years. Chelsea hadn't won the league in fifty odd years before they did so, but it would have been foolish to write off their trophy chances in 2004/05 and say players were joining them only for the money.

Citeh had just as good a chance of the league this year as United if not better, don't see how anyone can deny that.

Don't really care about how Nasri does and fairly happy he hasn't reached the heights he did with us but it's tedious in the extreme to read stuff like 'Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT' 30 times in any thread he's mentioned.

Nasri should be showered with tampons tbf, Clichy & Kolo should just be reminded they're only good enough for the CC

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Originally Posted by Syn

I get the feeling we didn't want to keep Clichy. He certainly wouldn't have got into any better teams (it's surprising that Man City wanted him). With that in mind, and considering he did do some good time here (8 years) despite the likes of Real Madrid sniffing around in 2008, I don't think it's on the same level as Nasri. Same with Kolo - we were more than happy to take £16m off Man City for him. I don't think it's fair to assume Clichy was going for the same reasons as Nasri - whatever those reasons are - because there were not many options for Clichy. Nasri put in 3 good months and then fucked off - much similar to Hleb and Flamini. By all accounts, he had Man Utd available and I'm sure more top clubs would've been interested because he is a fantastic talent.

Personally, I wouldn't bother giving Toure or Clichy a good reception. I don't think they did anything extraordinary or unselfish. Similarly I don't think they were selfish and gave back to the club as much as they got. They're on the opposing team and we want to beat them - we won't make them feel unwelcome but we shouldn't make them feel welcome either. That is my view.

I don't have strong feelings against Nasri...he is just your average footballer. He probably didn't have the same attachment to the club that someone like Wilshere had (being involved with the club since 9). I would've hoped that he would have shown more loyalty to Wenger and the club but ultimately he didn't 'force' a move and was within his rights to leave wherever he wanted to. Am I glad that he is failing to make an impact and rotting on the bench at City and pissing away what could've been a glittering career? I'm not not glad.

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Don't really disagree with any of that. My only thought is that if United and Citeh both come in with an offer for you, and they're both as likely to win the league, there's nothing wrong with taking an offer at Citeh at 180k over an offer at United at 90k.

I think in the past you could level accusations at players who went to Citeh to be only in it for the money but it's different now. Clichy going there (guaranteed, he didn't have many options apart from them and Liverpool) instead of staying with us shows this.

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Originally Posted by Boss

He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

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'For the record' three of those were at White Hart Lane. Since then he has only really regularly started in the Champions League, where he has done nothing.

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Originally Posted by Joker

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

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Joker, I swear you are a Citeh fan or a bigger WUM than Cripps!

Is there anything you like about the club?
you call for RvPs departure even though he is the PLs leading scorer
say Wenger must go too, even though he has us in a run of 13 unbeaten games, are you a fool do you think that Wenger will call a halt to the winning if we get in 4th? "Wait lads, better not win the next game cos we dont want to get above ourselves!" Fucking do me a favour
say its better to be at Citeh because theyre going places?

Yes they do have more chance of winning a trophy as they have bought about 99% of all active professional players!
we have to find a way to combat their wealth and by the looks if it we werent wrong to sell Nasri for a profit cos hes doing fuck all for em and we look better without I'm

Shit NQ have a word with this guy!

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Originally Posted by Boss

He's set up a goal every game he's started in the PL (6 assists in 6), which is more than any of our players. For the record.

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In 6-1 smashings against pub teams? You can't seriously think he has made much of an impact? Opta stats also says Aaron Ramsey creates a goalscoring chance every 46 mins - but we're not hailing him as some sort of creative genius. It's clear Nasri is not playing a significant role in the title challenge right now and if he has any pride, being at best a squad player should not be what a player of his ability signed up for. Ollie's being gay with the 'Man Utd's chances of winning trophies > Man City's' but don't be pedantic about the 'fuck all' impact...he really is doing nothing of note.

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Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over

Joker, I swear you are a Citeh fan or a bigger WUM than Cripps!

Is there anything you like about the club?
you call for RvPs departure even though he is the PLs leading scorer
say Wenger must go too, even though he has us in a run of 13 unbeaten games, are you a fool do you think that Wenger will call a halt to the winning if we get in 4th? "Wait lads, better not win the next game cos we dont want to get above ourselves!" Fucking do me a favour
say its better to be at Citeh because theyre going places?

Yes they do have more chance of winning a trophy as they have bought about 99% of all active professional players!
we have to find a way to combat their wealth and by the looks if it we werent wrong to sell Nasri for a profit cos hes doing fuck all for em and we look better without I'm

Shit NQ have a word with this guy!

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

'For the record' three of those were at White Hart Lane. Since then he has only really regularly started in the Champions League, where he has done nothing.

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Fair enough. I agree he's done fuck all relative to his talent, but the season is long and he will get plenty of chances to show his worth. I'm happy he's reached nowhere near his potential because I think he could become a far better player than Silva or Mata.

It boils down to whether players would prefer being a bit part player in a title winning side to a star player in an average team. Don't know anything about Nasri's mindset so can't say anything about that, but would he be receiving this level of hate if he went to United and was playing (as far) below his level? Doubt it.

If someone chucks money at you, you take it. 99% of the people on here would do the same thing.