Arsenal v Man City Carling Cup - Quarter Final Tuesday 29th November 2011 8.00pm SKY SPORTS

[Joker]

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

[IBK]

It makes me smile when people justify players' moves away by saying that they are entitled to take a better offer/go where they feel they are likely to win trophies - as though this is the main issue for debate. Of course players are entitled to do what they like. Its a free country. Are people arguing that Nasri should have stayed at Arsenal because we are more likely to win things than Citeh? I haven't seen a single argument along these lines.

Away from the dry corridors of the department of the bleeding obvious, we are football fans - and passion and emotion apply here. Why should we wish a player well who was given his chance at our club but fucked off at the first opportunity - taking a pop at us fans in the proceess? Just as we admire players who give their all on the pitch, we tend to admire characters who are loyal and principled. They don't have to be - but these players tend rightly to be elevated above the avarage and treated as heroes. Something Nasri will never be.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We're deluding ourselves if we think Nasri only went for the money. City are a club going places, and the chances of winning a major trophy there is much higher than at Arsenal these days, especially with Wenger tacitly admitting that fourth place is the main objective of this season (which chimes nicely with the board's objectives)

And even if Nasri went for the money, so what? He's just like any other footballer really, especially those that don't have any emotional ties with the club.

how many times do you want to be told. nasri was going to united when citeh came in and offered him 180k and went there. now if you want to win stuff where do you go? united or citeh? i know where i would go

[Ollie the Optimist]

and also joker, if citeh win stuff this year, nasri can hardly claimed he helped. all he has done is sit on the bench and count money

[LDG]

It makes me smile when people justify players' moves away by saying that they are entitled to take a better offer/go where they feel they are likely to win trophies - as though this is the main issue for debate. Of course players are entitled to do what they like. Its a free country. Are people arguing that Nasri should have stayed at Arsenal because we are more likely to win things than Citeh? I haven't seen a single argument along these lines.

Away from the dry corridors of the department of the bleeding obvious, we are football fans - and passion and emotion apply here. Why should we wish a player well who was given his chance at our club but fucked off at the first opportunity - taking a pop at us fans in the proceess? Just as we admire players who give their all on the pitch, we tend to admire characters who are loyal and principled. They don't have to be - but these players tend rightly to be elevated above the avarage and treated as heroes. Something Nasri will never be.

Quite right.

It really amazes me that people want to turn the Nasri thing as support for their campaign against the club and it's management.

I don't think there is an Arsenal fan out there who hasn't criticised the club for the way things have gone over the last 4 to 5 years. And certainly, there is a point where the balance between finances and matters on the pitch have NOT been correctly weighed. We all know that. We also know that some of that is beyond our control. See City / Chelsea, I don't need to say any more.

BUT. To say that Adebayor, Nasri, Cesc, Flamini, Clichy etc etc and on and on....and in future (I hope to God not), Walcott, Wilshire, Song etc etc and on and on, the product of OUR club, brought into the limelight by OUR manager, shouldn't knuckle down, back up their posturing with performance, off the back of what we as a club gave them, paid for by US, the fans, AND show a degree of integrity and loyalty....is absurd.

But it is quite funny. Because without our Manager, we wouldn't have had those players in the first place.

It's about money.

We'll never know, but maybe if those players had some loyalty, we would be winning trophies. But what is evident from last year, is that they weren't team players. Because we weren't a team in the last 6 months. We were individuals. With no bottle, and eyes on bigger contracts.

Nasri can fuck the fuck off. Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

and also joker, if citeh win stuff this year, nasri can hardly claimed he helped. all he has done is sit on the bench and count money

of course he can if he gets a medal it would mean he played enough games which would mean he helped.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Quite right.

It really amazes me that people want to turn the Nasri thing as support for their campaign against the club and it's management.

I don't think there is an Arsenal fan out there who hasn't criticised the club for the way things have gone over the last 4 to 5 years. And certainly, there is a point where the balance between finances and matters on the pitch have NOT been correctly weighed. We all know that. We also know that some of that is beyond our control. See City / Chelsea, I don't need to say any more.

BUT. To say that Adebayor, Nasri, Cesc, Flamini, Clichy etc etc and on and on....and in future (I hope to God not), Walcott, Wilshire, Song etc etc and on and on, the product of OUR club, brought into the limelight by OUR manager, shouldn't knuckle down, back up their posturing with performance, off the back of what we as a club gave them, paid for by US, the fans, AND show a degree of integrity and loyalty....is absurd.

But it is quite funny. Because without our Manager, we wouldn't have had those players in the first place.

It's about money.

We'll never know, but maybe if those players had some loyalty, we would be winning trophies. But what is evident from last year, is that they weren't team players. Because we weren't a team in the last 6 months. We were individuals. With no bottle, and eyes on bigger contracts.

Nasri can fuck the fuck off. Money grabbing filthy lesbian whorebag CUNT.

could not have put it better myself

[Ollie the Optimist]

of course he can if he gets a medal it would mean he played enough games which would mean he helped.

what happens if just makes ten appearances and it adds up to about two games worth of minutes. he has done fuck all so far, will do fuck all for rest of his time

[Boss]

how many times do you want to be told. nasri was going to united when citeh came in and offered him 180k and went there. now if you want to win stuff where do you go? united or citeh? i know where i would go

1. The 'being offered 180k and rejecting United' bit is all press conjecture, other reports state that United wanted him but weren't willing to stump up 25M for a player in the last year of his contract.

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

[Ollie the Optimist]

2. If you want to win stuff, United or Citeh, hmm... who's top of the table?

thats your argument? which team won the league, got to CL final and fa cup semi? united did, just cos citeh are top doesnt mean they will win the league. we were top at one point last year i think, or at least year before, didnt mean we would ring it. united will qualify for CL, citeh will be in europa. united are proven winners, citeh have one fa cup in about 30 years